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Help - Fantasy Thief for Genesis 3 Female(s)
I want to know if you can just use the hooded cloak? I'd rather buy this product than just the hooded cloak. Same price ($2.50) but more clothing comes with.
Hooded Cloak only product
Are you familiar with the expression "penny wise and pound foolish"?
The cloak in Fantasy Thief is just "a" hooded cloak. The stand-alone hooded cloak is "The" hooded cloak. It has versions for every figure in the last ten years, from Genesis 3 (male and female) all the way back to G2, Genesis, Victoria/Michale/Stephanie 4, and Victoria/Michael/Stephanie/blah/blah 3. And it has over twice as many morphs as the Fantasy Thief cloak. But wait, there's more...
Trumpets blare...
They all take the same textures, and there's well over 50 of those available, some of which are currently on sale for as low as $0.60. (Not to mention some great free morphs on ShareCG).
Here's a few of my faves:
https://www.daz3d.com/lace-embers-reflections-in-white
https://www.daz3d.com/mrs-claus
https://www.daz3d.com/princess-of-autumn
https://www.daz3d.com/princess-of-darkness
https://www.daz3d.com/princess-of-india-2
https://www.daz3d.com/princess-of-china-2
https://www.daz3d.com/princess-of-eire-2
Some of those are just textures for the cloak, others are complete sets that also texture the morphing fantasy dress (another of those great five-generation items with versions from V3 to Genesis 3) and even the morphing mask (again, with versions from V3 to G3)
Here's a few others that I own and love:
https://www.daz3d.com/royal-regency
https://www.daz3d.com/threads-of-the-realm-for-hooded-cloak
https://www.daz3d.com/full-circle-for-hooded-cloak
Skin Builder 3 Merchant Resource for Genesis 3 Female (Commercial)I cannot use brows or eyes, it simply won't add it to the character, and it's been like that ever since I bought it. I don't use optimisers btw.
EDIT: It works when I build the skin for it, but it doesn't work without building the skin even though options such as color and freckles work on existing skins. Not sure if it's supposed to be that way or not.@jevgenijevna, I agree with Cybersox13 about the eyes. I've noticed issues with both the eyes and the nails, and when looking at the UVs via the Surfaces->Editor, I found the eyes did have the Victoria 7 UVs and the nails had UVs from a nail addon product. When I changed those to the "Base Female," everything started working again.
I also know the issue with the brows. It is a problem for all the scripts that affect the face materials: Blush, Shadows, Liners, and Lips in the Makeup section, as well as Brows. Your character is missing an image in the Glossy Layered Weigth parameter for the face zones: Ears, Eye Socket, Face and Lips. You can skip the first two, but SB3 needs to modify the image to apply the makeup and/or brows. When you build the skin via SB3, that parameter includes a specular map for the image. Here's how to solve that problem:
Before opening SB3 for any Iray G3F, verify the specular map is included in the Glossy Layered Weight parameter for Face and Lips, and add if it's not already there. (You may need to bump up the value to 1, to compensate for the image map. The Base Female for G3F was set to .25 by the conversion...)Hope this helps.
17,000 Store Items Gone? Wow.Some of the products which are no longer in the store were for Posette and Dork. How many forum members will admit they have never used Posette and Dork because they are so old? (Posette and Dork are old I mean, not the forum members)
DAZ never sold P4Woman/P4Man ("Posette/Dork"). It's a blurry piece of history because:
- Circa 1998, Zygote did briefly sell the P4Woman/Man figures (in a number of formats, IIRC) before DAZ was created, concurrent with them being distributed in Poser 4. At this time Zygote was more like TurboSquid, selling a wide variety of content over a variety of formats for different applications. They also sold software including Poser 4 which made sense since they had developed most of its bundled content over the years.
- About a year later 2 Zygote staffers (Dan Farr and Christopher Creek) put together higher resolution, Poser-exclusive figure/accessory content Victoria 1/Michael 1. Good product, great sales…but bad timing. Zygote chose to specialize, repositioning itself vertically as a high-end anatomical model service firm directly to the medical field (and Hollywood), abandoning the consumer market altogether (they've since rethought that last part).
- Dan and Chris bought out their exclusive Poser content to form DAZ, choosing wisely to target their own higher resolution figures and let other stores continue to service P4. The only exception I can recall are a few early V/M hair models that included some P4 figure fits.
I did say for them, not that Daz (as Daz) ever sold them
We have had this convo in the forums before.
https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/comment/1004191/#Comment_1004191IG Iray Essentials QuestionI bought it the day it was released, and was most disappointed to learn that it doesn't. I also didn't like the muted effect it applied to V7's makeup. I haven't bothered with it since, choosing instead to use whatever mats the character sets I buy come with.
Ah thats unfortunate. Will see about getting a refund and might as well use it to buy a decent character that uses Victoria 7. Do you know of any other identical products such as this that includes anatomical elements?
