I had the same issue when I first started: https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/112816/victoria-4-and-poke-through#latest

V4 is quite different than the Genesis line and requires a bit more time and patience to set up with clothing and poses. I found it funny that V4's clothing fit G2F so well, but I had massive poke-through when the clothes where on V4 (unless I was using the default V4 shape).

The tips in that thread really helped - particularly adding the smoothing modifier and push modifier. That's a big help. 

I like V4 but don't use her as often due to the added time and patience it takes to set up scenes with her. Clothing can be a pain on anything other than the default V4 shape. I see now why SO MANY of the V4 characters don't have much body diversity and have very similar body shapes to the base Victoria 4. Deviating too much from the base shape definitely can cause more work for the user in trying to get things to fit right. I'm glad the Genesis line doesn't have that issue (well, at least not to the extent that V4, A3, and older figures have). 

a bit off topic as Carrara

but this is how the 8 generations of Victoria speak with the Carrara mimic plugin

sadly only the first 4 generations could be exported fully to DAZ studio as pz2 files using a plugin no longer sold at DAZ by Fenric

g3 & 8 can bone movements via BVH with that plugin but lacks morphs

that looks really great Wendy the best i seen yet.

I don't use many voices in my animation so if i need a lipsynce i just use the 32 byte version of daz. when I'm using  genesis 8  I've been hand keyframing my mouth movements for lack of a g8.dmc .. but like i said i hardly use dialogue in my animation. i try to make my films so they can be understood by anyone without voices which is not as easy as one would think.

BTW good thread wolf thanks for the good info.:)

And from the desktop that does work:

+++++++++++++++ Install Manager 1.2.0.27 starting +++++++++++++++++
OS bits: 64
Platform bits: 64
Qt Version: 4.8.7
Locale: en_US
Running on Windows 10, Build 9200, No Service Pack Installed
Physical Memory:
    Total: 63.8 GB (68590501888)
    Avail: 51.1 GB (54974504960)
Virtual Memory:
    Total: 127.9 TB (140737488224256)
    Avail: 127.9 TB (140732928221184)
Current Memory Usage: 19%
Current DateTime:
    Loc: Sat Jul 6 20:52:01 2019
    UTC: Sun Jul 7 03:52:01 2019
Application Data:
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    Disk Total: 931.0 GB (999691829248)
    Disk Avail: 408.0 GB (438125748224)
Reading dzInstall.ini
Current Account: Account
Current Download Path:
    Location = C:/Users/Public/Documents/DAZ 3D/InstallManager/Downloads
    Disk Total: 931.0 GB (999691829248)
    Disk Avail: 408.0 GB (438125744128)
Current Content Install Path:
    Location = C:/Users/Public/Documents/My DAZ 3D Library
    Disk Total: 931.0 GB (999691829248)
    Disk Avail: 408.0 GB (438125744128)
Current 64-bit Software Install Path:
    Location = C:/Program Files
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    Location = C:/Program Files (x86)
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Starting CMS...
Connected to CMS: PostgreSQL 9.3.4, compiled by Visual C++ build 1600, 64-bit
Current Account: Account
Processed 444 installed products, totaling 102.3 GB
Product 60413-1 has the same name as 60413-2:Cinematography & Editing in the Unreal Engine
Product 53261-1 has the same name as 53261-2:Manga Marker Materials for Genesis 8 Female
Product 52195-2:Classic Long Hair with dForce for Genesis 8 Female(s) Tutorials has no tags
Product 42071-3:Genesis 8 Starter Essentials Mimic has no tags
Product 16281-2:Victoria 6 PoserCF has no tags
Processed 369 products with 506 unique product downloads

Thanks to you both for helping out. To Richard, yes, same connection, permissions seem ok (not sure how permissions work in Windows, but I can create an empty file in that directory). To fastbike1, it doesn't seem to be that... there's nothing in the logs but I could be ignorant of how it works.

But I found some suspicious things in the log. From the laptop that doesn't work:

