And it's on to Round II!

The pull (using the traditional method this time, referencing my spreadsheet):

6705 - I13 Steakhouse Environment
6677 - Detective Bundle
4384 - Mandy (!?)
172 - Quickening Decay for Parkside Head Interior

And if you think I'm going to call this an improvement..., you are mistaken.

Also used:
Orestes Iray HDRI Skydomes Vol 2 - Dreadful Clouds
Iray Ghost Light Kit by Kindred Arts (and a great-big 'Two-Thumbs-Up!', both for the product, and for the help Kindred Arts provided in getting it to work!  So I guess that would be four thumbs, right?)
Kozaburo Short Hair Evolution for Victoria 3 (From before you were born, remember, kids?)
Italian Boots for Victoria 3
DressCoat Italia for Victoria 3
Elliot for Genesis 3 Male
Mathew Hair
Leather Style Outfit for Genesis 3 Male
Classic Casual for Genesis 3 Male
Carrie for Genesis 3 Female
Flirty Hair
I13 Steakhouse Server outfit for Genesis 3 Female

Compositing and postwork in GIMP 2.8

And now for the liner notes.  Three items:
1) Every so often, I need a not-so-subtle reminder of just how much of a pain in the never-mind-precisely-where Victoria 3 was to work with, compared to her more recent incarnations; karma tends to be really diligent and conscientious in that regard.  Apparently, this pull was one of those reminders;

2) I may have played a bit "fast-and-loose" with the Steakhouse Environment: I used just enough furniture to make it identifiable, and one of the server poses; I also threw in the Steakhouse Server outfit (it was, after all, part of the bundle).  I just hope it's a pardonable sin;

3) And finally, I am always reluctant to play the "mawkish sentimentality" card in my RRRR renders (I've only done it once before, as I recall), but this one just didn't seem to want to go in any other direction.  So I let it.  I certainly don't expect it to get any votes for 'Funniest'.  (And if it does, well..., you people are just..., sick!)

Anyway, for what it's worth....

TAG: obanion#02

Title: Echoes of Key Largo ("We had it all, just like Bogie and Bacall....")
It isn't so much that the memories keep coming back, it's that they never really go away....

I'm waiting to use my Victoria 4 / Michael 4 content on Genesis 8.  I would also love an autofit between G8F and G8M.

Those lovely morphing eyebrows are only for G8F and I would love to use them on G8M.  Of course, I would purchase morphs for G8M's eyebrows if someone is willing to make them.

There will be a male Super Natural Brows along soon, with more masculine styles. 

As to the wear them all, I don't know if that's in the works, but in the meantime, you could make your own V4/M4 clones. If you have them for Genesis 3, I expect you could transfer them using Singular Blues morph transfer script. 

REDZ! You are awesome. Please make some super-bushy eyebrows for guys. :)

And at least one that isn't straight, please.

I'm waiting to use my Victoria 4 / Michael 4 content on Genesis 8.  I would also love an autofit between G8F and G8M.

Those lovely morphing eyebrows are only for G8F and I would love to use them on G8M.  Of course, I would purchase morphs for G8M's eyebrows if someone is willing to make them.

There will be a male Super Natural Brows along soon, with more masculine styles. 

As to the wear them all, I don't know if that's in the works, but in the meantime, you could make your own V4/M4 clones. If you have them for Genesis 3, I expect you could transfer them using Singular Blues morph transfer script. 

REDZ! You are awesome. Please make some super-bushy eyebrows for guys. :)

Transfer Utility is for weight-mapped figures, not parametric figures like Victoria 4 - that's the problem with starting a new thread, when replying we didn't have the context from your previous threads. For a parametric figure, in DS or Poser, you do need the OBJ grouped.

Hi @ jonsea31gsn_008b1b42a1

I see you getting closer now with the Trasfer Utility but the Source should be "Victoria 4.2" and the Target should be "Daphne Dress_OBJ3".

Try it the other way around and you should see that the Weight Maps option is no longer been greyed out.

With Trasfer Utility you don't transfer the dress to the figure but the morphs (all shaping options of the figure) and weightmaps (how the figure bends) to the dress.

For more details see Basic Rigging with the Transfer Utility.

Under General Options I would only select "Weight Maps", "Face Groups" (only if you didn't found a way to create them by your own by now) and "Morph Targets" (there are extended options that are self-explanatory I hope).

Keep in mind the dress should allready fit the shape of the figure the ideal would be skintight so you get better results with Trasfer Utility.

Zeppelin & Wyvern

Clean lines.  Creative background.  Very nice.

Rather than ask, I'll assume that you are using a filter(s) that I don't own yet.