17,000 Store Items Gone? Wow.Some of the products which are no longer in the store were for Posette and Dork. How many forum members will admit they have never used Posette and Dork because they are so old? (Posette and Dork are old I mean, not the forum members)
DAZ never sold P4Woman/P4Man ("Posette/Dork"). It's a blurry piece of history because:
- Circa 1998, Zygote did briefly sell the P4Woman/Man figures (in a number of formats, IIRC) before DAZ was created, concurrent with them being distributed in Poser 4. At this time Zygote was more like TurboSquid, selling a wide variety of content over a variety of formats for different applications. They also sold software including Poser 4 which made sense since they had developed most of its bundled content over the years.
- About a year later 2 Zygote staffers (Dan Farr and Christopher Creek) put together higher resolution, Poser-exclusive figure/accessory content Victoria 1/Michael 1. Good product, great sales…but bad timing. Zygote chose to specialize, repositioning itself vertically as a high-end anatomical model service firm directly to the medical field (and Hollywood), abandoning the consumer market altogether (they've since rethought that last part).
- Dan and Chris bought out their exclusive Poser content to form DAZ, choosing wisely to target their own higher resolution figures and let other stores continue to service P4. The only exception I can recall are a few early V/M hair models that included some P4 figure fits.
IG Iray Essentials Questionhttps://www.daz3d.com/ig-iray-essentials-genesis-3-female-victoria-7
Does this product contain anatomical element mats to go along with the new iray mats it gives? Cannot seem to find it anywhere unless I have been applying the materials wrong. My Victoria 7 figures are stuck with the original anatomical element mats when applying this iray product to them.
Displacement for Genesis 3 MalesYou are going to have to be more specific about what you want, any surface on any object can have displacement.
This except for Males
Ultra Detailed Displacement Maps for Victoria 7
https://www.daz3d.com/ultra-detailed-displacement-maps-for-victoria-7
Genesis 4 wishlist!Thursday is June first, hopefully we will have a new Victoria 8, Genesis 4 and Michael 8 next month!!!!
Novica & Forum Members Tips & Product Reviews Pt 8Mynx for Victoria 7 Exo Suit For Genesis 3 Female(s) Heath Hair for Genesis 3 Male(s) & Female(s)
Chace Hair for Genesis 3 Female(s) and Genesis 2 Female(s) Dandelion Clothes for Genesis 3 Female(s) Dove Hair for Genesis 3 Female(s)
Continuing with GypsyAngel.
Mynx can have many different looks. From space gal to Dandelion imp, she's got it covered. FYI, Dove Hair is 66% off right now, and it's a DO if you haven't used your monthly code. It would only be 98 cents! It's got nice morphs.
Heath Hair needs work at the temples, the skull cap shows too much. Lowering the hairline just makes it worse. I did NOT do any postwork so you could take a look at it. I like it as a short hairstyle, and I did elongate the sides a bit, it goes shorter by default and looks good. Using Slosh's UHT hair shaders.
I think the wounds look good, and I like the bruising on her cheek. Also, the dirt looks good.
She has a lot of different makeups, many with white/gray faces and black warrior-type markings. I went with dainty. I love the depth/glitter of the decal- doesn't look painted on at all.
Novica & Forum Members Tips & Product Reviews Pt 8I was still playing catch up with this thread after taking most of the last month off to write. Lots of great pictures. I was going to post my Sawyer image but then Novica already linked it so here is a render using a GypsyAngel fellow that I did last year. I like how it turned out considering it was my first render with Terradome 3. The handsome fellow is Merrick.
This handsome fellow is Ragnar without the scar on his face. I think he's cute. Such an excellent morph GypsyAngel made there. :)
I know I've rendered a few of the girls, too, but I'll be darned if I can find them. They are probably on the old hard drive when I had the big computer crash last year. I still haven't transferred all of my scene files and renders from that yet. I have all but 15 GypsyAngel's products. I really like her characters. I haven't managed to pick up Brahm and Ronan, yet, but they are definitely going to find a home in my library as soon as possible. Eventually, I'll get everyone. I really like how Elish and Roxanne look, too.
I'll have to see what I can do about rendering some of the girls in my library this week.
Oh, I thought I'd tell what I'm using for my desktop backgrounds. On my main setup in Linux, I'm using one of my latest renders. I just like how it turned out. You can see it in my gallery here. And, on the little drive when I'm in Windows because I still haven't managed to get everything working in Linux quite yet, I have this one set as my desktop background. It was a 3Delight experiment and I like how it turned out, too. I don't get a whole lot of good renders out of 3Delight, yet, and I love it when I get a great one.
JamesJAB's Art Studio Full of Renders and Incomplete Projects!Guess since I've been a member since 2003 and now 17 years later renders take a matter of minutes instead of hours.....
This space is open for critiques and suggestions. Tell me what you like and tell me what you don't like, and feel free to make suggestions for render, camera, light, and shader settings.