+++++++++++++++ Install Manager 1.2.0.27 starting +++++++++++++++++
OS bits: 64
Platform bits: 64
Qt Version: 4.8.7
Locale: en_US
Running on Windows 10, Build 9200, No Service Pack Installed
Physical Memory:
    Total: 31.9 GB (34262564864)
    Avail: 29.6 GB (31805984768)
Virtual Memory:
    Total: 127.9 TB (140737488224256)
    Avail: 127.9 TB (140737229127680)
Current Memory Usage: 7%
Current DateTime:
    Loc: Sat Jul 6 20:42:22 2019
    UTC: Sun Jul 7 03:42:22 2019
Application Data:
    Location = C:/Users/donal/AppData/Roaming/DAZ 3D/InstallManager
    Disk Total: 931.4 GB (1000186310656)
    Disk Avail: 889.2 GB (954777165824)
Reading dzInstall.ini
Current Account: Donald A. Dade
Current Download Path:
    Location = C:/Users/Public/Documents/DAZ 3D/InstallManager/Downloads
    Disk Total: 931.4 GB (1000186310656)
    Disk Avail: 889.2 GB (954777165824)
Current Content Install Path:
    Location = C:/Users/Public/Documents/My DAZ 3D Library
    Disk Total: 931.4 GB (1000186310656)
    Disk Avail: 889.2 GB (954777165824)
Current 64-bit Software Install Path:
    Location = C:/Program Files
    Disk Total: 931.4 GB (1000186310656)
    Disk Avail: 889.2 GB (954777165824)
Current 32-bit Software Install Path:
    Location = C:/Program Files (x86)
    Disk Total: 931.4 GB (1000186310656)
    Disk Avail: 889.2 GB (954777165824)
Starting CMS...
Connected to CMS: PostgreSQL 9.3.4, compiled by Visual C++ build 1600, 64-bit
Current Account: Donald A. Dade
Product 60413-1 has the same name as 60413-2:Cinematography & Editing in the Unreal Engine
Product 53261-1 has the same name as 53261-2:Manga Marker Materials for Genesis 8 Female
Product 52195-2:Classic Long Hair with dForce for Genesis 8 Female(s) Tutorials has no tags
Product 42071-3:Genesis 8 Starter Essentials Mimic has no tags
Product 16281-2:Victoria 6 PoserCF has no tags
Processed 369 products with 506 unique product downloads
WARNING: SSL Error: 11 - The issuer certificate of a locally looked up certificate could not be found
WARNING: SSL Error: 17 - The root CA certificate is not trusted for this purpose
WARNING: Network Error while downloading to file "": SSL handshake failed

<this error is repeated many times>

Now,  I understand that SSL certificates can be used just for confidentiality via encryption without a root CA if you don't care about authentication or the connection is being authenticated via some other means, and for that reason, the error might not be fatal. But my desktop that works does not get this error. And it seems unlikely that on a fresh install of Windows 10, what, Microsoft just decided to install a bad root CA?

Michael 6, https://www.daz3d.com/felicity-hd-for-victoria-6, felicity by raiya, and Yanmei, also by raiya

I seldom use any character as they are, but for base characters to start from, The Girl 6 and Ysabeau 6 are probably my favorites (both with some Victoria 6, and other morphs as well). But I also really liked Callie 6 and P3D Quinty (both with additional morphs morphs). IMHO the Genesis 2 Female Morphs Bundle is also a must with almost any character to get them perfect look.

Darius 6, Gianni 6, Stephanie 6, Ninive 6, everything by Raiya, especially the discontinued Liu Yan:

That's a really old jacket for Victoria 3. The vendor was Colm Jackson who did a lot with Poser over at RDNA before the merger. So, odds are he might have picked it up at a different store and not here. Some of the old timers might be able to give you a clue as to what hair, but it might not be available anymore for purchase. I have no clue what the hair is.

Thank you I think it might have come from Runtime, I thought I had it but for the life of me can not find it as yet.

Edited to fix quote

That's a really old jacket for Victoria 3. The vendor was Colm Jackson who did a lot with Poser over at RDNA before the merger. So, odds are he might have picked it up at a different store and not here. Some of the old timers might be able to give you a clue as to what hair, but it might not be available anymore for purchase. I have no clue what the hair is.

Hey guys! Noobie here!

quick question: Can The Girl 8 be merged with Mika 8 like Aiko 7 could be merged with Mika 7? Or can it only be merged with the characters in the photograph in The Girl’s prodocut page (Victoria, Stephanie, Charlotte, Penny, Aiko.)

I love the look of Aiko 7 and Mika 7, but looking for the benefits of Gen 8. I really wasn’t feeling the look of the Mika 8 morphs so I thought mixing it with The Girl might soften it up a little while keeping a stylized look.

I purchased 3 of Xurge 3D models...I can't get them to work properly in Daz3D on any of the models...is there someone or some tutorial that can show me how to get the clothing to work properly?  I also haven't been able to re download the purchased models.  I have sent two emails over the last 2 years with no response.

 

Cory

You need to load the very old Michael 4 or Victoria 4 models in Daz, then load the clothes and select "fit to" (...M4 or V4). If you have Wear Them All for Genesis 3, or RSSY V4 to G8, you can convert them forward to more modern characters pretty easily. If you only use Genesis 8 and are not experienced with converting clothes forward, you need to load Genesis, fit the Xurge3d clothes to them to trigger autofit, and then autofit again to Genesis 8. The results of the second method won't be impressive, especially if you haven't bought Ultra Templates or something else that would expand your autofit options, but it will work.

