Yes, proofreading is not a priority. If it makes you feel any better, it isn't a priority for the writers I edit for :( You may not see any Select Free items if you own them all. Has anyone unchecked Hide Items I Own (if you have Daz Deals) or viewed while logged out?

Good idea but yes I tried this and it did not work, I still do not see any free items to select from.  All items I have purchased were there though.

I don't even see a SECTION for the "Select Free Items" on the Anniversery Sale page at all.

There was the free HD Addons on yesterday's sales page. I'm guessing the "Buy any Debut New to get a Select FREE* Items below" in the Debut New Releases section is leftover and needs to be removed.

Could be. I picked up the Victoria 7 HD Add-On yesterday.

Oh well, just did pick up a combo of Brute 8 Pro bundle and Gianni 7 Pro bundle for $40! There's a flash sale on for buy a G8 bundle, get G3 or G2 bundle free.

And eventually I will just checkout the big wishlist I assembled this morning even if no free item.

I'm guessing you both have this product: https://www.daz3d.com/eyedeas-5-extended-for-genesis-8-female-s - that's where those morphs seem to come from. The Victoria 8 eyebrows themselves have no morphs whatsover, according to the manifest file from DIM.

Yup. Thanks, @MelanieL. It was really worth the money, even though I'd forgotten all about it.

I'm guessing you both have this product: https://www.daz3d.com/eyedeas-5-extended-for-genesis-8-female-s - that's where those morphs seem to come from. The Victoria 8 eyebrows themselves have no morphs whatsover, according to the manifest file from DIM.

Sorry for the lapse, guys, but I just got a chance to check out what you were saying, and I don't know why your setup doesn't show it. I'm afraid I'm having an issue with my Screenshots on my Daz computer. Even though you appear to have done the right thing, just in case, here, step by step, is what I did:

Select "Victoria 8 Eyebrows" in the Scene tab.

Open Parameters tab, and "Actor" should be immediately below "General" and immediately above "Display."

Click on "Actor," and you will see 17 morphs (plus 2 greyed-out morphs on top---if you have Show Hidden enabled).

These morphs allow a great deal of variety and coverage, regardless of the character's head sahpe.

I get them, these are the brows loaded from People>Genesis 8 Female>Anatomy>Victoria 8 Eyebrows

Sorry for the lapse, guys, but I just got a chance to check out what you were saying, and I don't know why your setup doesn't show it. I'm afraid I'm having an issue with my Screenshots on my Daz computer. Even though you appear to have done the right thing, just in case, here, step by step, is what I did:

Select "Victoria 8 Eyebrows" in the Scene tab.

Open Parameters tab, and "Actor" should be immediately below "General" and immediately above "Display."

Click on "Actor," and you will see 17 morphs (plus 2 greyed-out morphs on top---if you have Show Hidden enabled).

These morphs allow a great deal of variety and coverage, regardless of the character's head sahpe.

I was thinking that Leisa was one of the more credible mature characters, and Allesandra kept that theme going (Gabi is a bit too WTF for me) useful for a CEO, scientist, librarian, etc. but then I saw one little item that just blew everything for me.

Height: 6' 0" (182.8 cm)

Seriously? That's 99.92 percentile. Less than 1 in 1000. That won't look realistic in a car, at a desk, going through a doorway, etc. Kitchen counters are at the wrong height for her. ( 50% for the US is 5'3.6"). Oh, and the standard weight for a 6' woman is 188 pounds. 

Teen Josie 8 is 5'5", which is 75th percentile for adult women. Teen Raven 8 is 5'6". Fortunately, it appears that all the DAZ teens are 18-19, so they've basically stopped growing.

DAZ heights are out of control. Next generation won't even fit in cars, will bump their heads in doorways,  I'm picturing Victoria 9 coming in at 6'4". What do we use these characters for, aside from the obvious NVITWS?

6'0" sounds perfect to me, though I think I can count on one hand the number of women I've met at that height that were not basketball players. 188 pounds seems quite heavy though.

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Pastel Goth Outfit for Genesis 8 Female(s)
2007 AM Limo
Blue-Headed Parrot (both varieties)
Dark Fantasy Add-Ons for Genesis 3 Male(s) (LB)
Classic Pole Arms (LB) 

Also used:
Penthouse Suite Level 1
Gargoyle
Nybras
HFS Fantasy Shapes for Genesis 3 Male(s)
Jepe's Art Deco Statuettes for Victoria 8 pedestals and textures
Evan for Genesis 3 Male
PHYSEK Poses for Michael 7 & Leo 7
Fantasy Skins for Genesis 8
Tattoo for Genesis 3 Male(s)
Dragoh pants

Has anyone rendered Gabi without Leisa yet?

