Hi there, Have installed Daz Blender bridge but there seems to be no evidence of it in Daz. There is no scipts tab or any reference to blender in the file menu although Daz central is giving me the option of uninstalling it. Also I'm finding Install manager very difficult to use . Have i done something wrong I wonder.

Is DazCentral outdated now ?

Download Daz Studio for FREE when you download Daz Central

But the link redirects to DIM

https://www.daz3d.com/get_studio -> https://www.daz3d.com/install-manager-info

Havos said:

PerttiA said:

And... If one is using DAZ Central, Daz Install Manager (DIM) or manual installation, one should never log in to Daz Studio.

I disagree with that. I only use DIM, but logging in using Daz Studio every now and again will fetch the latest metadata.

Another major advantage is that should you use a file from a product not yet installed, then DS will prompt you with the name of the missing product, rather than just the names of the files it can not find. I will then install that product via DIM (not connect as prompted) and then the asset will load as required.

Yeah, but that requires that one knows what one is doing, which usually is not the case with users that are not familiar with inner workings of DS.

The default installation and start-up procedure for DS is prone to get new users in trouble, or at least wasting storage space with installing everything twice. 

PerttiA said:

And... If one is using DAZ Central, Daz Install Manager (DIM) or manual installation, one should never log in to Daz Studio.

I disagree with that. I only use DIM, but logging in using Daz Studio every now and again will fetch the latest metadata.

Another major advantage is that should you use a file from a product not yet installed, then DS will prompt you with the name of the missing product, rather than just the names of the files it can not find. I will then install that product via DIM (not connect as prompted) and then the asset will load as required.

And... If one is using DAZ Central, Daz Install Manager (DIM) or manual installation, one should never log in to Daz Studio.

You shouldn't use DAZ Central and DIM both. One or the other, preferably DIM. At least, that's what I've been told.

I myself had to reinstall DAZ a few months ago and ended up uninstalling onedrive because it was messing with stuff.

Richard Haseltine said:

They do communicate, but if a product has been installed through DIM (or Daz Central) it is still, correctly, shown as cavailable for a Connect install.  If you don't want to use DS to install then don't have it go online and it won't know about newer products.

Ah, I see what you mean. Still, I feel like that's something the Connect and DIM could do a bit better; if a product is installed through one method, disable the means to install it a second time through the other method. Or at perhaps include some kind of toggle option that does that.

Richard Haseltine said:

Did you try right-click>Refresh on the top-level container in the pane?

I did, and no dice. Cave Ogre still wouldn't show up.

 Richard Haseltine said:

That sounds as if they had been installed through DS.

But that's the weird thing - they weren't! I built a new PC last year and did a clean install of all my Daz products through DIM. I only started downloading some products through DS/Connect recently, and none of the West Part series products were among those.

Richard Haseltine said:

Things that are not installed at all will have a grey thumbnail.

Well, that's one method I suppose. But trawling through 4000+ products in my Smart Content looking for the odd greyed-out thumnail isn't exactly enticing,

Richard Haseltine said:

That's User data, which uninstalling will not remove. You can remove it by right-click menu, then replace the emtadata by letting DS go online or reinstalling the product through DIM/Daz Central

But I've uninstalled the products through DIM (I'm sorry, but I'm not touching Daz Central with a barge pole), reinstalled them, and still no dice. Tried that method you mentioned, and they've at least moved out of the "Available" tab. I had to click "Work Offline" first, then right-click and update their metadata, at which point Das logged me back in, and redownloaded/updated the products in quetion.

I'm sorry if I sound like I'm being bitchy, I honestly don't mean to. It's just that when I set up Daz on this new PC I was extremely careful not to mess up my directories or installation paths, and I've tried to keep things as well organised and tidy as I can. Then weird stuff like this happens seemingly at random, and it gets frustrating.

Whiskeyjack said:

Richard Haseltine said:

If it has the downloadable icon and Install in the right-click menu then that is fine, it means 9as long as the thumbnail is coloured) and the DIM version is being seen and used. You can use whichever method you like (but there is no point in using more than one for any given product, and you need to be aware that many script-based products are not written in a way that work when installed through DS). The doubled-up products, however, are very odd.