Some of his clothes use mtl files for the texture sets (which Daz can't read) rather than pz2, which it can. The good news is that all the clothes from one Xurge set usually are set up to fit on a single UVmap, which means that all you need to do is to select all the articles of clothing, go to the surfaces tab, select all the surfaces, and browse to the location of that outfit's textures, and apply the same texture to all pieces at once. (Then save out as a DS materials preset, of course).

a bit off topic as Carrara

but this is how the 8 generations of Victoria speak with the Carrara mimic plugin

sadly only the first 4 generations could be exported fully to DAZ studio as pz2 files using a plugin no longer sold at DAZ by Fenric

g3 & 8 can bone movements via BVH with that plugin but lacks morphs

Wonderful ear, Veronika.  The subsurface effect is amazing (assuming I'm identifying it correctly - if not, then it is even more impressive).

Happy 4th, Misty.

Welcome back, Andrew.  Great to see you posting again.

Thanks for the nice comment, UB and Headwax.

Here is the final of the world-gone-bad image.  I inserted David 5, Victoria 6, and Misty's Johnathan G3M figure with Veronika's Lukas skin maps.  Some post work with Filter Forge Steve J Dreamscape (mixed in at low setting) and some adjustments of levels in PSE.

Straight render

Adjusted

 

Really like the environment you created with this image. Thanks for the explanations.

Using the ITF Merchant Morphs on other characters

Because ITF Ears Remove, ITF Eyes Remove and ITF Nose Remove are made for the base Genesis 8 Female shape, adding another character shape will result in deformations such as these (Victoria 8):

The ITF morphs still get you most of the way there, so it is a quick process to export this mesh into a sculting application of your choice for a simple smooth of the affected areas. I use Mudbox, but Blender is a free option with lots of training materials. Another option to do it all in Daz Studion may be X-Morphs / Shape Splitter (https://www.daz3d.com/shape-splitter), though I don't yet own it myself to test:

HD details for characters can be applied, but the detail will still show up in the previously removed areas:

A quick fix for this when doing still renders is to blend a render with HD details applied with a render without HD details. I used photoshop to do this, but most 2D applications will allow this:

To make the textures work with the removal morphs, I used clone stamping and spot healing in Photoshop to remove the texture information surrounding the eyes, ears and nose. When rendered and combined as above, this is the result:

Is there a blush face effect for victoria 4 at all? I have seen ones mentioned for G3 and other later figured but not Victoria 4 ever. Can anyone suggest one I can get here or anywhere if there is one? thx.

Peaches is adorable! I picked up Peaches, Expansion 1, and Cheetahs for $2.99 each since they're on sale right now. I really like her. The description says that she can use Cookies hair, clothing, etc, so I'll have to see about snagging a few of Cookie's clothing items and hair when they're on sale. :) Also, she appears to do ok with Victoria 4 poses, with some minor adjustments needed. So far though the V4 poses I've tried with her work pretty well. It looks like mainly just feet and fingers need some adjustment after applying the poses.

I've been seeing mentions of Save with Victoria, but never saw anything about the actual deal; I guess I was unworthy....

To celebrate Victoria's birthday each week during June there were discount coupons of either 20% or 10% off depending on how much you spent the week before. But purchases made with store credit didn't count toward getting the discount.

 

I did use store credit, butIf I'd known I might have paid with money if it resulted in a good coupon.  I read my DAZ emails so I don't know how I missed hearing about it.  Ah well...

Victoria

1 2 3 4

5 6 7 8

since I used your audio for comparison I unlisted it

I may try one with each Vicky later individually using my voice

Entry: #23

Title: World Gone Bad

Artist: Diomede (Ted Murphy)

WIP:  https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/comment/4713071/#Comment_4713071

Comments: Credits to Misty for Johnathan (G3M compatible with Carrara) and Vyusur G3M Lucas character, David 5, Victoria 6.  All clothing available in Daz store, including Tow and Country fo Genesis, TS Jacket for Genesis, Wildmane hair for Genesis, Hikari hair for G2F, 70s Romper for G2F, Toon generation pants and shirt for G3M.

Wonderful ear, Veronika.  The subsurface effect is amazing (assuming I'm identifying it correctly - if not, then it is even more impressive).

Happy 4th, Misty.

Welcome back, Andrew.  Great to see you posting again.

Thanks for the nice comment, UB and Headwax.

Here is the final of the world-gone-bad image.  I inserted David 5, Victoria 6, and Misty's Johnathan G3M figure with Veronika's Lukas skin maps.  Some post work with Filter Forge Steve J Dreamscape (mixed in at low setting) and some adjustments of levels in PSE.

Straight render

Adjusted