Here you go. I added one with 100% Leisa for comparison, and also one with 0% Leisa but 100% Victoria for good measure.

Thank you so much!!!!!   I am not certain I like her without Leisa.

"I feel so violated," Victoria was quoted as saying at a press conference. "I was told that my likeness would be used in ART. Instead, I find countless pictures of me naked spread all over the Internet. Some of them, I'm augmented so bad, it's grotesque! I can't go anywhere without someone asking me 'Hey, aren't you that naked chick? You know the one in the temple with the sword?' I am a serious model and actress, do you have any idea what this has done to my career?"

Made it last 13 more years? 

Has anyone rendered Gabi without Leisa yet?

Here you go. I added one with 100% Leisa for comparison, and also one with 0% Leisa but 100% Victoria for good measure.

MODERN LEG PROSTHETIC for Genesis 3 & 8 Female(s)

Product Details:

Like with the Modern Leg Prosthetic for Genesis 3 and 8 Male,  the Modern Leg Prosthetic for Genesis 3 & 8 Females will allow users to amputate their G3 & G8 female characters' left and/or right leg via a Geograft and have them wear an artificial device instead.

As the product name implies, the "Modern Leg Prosthetic" has been designed with versatility in mind; allowing characters to wear the prosthetic regardless of whether they're depicted as fantasy warriors, modern men, cyberpunk mercenaries or intergalactic pilots.

The prosthetic includes enough material presets and zones to give every user a wide range of customization in order to fit their unique and artistic vision. What's more, the prosthetic also features four different types of plates and 6 pre-made styles (wearable), giving you enough options to allow several characters to wear the same leg in a render, yet having them look different & unique!

What's Included and features:

Each generation includes:

•  3 different front plate styles.
•  3 different back plate styles.
•  1 full plate style.
•  2 Base Legs (left and right) and 2 brackets (to keep the plates in place).
•  A total of 22 Leg Props (11 for each leg) meant to allow the user to add them to a scene and pose them without the figure.
•  14 Wearable Presets (7 for each leg).
•  6 ready-made wearable presets (styles).
•  2 Geografts attachments to amputate the left and right leg of the character.
•  A LIE scar for the amputation (Geograft) with 3 color variations (Dark, Midtone & Light); as well as an optional preset to include a Displacement map to give the scar an extra sense of depth.
•  A script with instructions on how to set up the Geograft for those unfamiliar with them.
•  A whooping 312 Iray Material Presets for fine-tuning and customization.
•  16 Designer Sets (Hierarchical Materials) for each leg.
• 242 Texture Maps (4096 x 4096) which include: Normal, Diffuse, Specular, Metallic, Masks and Displacement maps.

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Important Considerations:

Like with the male version, this product relies on specific bone positions to work properly (without breaking apart). As such, extreme shapes may not always work. Unsupported shapes with a knee position too different from any of the supported shapes might also break the leg. Additionally, while the geograft blends with the skin properly, the transition between the character and the graft is somewhat visible near the butt (crack) area, so it may not hold up in close-up nude renders.

Compatibility: The Prosthetic Leg shares the same UVs as the male version, so you can swap materials between the products. The only preset that will not work across genders are the hierarchical iray presets for the designer sets. However, you can apply the designer sets via the separated props.

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Genesis 3 Female Supported Shapes:

• Aiko 7
• Arabella 7
• Genevieve 7
• Gia 7
• Karen 7
• Mei Lin 7
• Mika 7
• Monique 7
• Olympia 7
• Ophelia 7
• Rune 7
• Teen Josie 7
• Victoria 7
• Bodybuilder Details
• Bodybuilder Size
• Body Size
• Body Tone
• Fitness Details
• Fitness Size
• Heavy
• Height (with minor distortion around the knee when dialed to the extreme)
• Lithe
• Portly
• Stocky
• Thin
• Leg Length
• Thighs Size
• Thighs Tone 
• Other Shapes may work with by Auto-follow

Genesis 8 Female Supported Shapes:

• Aiko 8
• Alexandra 8
• Babina 8
• Charlotte 8
• Edie 8
• Elithia 8
• Gabriela 8
• Jenni 8
• Kanade 8
• Mika 8
• Monique 8
• Mrs Chow 8
• Teen Josie 8
• Sakura 8
• Victoria 8
• Cartoonized
• Bodybuilder Details
• Bodybuilder Size
• Body Size
• Body Tone
• Fitness Details
• Fitness Size
• Heavy
• Height (with minor distortion around the knee)
• Lithe
• Portly
• Stocky
• Thin
• Leg Length
• Thighs Size
• Thighs Tone 
• Other Shapes may work with Auto-follow

Product Last Updated: on Nov. 22 2019 with a fix for the leg morphs.