So, the option to install products with Daz Connect, even if they’re already installed through DIM, is normal behaviour? Well, I'm glad nothing is screwed up that might require a fresh install of Daz, but it seems like a bizarre oversight if DIM and Daz Connect don’t communicate with each other about which products are installed and which aren’t.

They do communicate, but if a product has been installed through DIM (or Daz Central) it is still, correctly, shown as cavailable for a Connect install.  If you don't want to use DS to install then don't have it go online and it won't know about newer products.

That still leaves the question of why DIM is being so wonky when it comes to installing and uninstalling some products however. As I mentioned, I was able to install the Cave Ogre product I’d just bought through DIM with no issue, and I was able to uninstall it immediately afterward with no problem either. But when I tried to reinstall it through DIM again straight away, it wasn’t showing up in Daz, even though DIM was listing it as installed. But I could hop over to the “Available” tab in Smart Content and find it ready to download through Daz Connect.

Did you try right-click>Refresh on the top-level container in the pane?

That’s not the only product either; I was uninstalling a bunch of older products I don’t use recently, including all of the “West Park” series by Jack Tomalin. I uninstalled every “West Park” product through DIM, yet they all remained installed in Daz when I loaded it up immediately afterward. In the end, I had to manually delete the content folders within Smart Content, and manually delete each folder within my directories to get rid of them. They’re all showing up in my “Available” tab in Smart Content now too.

That sounds as if they had been installed through DS.

Honestly, I’m very tempted to just stop using DIM entirely and just install everything through Daz Connect from now on, because DIM seems to be getting very unreliable at even installing and uninstalling content. However, that then leaves the problem of how do I go about finding and installing products that can’t be installed through Daz Connect, such as the scripts you mentioned? If Dim would at least communicate with Daz Connect and filter out the products that already installed with Daz Connect, that’d at least be something.

Things thata re not installed at all will have a grey thumbnail.

As for the duplicate products; I had the same problem with the same products a year or two ago, and even after a fresh install of Daz with all the default settings and installation paths on a brand new, blank PC, it’s still happening. So, it’s not something on my end from what I can tell.

And while I’m at it, here’s one more question. Can you tell me what the dotted outline and little binder icon around these products in the attached screenshot is meant to indicate? They’re installed through DIM, and they’re all working fine (for the most part). But not only to they show up in the “Available” tab of Smart Content, but I don’t have the option to install them through Daz Connect, even though it says on their product page that they can be installed through Daz Connect.

That's User data, which uninstalling will not remove. You can remove it by right-click menu, then replace the emtadata by letting DS go online or reinstalling the product through DIM/Daz Central

Richard Haseltine said:

Whiskeyjack said:

Is anyone else having an issue where you uninstall products through DIM, but they remain installed in Daz Studio? Can't seem to narrow it down to a specific criteria, it just seems to be happening with some products and not others.

That sounds as if the product was also installed through Daz Studio (Daz Connect) - the Daz Central/Install Manager installations are entirely separate from the internal installations, the latter (if present) take precendent. If youi don't intend to install through Daz Studio there is no need for the application to connect to your account at all.

Well, here's the thing; almost every product I download through DIM shows up in Daz with the “Daz Connect” icon in the thumbnail. And when I right-click on the product, I’m given the option to Install through Daz Connect, even though the product is already installed through DIM. You can that in the attached screenshot.

Should I just mass-uninstall everything through DIM, mass-uninstall everything Daz Connect, and then mass-reinstall everything through Daz Connect and stop using DIM altogether? Because it seems like the two are just not communicating with each other, and it’s causing funky stuff to happen. For instance, I’m finding several products are being installed twice, as two separate products; one is installed through DIM, the other is installed through Daz Connect.

It would be a lot of items to reinstall with connect, or I might just. I did update the metadata, and it still isn't showing as installed, but I haven't cleared the database yet. Might be worth a try.

I'd rather have everything installed via Daz Central or the install manager if I can.
I appreciate all your help so much!

The screenshot is what I get when I right click.

If you mean the content library tab, yes I can see her, and the other new content there. It's the smart content tab that doesn't seem to think it's installed.