 

Thanks UB

Details - Victoria 4.2, Vickys clothes - https://www.daz3d.com/b25-steam-punk-aviator-v4

Wyvern - https://www.daz3d.com/wyverdreki-the-wyvern

Heavenly Zeppelin by 1971s from Renderosity

Background & lights by Tim Payne - https://www.daz3d.com/carrara-skies-volume-2 https://www.daz3d.com/carrara-skies-lightdomes-2

Carrara render postworked with Topaz Adjust for colour correction, Fotosketcher Oil Painting 6 filter as base, Filter Forge Old Book Illustrator filter overlaid at 40 % transperancy, and finally Rons Vintage Backgrounds https://www.daz3d.com/ron-s-vintage-backgrounds-and-overlays at 50% transparency but multiplied instead of overlaid.

Much appreciated!  But I really need to stop asking.  I only hope that you are logging in your settings somewhere.  Interesting styles that you are developing.

Helen for Victoria 4 on Genesis 8:

1. Load V4 clothing to G1

2. Save as a Wearable Preset

3. Load the Wearable Preset to G8

I think the Transfer Utility is a nice idea.  But I do have one problem: the scene item is supposed to be Daphne Dress_OBJ3, but the target item is supposed to have Victoria 4.2 as an option.  Instead it has the same dress or none as options.  Also, the Weight Maps check box is disabled.

What would I have to do in order to choose the target item as Victoria 4.2?  What items should I select as displayed in this image?

I'm waiting to use my Victoria 4 / Michael 4 content on Genesis 8.  I would also love an autofit between G8F and G8M.

Those lovely morphing eyebrows are only for G8F and I would love to use them on G8M.  Of course, I would purchase morphs for G8M's eyebrows if someone is willing to make them.

There will be a male Super Natural Brows along soon, with more masculine styles. 

As to the wear them all, I don't know if that's in the works, but in the meantime, you could make your own V4/M4 clones. If you have them for Genesis 3, I expect you could transfer them using Singular Blues morph transfer script. 

I'm waiting to use my Victoria 4 / Michael 4 content on Genesis 8.  I would also love an autofit between G8F and G8M.

Those lovely morphing eyebrows are only for G8F and I would love to use them on G8M.  Of course, I would purchase morphs for G8M's eyebrows if someone is willing to make them.

one-click solution that allows you to quickly add a racy, lacy bodysuit to any of your favorite Genesis 3 Female or Victoria 7 characters

The "requirement" description is often not to be trusted, for some reason it is often wrong.

 

Understood.  Nonetheless, the new version is not a repaired version i.e... something didn't work properly and is now patched; it is a version with a new functionality i.e. iRay.  You have the product already and sound happy enough that you use it.  It is reasonable to ask you to pay for added functionality since you are already getting value from the product.  It is not defective.  In your analogy, Adobe Photoshop or other software don't charge for changes within a single version (going from version 5.1 to 5.3 which patch functionality) but do charge from going from 5.0 to 6.0 when new features are added.  Moreover, you have the option of converting the existing product you have to iRay which is patient/tedious but technically easy to do if you have the time and don't want to spend the money.  If the autoconversion when you render isn't too odious, that is what I would do.  I have been shopping here from before Michael and Victoria 10 in the days of Posette and if they produced a version of Michael or Victoria 1 that had uptodate dual lobe iRay textures, I would expect to pay for it because I have had decades of ownership and use of the product.  I do understand you are not asking for a free product but the vendor has sold you an honest product that isn't broken.

My whole point is that the only change is an iray shader update, so it is unreasonable to pay for this item a second time when either a free update or a discounted price is a viable option. As we all know the way some items are UV mapped trying to convert shaders can be a dificult or for some near insurmountable process. Not everyone has the same level of experiance.

 

They could do what Jack Tomlin does, and release it as an iray upgrade for a few bucks. Seems to work for him.

I wouldn't be opposed to a deal like that, I just don't want to pay for this item a second time for just an upgrade in shaders. 

I believe I may have found why the INJ files aren't working. Comparing my INJ files with those of a purchased character, the Deltas are missing in my file.

Mine looks like this:
// --- Delta Includes ---
    // FBMDefinition is undefined
    // PBMNeckThickness is undefined

etc etc

Whereas the .pz2 file that I'm comparing it with looks like this:

// --- Delta Includes ---
    readScript ":Runtime:libraries:!DAZ:Victoria 4:Deltas:Morphs++:InjDeltas.PHMFaceHeart.pz2"
    readScript ":Runtime:libraries:!DAZ:Victoria 4:Deltas:Morphs++:InjDeltas.PHMFaceLong.pz2"

etc etc

Why? Why does mine not recognise the Deltas when I have followed the PDF tutorial I have for adding V4 and M4 to the INJection Pose Builder library? Do I have to manually add the address of the Deltas?

New item listing Stephanie 8 in supported shapes:
Goth Outfit for Genesis 8 Female(s)
I wonder if this is Stephanie 8 standing next to Josie in one of the promo renders

Here is the Goth Outfit with the Stephanie 8 body shape dialed in.

I'm hoping not, because it looks like another Thorne character. Nothing against Thorne, but I'm just not into the highly stylized look.