I've been playing with Daz3D models since before they where Daz3D.... (Millie officially named Victoria from a company called Zygote) Back when Poser was little more that a digital version of those poseable wooden figures artists have on their desk.
But enough giving people hints about my age.
Onward to the renders and work in progress models.
Novica & Forum Members Tips & Product Reviews Pt 8I forgot about these- they're in 3Delight. I'd only been using DAZ for a couple of months when I made them. I really didn't know what the heck I was doing. Here's Ragnar for Gianni 7 as "JJ" in my Calpernica series. Eventually these characters will be on my book covers as I slowly get them done.
And here's Roxanne for V7 as "Jenny" in the same series: Firestation Fun
Novica & Forum Members Tips & Product Reviews Pt 8Not sure how many of Gypsyangel's chars I have, but I don't have nearly enough lol , working on buying her whole catalog ..... I do have Brahm and Maret.
Brahm for Genesis 3 male first :
And Maret for Victoria 7 :
Edit to add links to the storepages
Legal QuestionYou can trademark common words used for a specific business or service. You can't trademark words for general use. An example of a windows trademark - http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4805:3a00ao.6.82 . The "goods and services" label lists what the trademark can be used for. I didn't see a trademark for Victoria. But if you credit DAZ or any other artist I'm sure they won't mind. It might generate more sales for them.
Preview - First Look at Avalon Hair for Genesis 3 Male (& Female)Okay, back again. The problem I was having was in the rigging; it didn't manifest until I tried to "fit to" Victoria 7. The 7cm displacement was essentially due to a slight head height difference between G3M and G3F present in the rigging. When I tried to transfer the rigging from my original model to the G3F version, it shifted the hair from the modeled position to the G3M head position. Which meant that I had to re-rig from scratch. I'll also have to make adjustments to the morphs created for the G3M version, when I transfer them, next.
Until then, here's the rigged female version:
missing geometry filesOkay, there is no real problem, i have imported the geometry files directly as .obj, and parented them to the figure's head. They work fine. I'm not actually using V4 by the way, i'm using Genesis 2 Female, and it works very well. Poor Victoria, i so rarely use her, sigh.
Legal QuestionCharacter names CAN be trademarked for certain markets. It does not mean they can't be used....it means they can't be used for "trade". Ie. both DC and Marvel own characters called "Captain Marvel". Both can use their character how they want, in comics movies etc. But Marvel owns the trademark, so only they can have a comic book called "Captain Marvel". This is why they have a movie coming out called "Captain Marvel" and DC has one called "Shazam".
Character names CAN be copyrighted, but it's not easy to do, invlovling three tests of name, concept and appearance. Want to write a story about a guy named Spider Man who wears a red suit and fights crime? You're out of luck. Want to write a story about a guy named Spider Man who wears tweed and collects spiders? Go for it.
The Daz character names are NOT trademarked. A trademark is not an automatic thing like a copyright. You actually have to claim it, signified by using ™ . That signifies that you are claiming the trademark as your trade id... in your case, a title like THE ADVENTURES OF XIN XIN!. Daz has not asserted that claim...look at the bottom of this page..they're claiming "Daz"..likely have it for other software products. The very fact that other stores sell things listed as "for Victoria" tell you that either they don't have the trademark, or they're not defending it, and thus it's voided.
All clear? :)
Victoria 4 Wet Maps, how to make effect more pronouncedI'm attempting to use "Victoria 4 Wet Maps" ( https://www.daz3d.com/victoria-4-wet-maps , on Genesis1), however as the render requires a full scene and isn't zoomed in, I can barely see any detail. Suggestions for making the effect more visible?
Legal Question"I am making a short animation and using Victoria (No changes at
all), can I call her Victoria or do I have to actually change her name?"
No
..." if you are not doing content-parody I would think it a bad idea to
use the existing names anyway - but as far as I know yes the Victoria
and Michael names at least are trademarks."
Hi this is not true:"It is not illegal for the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office to register a
person's name as part of a trademark, but it only grants this level of
protection to names that are widely used in commerce or are unique.
Trademarks are granted to protect established brand names from
inferior competition. In most cases, a person can't trademark his name,
but other protections can help business owners protect the use of their
name if it is used in association with business."
A CG Character named Victoria cannot be legally trademarked unless.. perhaps
the trademarked name is: "The Daz3D model called Victoria 1,2,3,4,5,6,7 created by Daz inc."Such a name Clearly Associates that particular "Victoria" with Daz inc.
Micheal and Vicky Alone without such a stated association with Daz inc. are articles of common speech (proper nouns) and their usage cannot be restricted by trademark or patent.
Legal Question3D is not fine as long as the emshcannot be extracted under the basic EULA - to distribute anything that contains mesh you need a game developer License or Licenses to cover the content used, and there are limits on what can be done. As for names, if you are not doing content-parody I would think it a bad idea to use the existing names anyway - but as far as I know yes the Victoria and Michael names at least are trademarks.

