I was thinking that Leisa was one of the more credible mature characters, and Allesandra kept that theme going (Gabi is a bit too WTF for me) useful for a CEO, scientist, librarian, etc. but then I saw one little item that just blew everything for me.

Height: 6' 0" (182.8 cm)

Seriously? That's 99.92 percentile. Less than 1 in 1000. That won't look realistic in a car, at a desk, going through a doorway, etc. Kitchen counters are at the wrong height for her. ( 50% for the US is 5'3.6"). Oh, and the standard weight for a 6' woman is 188 pounds. 

Teen Josie 8 is 5'5", which is 75th percentile for adult women. Teen Raven 8 is 5'6". Fortunately, it appears that all the DAZ teens are 18-19, so they've basically stopped growing.

DAZ heights are out of control. Next generation won't even fit in cars, will bump their heads in doorways,  I'm picturing Victoria 9 coming in at 6'4". What do we use these characters for, aside from the obvious NVITWS?

Better nutrition? 

Hormones in meat?

Domnatrixes for wimply little Michael 9? 

I was thinking that Leisa was one of the more credible mature characters, and Allesandra kept that theme going (Gabi is a bit too WTF for me) useful for a CEO, scientist, librarian, etc. but then I saw one little item that just blew everything for me.

Height: 6' 0" (182.8 cm)

Seriously? That's 99.92 percentile. Less than 1 in 1000. That won't look realistic in a car, at a desk, going through a doorway, etc. Kitchen counters are at the wrong height for her. ( 50% for the US is 5'3.6"). Oh, and the standard weight for a 6' woman is 188 pounds. 

Teen Josie 8 is 5'5", which is 75th percentile for adult women. Teen Raven 8 is 5'6". Fortunately, it appears that all the DAZ teens are 18-19, so they've basically stopped growing.

DAZ heights are out of control. Next generation won't even fit in cars, will bump their heads in doorways,  I'm picturing Victoria 9 coming in at 6'4". What do we use these characters for, aside from the obvious NVITWS?

Better nutrition? 

Hormones in meat?

did it and all the morphs are deleted.... 

Thanks for trying!

oh, i see, not all the morph sliders do anything, Victoria 8 works, but like body peaer shape isn't.  Bummer

guess only way is to figure out how to inject those pollies into the Actor array.

and it's not the morph part of v8 working, it's only the scaling.  go figure  doh.

sorry folks, can't find a way to modify morph area inside carrara

tried with the duplicate feature in the morph tab, but i don't know how, is all trial and error. 
The copy paste thru notepad seems to be the only repliable way right now.

g8f is like totally frankensteined. 
G8Male doesn't have that extra Actor group. He doesn't have the region map like she does.

It's not for me - my braiwaves are too weak to register - but for Vicky. I'm doing a scene in which I'm monitoring her brain activity. I've got some nice electrodes attached to her head with this item: https://www.daz3d.com/gear-cybernet-for-victoria-4 but I need something to plug it into. Something medical/electronic looking that can sit on a table and look plausible.

At the moment my leading contender is this: https://www.daz3d.com/electronic-testgear , but I'd like to hear other suggestions if you have them. Free or cheap preferred, of course!

 

 

G1 was brilliant. Honestly I consider G2 and even the later generations a solid step back conceptually. The universal mesh made making exotic characters much less painful... I can see why some PAs didn't like it, beause they had to account for a greater degree of deformation... and it also had the issue that Daz hadn't overtaken poser completely yet, and because of that V4/M4 still held on because of greater compatability.

IMHO, Genesis was the only real genesis. The later are just Micheal/Victoria with a borrowed name.

Only way I'll really get into G9 is if it goes back to a universal figure in some way.