As far as Daz Connect goes, I think I might have used it to install 5 or 6 things, mostly by accident or when I was in the middle of something and went "ooh. I haven't downloaded that and I could use it." and wasn't feeling like opening Daz Central. So no, I don't really use it much. I do use the Smart Content tab to browse though, unless it's content I've installed from elsewhere. It's just easier for me.

Whiskeyjack said:

Is anyone else having an issue where you uninstall products through DIM, but they remain installed in Daz Studio? Can't seem to narrow it down to a specific criteria, it just seems to be happening with some products and not others.

That sounds as if the product was also installed through Daz Studio (Daz Connect) - the Daz Central/Install Manager installations are entirely separate from the internal installations, the latter (if present) take precendent. If youi don't intend to install through Daz Studio there is no need for the application to connect to your account at all.

Correct. It sees everything I've moved, but not what I've installed since I moved it.

I am installing it in the same library. I went and checked the last thing I installed, the Mari character. It shoud be installing to H/3d Assets/DAZ 3D/Studio/My DAZ 3D Library/, and it is. It shows up as installed in Daz Central and the Install Manager, but the icon is greyed out in the smart content panel as if it's not installed.

I'm not sure what you're asking with the last question, so that might be my problem.

I attached a screenshot of my settings.

If it is DS that can't see it, it has nothing to do with manifest files (as they are for DIM/Daz Central).

You are saying that DS can see your moved content, but not the newly installed.

Are you installing your new content in the same library as the one you have moved?

If not, try to paste an image of your settings Edit > Preferences > Content > Content Library Manager > Das Studio formats

And how does it look if you try to find your newly installed content in Content Library?

And are the CMS running?

Hmm. Almost there. Now that I've installed all the back content that I've wanted to, Install Manager and Daz Central are seeing everything I have installed perfectly, but Daz Studio itself isn't seeing anything I've recently installed. It still shows greyed out in smart content. Everything did install to the correct folders on the new drive. Daz studio is pointed to those folders (which is why it can see all the old content). The manifest files all saved to the correct folder as I installed the new items. What little thing am I missing?

felis said:

It is the manifest files that tells DIM what is installed (and where).

So you will need to appoint DIM to these, for it to know what is installed. You can move these to a new location as well if relevant.

If you have moved your installations to a new location, I would suggest you batch edited the manifest files to the new location. Else DIM will look for files, e.g. for an update, in the wrong location.

Thank you!! Done and now Daz Central and Install Manager both see what I have installed properly. Perfect. I appreciate the help!

Richard Haseltine said:

Daz Central itself does not support setting individual locations for different file types, just a single base location (that is one of its features, to greatly simplify first-time set up). Install Manager will let you adjust settings individually, and Daz Central will respect those. https://www.daz3d.com/get_install_manager/

 So I got install manager installed and set it up to install to where I moved my library, and I think that will work great going forward! Thank you. I still have the problem that neither the install manager, nor Daz Central sees what's already installed though. Daz Studio sees it no problem, which makes sense, but neither of those do. Both install manager and Daz Central just have everything listed as ready to install.

With the new hard drive and the (FINALLY) faster internet connection that I now have, I had planned on going back and installing some things I'd purchased some time ago but hadn't installed because they were too large and I wasn't in a hurry to use them. I have a lot of assets though, so it would be difficult to pick through and know exactly what is installed and what isn't, without being able to see that. Is there a way to do it, or do I need to download everything over again and let it install over the top?

Most likely the system shows theer to be a Connect install (through Daz Studio itself). Find the cotnainer under Products>G, right-click and select Uninstall, then try loading again (uninstall affects only any installation through DS, it won't tocuh the DIM, Daz Central, or manual installs - though I would make sure you have only one.

Daz Central itself does not support setting individual locations for different file types, just a single base location (that is one of its features, to greatly simplify first-time set up). Install Manager will let you adjust settings individually, and Daz Central will respect those. https://www.daz3d.com/get_install_manager/

So I moved my library to another drive and everything is hunky dory in Daz Studio itself, but I cannot make Daz central find it, no matter what I do. It just wants to create a new directory. Is there a way to make daz central see everything that I already have downloaded and install new assets to the correct folder, or do I need to redownload everything over again to have that nice, at a glance, list of what I do and don't have downloaded?