So I was hunting old freebies and found a texture for the Vicky2P4 actor that comes with the Victoria 2 package. So this actor is Victoria 2 with the shape of Poser 4 Female body. Kind of the beginings of a clone. Not bad for beinging 17 years old. Rendered in iray. A homage to the classic complaint that all Vicky ever got was skimpwear so she was forced to go fight at the temple.

its an shame that the default G8F skin is made for skinny Victoria secret [figures].

most men prefers real womans with curves.

so whats the best skin for large [breasts] that doesnt look like an moon landscape with craters on it?

 

i guess you need another type of UV mapping?

Last time I looked, women came in various curvy shapes - not a sharp angle in sight.

 

Any character that has large breast should have had the texture painted on with that shape applied, which should then eliminate the texture stretching; if merchant resources were used then there can be issues.

Textures stretch IRL, too.

its an shame that the default G8F skin is made for skinny Victoria secret [figures].

most men prefers real womans with curves.

so whats the best skin for large [breasts] that doesnt look like an moon landscape with craters on it?

 

i guess you need another type of UV mapping?

Any character that has large breast should have had the texture painted on with that shape applied, which should then eliminate the texture stretching;

That only solves the problem of using that character's textures, though.

its an shame that the default G8F skin is made for skinny Victoria secret [figures].

most men prefers real womans with curves.

so whats the best skin for large [breasts] that doesnt look like an moon landscape with craters on it?

 

i guess you need another type of UV mapping?

Last time I looked, women came in various curvy shapes - not a sharp angle in sight.

Any character that has large breast should have had the texture painted on with that shape applied, which should then eliminate the texture stretching; if merchant resources were used then there can be issues.

https://www.daz3d.com/lie-wound-pack

A very cool product. Is there a way to make it work with gen 8 figures?

its an shame that the default G8F skin is made for skinny Victoria secret bitches.

most men prefers real womans with curves.

Womanhood is not defined by a body type, and you don't speak for men.

Some of us like smaller Tatas.

its an shame that the default G8F skin is made for skinny Victoria secret bitches.

most men prefers real womans with curves.

Womanhood is not defined by a body type, and you don't speak for men.

its an shame that the default G8F skin is made for skinny Victoria secret [figures].

most men prefers real womans with curves.

so whats the best skin for large [breasts] that doesnt look like an moon landscape with craters on it?

i guess you need another type of UV mapping?

I see these two products

https://www.daz3d.com/genx2-addon-for-genesis-3

https://www.daz3d.com/genx2-addon-for-genesis-2

I hope they are the ones and there is a bundle too, maybe I will go for that one.

Yes, they're the ones I was talking about. There's no bundle AFAIK.

I already have the character converter from Genesis 2 to Genesis 8

https://www.daz3d.com/character-converter-from-genesis-2-male-to-genesis-8-male-

and the character converter from Genesis 3 to Genesis 8

https://www.daz3d.com/character-converter-from-genesis-3-male-to-genesis-8-male

I think I will be able to master this with a lot of practice.

Is it better to convert M4 to Genesis 2 or Genesis 3 before converting to Genesis 8?

There's no set rule. Sometimes it works a bit better if you go to G2, other times converting from G3 works better, it depends on the character.

Also,

Now there is the question of: La Femme Pro - Female Poser Figure, La Femme Base Figure - Included in Poser Pro 11

Before I got really working a lot in Daz Studio I bought Poser 11 and the Noah L'Homme figure which is based upon the La Fem Pro figure

https://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/noah-lhomme/140673

Is this La Fem figure based upon any of the Victoria figures?

No, it's a totally different figure.

Is there a way to convert Noah to Genesis?

Not that I know of.

"Genesis" is the first one.

Did you buy and install the G2 and G3 add-ons for GenX2? You need them to be able to convert to Genesis 2 or 3.

Hello Leana, thanks a lot for your considerable amount of help here!