Laurie

Same. I want a Stephanie more in line with Victoria except girl next door.

I wasn't really planning on investing in this generation. Didn't care for Victoria but got Olympia to get the other Olympias. Michael was okay but didn't like his bundles and already owned the previous base figures.

But I'm tempted to get the Stephanie 8 pro bundle. (Loved her S5 pro bundle, it's my most used one. I only have her S6 starter bundle, not too fond of her S6 skin but love her shape.)

I also would like Aiko 8, Lilith 8, Mei Lin 8, Darius 8, Hiro 8, and Freak 8. Mostly for the pro bundle discount. Hopefully they'll all look nice, if they're made/released.

Sexy Skinz - Lace Bodysuits for Genesis 3 Female(s) lists Victoria 7 as a required product. Does anyone know if V7 is actually necessary?

Thanks!

Zeppelin & Wyvern

Clean lines.  Creative background.  Very nice.

Rather than ask, I'll assume that you are using a filter(s) that I don't own yet.

 

Thanks UB

Details - Victoria 4.2, Vickys clothes - https://www.daz3d.com/b25-steam-punk-aviator-v4

Wyvern - https://www.daz3d.com/wyverdreki-the-wyvern

Heavenly Zeppelin by 1971s from Renderosity

Background & lights by Tim Payne - https://www.daz3d.com/carrara-skies-volume-2 https://www.daz3d.com/carrara-skies-lightdomes-2

Carrara render postworked with Topaz Adjust for colour correction, Fotosketcher Oil Painting 6 filter as base, Filter Forge Old Book Illustrator filter overlaid at 40 % transperancy, and finally Rons Vintage Backgrounds https://www.daz3d.com/ron-s-vintage-backgrounds-and-overlays at 50% transparency but multiplied instead of overlaid.

Adrienne for Victoria 6 has no HD on/off slider? Other HD characters I have have this option. Is there a way to turn it off on this particular model? Render times differ drastically(using 3delight).I lowered Render SubD to 1 and still no change. I load Lilith 6,T pose,no hair,no clothes,simple lighting,hit render......bam..2 minutes and done. Load Olympia 6, same settings and poof....2 minutes. Load Adrienne,hit render and poof.....pop....um...pow? 37 minutes. Does anyone have this character and if so, is there an option to turn off HD?

 

Understood.  Nonetheless, the new version is not a repaired version i.e... something didn't work properly and is now patched; it is a version with a new functionality i.e. iRay.  You have the product already and sound happy enough that you use it.  It is reasonable to ask you to pay for added functionality since you are already getting value from the product.  It is not defective.  In your analogy, Adobe Photoshop or other software don't charge for changes within a single version (going from version 5.1 to 5.3 which patch functionality) but do charge from going from 5.0 to 6.0 when new features are added.  Moreover, you have the option of converting the existing product you have to iRay which is patient/tedious but technically easy to do if you have the time and don't want to spend the money.  If the autoconversion when you render isn't too odious, that is what I would do.  I have been shopping here from before Michael and Victoria 10 in the days of Posette and if they produced a version of Michael or Victoria 1 that had uptodate dual lobe iRay textures, I would expect to pay for it because I have had decades of ownership and use of the product.  I do understand you are not asking for a free product but the vendor has sold you an honest product that isn't broken.

My whole point is that the only change is an iray shader update, so it is unreasonable to pay for this item a second time when either a free update or a discounted price is a viable option. As we all know the way some items are UV mapped trying to convert shaders can be a dificult or for some near insurmountable process. Not everyone has the same level of experiance.

 

They could do what Jack Tomlin does, and release it as an iray upgrade for a few bucks. Seems to work for him.

 

Understood.  Nonetheless, the new version is not a repaired version i.e... something didn't work properly and is now patched; it is a version with a new functionality i.e. iRay.  You have the product already and sound happy enough that you use it.  It is reasonable to ask you to pay for added functionality since you are already getting value from the product.  It is not defective.  In your analogy, Adobe Photoshop or other software don't charge for changes within a single version (going from version 5.1 to 5.3 which patch functionality) but do charge from going from 5.0 to 6.0 when new features are added.  Moreover, you have the option of converting the existing product you have to iRay which is patient/tedious but technically easy to do if you have the time and don't want to spend the money.  If the autoconversion when you render isn't too odious, that is what I would do.  I have been shopping here from before Michael and Victoria 10 in the days of Posette and if they produced a version of Michael or Victoria 1 that had uptodate dual lobe iRay textures, I would expect to pay for it because I have had decades of ownership and use of the product.  I do understand you are not asking for a free product but the vendor has sold you an honest product that isn't broken.

My whole point is that the only change is an iray shader update, so it is unreasonable to pay for this item a second time when either a free update or a discounted price is a viable option. As we all know the way some items are UV mapped trying to convert shaders can be a dificult or for some near insurmountable process. Not everyone has the same level of experiance.