Personally, I think a 1/2 step would be best. Universal core mesh but with two in built gender morphs that are markted as the core figures. Allow shared textures, geoshells, and morphs, but without the promiss of absolute inter-gender intercompatability as the core mesh is just there to serve as a bridge, not as a foundation as it was in Genesis.

I like exotics and one of the things that's always pissed me off is the impossibility of mixing genders due to most "exotic" characters being completely mono-gender.

...I agree and still use Genesis "classic" for the many toon characters that were released for it as well as alien and other exotic morphs.

Genesis 1 was best genesis. Was only REAL Genesis.

G1 was brilliant. Honestly I consider G2 and even the later generations a solid step back conceptually. The universal mesh made making exotic characters much less painful... I can see why some PAs didn't like it, beause they had to account for a greater degree of deformation... and it also had the issue that Daz hadn't overtaken poser completely yet, and because of that V4/M4 still held on because of greater compatability.

IMHO, Genesis was the only real genesis. The later are just Micheal/Victoria with a borrowed name.

Only way I'll really get into G9 is if it goes back to a universal figure in some way.

Personally, I think a 1/2 step would be best. Universal core mesh but with two in built gender morphs that are markted as the core figures. Allow shared textures, geoshells, and morphs, but without the promiss of absolute inter-gender intercompatability as the core mesh is just there to serve as a bridge, not as a foundation as it was in Genesis.

I like exotics and one of the things that's always pissed me off is the impossibility of mixing genders due to most "exotic" characters being completely mono-gender.

...I agree and still use Genesis "classic" for the many toon characters that were released for it as well as alien and other exotic morphs.

What hair on Paloma? 

Thanks in advance

https://www.daz3d.com/fwsa-paloma-hd-for-victoria-7

It may not be obvious, but G3 was a significant change

Since G3 the figures also became more industry friendly. It is easier now to use them and animate them in external programs, like Maya, Unreal or Blender.

 

The new twist bones made G3/8 LESS animation friendly. Anyone who animates characters knows this.

In my experience Daz isn't a very animation friendly program on the whole. It lacks a lot of basic fundimental physics features and those that it does have tend to be a bit janky and are half locked behind the PA access barrier.

I'm to the point that the most I do with daz is use it as a character design program then feed the result into blender to do the actual work.

Now if it uses dForce maybe I will change my mind

• dForce autofit
• dForce body and face
• dForce pose adjustment (no figure passing through the surfaces, for example adjust the leg bend when the foot meet the ground)

These days, I wouldn't count on any new features like that not being in some way paywalled or PA limited.

G1 was a major game changer, but enough of the market (and the content creators) was not willing to take up the banner to cut its development cycle short. G1 barely got two full years.

G1 was brilliant. Honestly I consider G2 and even the later generations a solid step back conceptually. The universal mesh made making exotic characters much less painful... I can see why some PAs didn't like it, beause they had to account for a greater degree of deformation... and it also had the issue that Daz hadn't overtaken poser completely yet, and because of that V4/M4 still held on because of greater compatability.

IMHO, Genesis was the only real genesis. The later are just Micheal/Victoria with a borrowed name.

Only way I'll really get into G9 is if it goes back to a universal figure in some way.

Personally, I think a 1/2 step would be best. Universal core mesh but with two in built gender morphs that are markted as the core figures. Allow shared textures, geoshells, and morphs, but without the promiss of absolute inter-gender intercompatability as the core mesh is just there to serve as a bridge, not as a foundation as it was in Genesis.

I like exotics and one of the things that's always pissed me off is the impossibility of mixing genders due to most "exotic" characters being completely mono-gender.

DAZ heights are out of control.

Well, for technical reasons you do want to have the male and female bases the same size

What reasons would those be? Explain at any level you like, I'll keep up.

- which is 180cm for pretty much every generation I can recall, (or 5' 11" for those who think in those terms), which isn't unusual for a male. It impacts things like auto-fit and other cross-model transfer.

They do then seem to have got stuck in that rut, however, building models off that as if that should be the average for both men and women, so a woman that's supposed to be slightly taller than average has to start getting very very tall in real world terms.

That's a side effect of having the majority of your women being either model types or warrior types. The fashion industry considered 5'8" the minimum for a fashion model, and that's 95th percentile for women.

Next generation won't even fit in cars

On that front, I don't believe the figures have been getting significantly taller over time. Lining up all the versions of Victoria I have (4 through to 8), the only one that isn't about the 180cm average of the base figures is V5, who's about 10cm/4" shorter than her other generations.

Victoria is just the "first base" figure.