I see these two products

https://www.daz3d.com/genx2-addon-for-genesis-3

https://www.daz3d.com/genx2-addon-for-genesis-2

I hope they are the ones and there is a bundle too, maybe I will go for that one.

I already have the character converter from Genesis 2 to Genesis 8

https://www.daz3d.com/character-converter-from-genesis-2-male-to-genesis-8-male-

and the character converter from Genesis 3 to Genesis 8

https://www.daz3d.com/character-converter-from-genesis-3-male-to-genesis-8-male

I think I will be able to master this with a lot of practice.

Is it better to convert M4 to Genesis 2 or Genesis 3 before converting to Genesis 8?

Also,

Now there is the question of: La Femme Pro - Female Poser Figure, La Femme Base Figure - Included in Poser Pro 11

Before I got really working a lot in Daz Studio I bought Poser 11 and the Noah L'Homme figure which is based upon the La Fem Pro figure

https://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/noah-lhomme/140673

Is this La Fem figure based upon any of the Victoria figures?

Is there a way to convert Noah to Genesis?

I should probably start another thread for this but I thought I would inquire here first.

I will pop in and say that if you have the two add-ons, you get the ability to go from m4 to gen 3.  You have to get to Gen 2 or Gen 3 to make the final conversion...as long as you have the appropriate final converter, it probably doesn't matter since G3 and G8 share so much of the same topololgy. There is no way to go from Noah to Genesis; they are completely unconnected. La Femme has nothing shared with Victoria; two different competing companies.

Some of the possible converters:

https://www.daz3d.com/character-converter-from-genesis-2-male-to-genesis-8-male-
https://www.daz3d.com/character-converter-from-genesis-8-male-to-genesis-3-male
https://www.daz3d.com/xtransfer--genesis-3-to-genesis-8-converter
 

"Genesis" is the first one.

Did you buy and install the G2 and G3 add-ons for GenX2? You need them to be able to convert to Genesis 2 or 3.

Hello Leana, thanks a lot for your considerable amount of help here!

I see these two products

https://www.daz3d.com/genx2-addon-for-genesis-3

https://www.daz3d.com/genx2-addon-for-genesis-2

I hope they are the ones and there is a bundle too, maybe I will go for that one.

I already have the character converter from Genesis 2 to Genesis 8

https://www.daz3d.com/character-converter-from-genesis-2-male-to-genesis-8-male-

and the character converter from Genesis 3 to Genesis 8

https://www.daz3d.com/character-converter-from-genesis-3-male-to-genesis-8-male

I think I will be able to master this with a lot of practice.

Is it better to convert M4 to Genesis 2 or Genesis 3 before converting to Genesis 8?

Also,

Now there is the question of: La Femme Pro - Female Poser Figure, La Femme Base Figure - Included in Poser Pro 11

Before I got really working a lot in Daz Studio I bought Poser 11 and the Noah L'Homme figure which is based upon the La Fem Pro figure

https://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/noah-lhomme/140673

Is this La Fem figure based upon any of the Victoria figures?

Is there a way to convert Noah to Genesis?

I should probably start another thread for this but I thought I would inquire here first.

I think the Wiki pages are wrong to say that Millenium Man Michael released at the same time as Victoria 1 aka Millenium Woman in Feb 1999. That's been 21 years ago but I had just bought a Poser at a local book store in 1999 and I seem to remember Victoria 1 aka Millenium Woman being sold for a shocking $99.95, which I wouldn't pay for and so used the Poser figures, and as the link you gave shows, Michael 1 aka the Millenium Man being sold for $39.95, which was still expensive but I did buy as $39.95 (eventually) was much more affordable, but he wasn't available until much later in terms of digital product lifecycle. So I think it was Victoria released in February 1999 as it coincided only maybe a month after my purchase of Poser 4 for a whopping 600 Swiss Francs (it may of been and probably was Poser 4 Pro I bought).  So Victoria 1 aka Millenium Woman would of cost about 200 Swiss Francs! Wow, that's a lot of cash! Michael 1 aka Millenium Man, I remember and I thought it odd that Victoria 1 aka Millenium Woman didn't have a male counterpart and seem to remember it releasing in January 1, 2000 just like your link says but I waited a while because at $39.95 I thought still expensive too but not crazy expensive like Victoria 1 was. 

Yes this correlates with my memories as well. I forget which caveman version of Poser I was using at that point but it was an early one!

I think the Wiki pages are wrong to say that Millenium Man Michael released at the same time as Victoria 1 aka Millenium Woman in Feb 1999. That's been 21 years ago but I had just bought a Poser at a local book store in 1999 and I seem to remember Victoria 1 aka Millenium Woman being sold for a shocking $99.95, which I wouldn't pay for and so used the Poser figures, and as the link you gave shows, Michael 1 aka the Millenium Man being sold for $39.95, which was still expensive but I did buy as $39.95 (eventually) was much more affordable, but he wasn't available until much later in terms of digital product lifecycle. So I think it was Victoria released in February 1999 as it coincided only maybe a month after my purchase of Poser 4 for a whopping 600 Swiss Francs (it may of been and probably was Poser 4 Pro I bought).  So Victoria 1 aka Millenium Woman would of cost about 200 Swiss Francs! Wow, that's a lot of cash! Michael 1 aka Millenium Man, I remember and I thought it odd that Victoria 1 aka Millenium Woman didn't have a male counterpart and seem to remember it releasing in January 1, 2000 just like your link says but I waited a while because at $39.95 I thought still expensive too but not crazy expensive like Victoria 1 was. 

Thanks for your input!  I'm all about having accurate release dates, hopefully others that were doing the Poser thing around that time can chime in here!

I think the Wiki pages are wrong to say that Millenium Man Michael released at the same time as Victoria 1 aka Millenium Woman in Feb 1999. That's been 21 years ago but I had just bought a Poser at a local book store in 1999 and I seem to remember Victoria 1 aka Millenium Woman being sold for a shocking $99.95, which I wouldn't pay for and so used the Poser figures, and as the link you gave shows, Michael 1 aka the Millenium Man being sold for $39.95, which was still expensive but I did buy as $39.95 (eventually) was much more affordable, but he wasn't available until much later in terms of digital product lifecycle. So I think it was Victoria released in February 1999 as it coincided only maybe a month after my purchase of Poser 4 for a whopping 600 Swiss Francs (it may of been and probably was Poser 4 Pro I bought).  So Victoria 1 aka Millenium Woman would of cost about 200 Swiss Francs! Wow, that's a lot of cash! Michael 1 aka Millenium Man, I remember and I thought it odd that Victoria 1 aka Millenium Woman didn't have a male counterpart and seem to remember it releasing in January 1, 2000 just like your link says but I waited a while because at $39.95 I thought still expensive too but not crazy expensive like Victoria 1 was. 

Sooo, today's sale may be the closest we get to Michael 8's birthday this year (Yay!).  Michael 8 was released on August 22nd, 2017.  Glad to see Michael getting a nod of sorts today, even if it's about a month ahead of M8's BDay..

As for the other Michaels...

These are the 'officially acknowledged' dates taken from the documentation pages

Michael 1 aka Millenium Man: January 1st 2000 according to the docs page... The Wiki page notes that Victoria, possibly along with Michael (by then Zygote) was released around February of 1999.  Note that Daz Productions bacame it's own company around April 2nd of 2001, according to this archived press release:

https://web.archive.org/web/20030212201415/http://www.daz3d.com/pages/dp/press/press_releases/daz-zygote split.html

Michael 2 is a bit of a mystery.  There's currently no page for him in the docs pages index, and a number of pages in the 0001-9999 series are missing.  The M2 texture maps for M1 were released on October 25th, 2001.  I did come across this press release on webarchive that is dated January 7th, 2002:

https://web.archive.org/web/20021215112631/http://www.daz3d.com/pages/dp/press/press_releases/michael2.0.html

Michael 3.0 Base: September 10th, 2003

Michael 4 Base: October 20th, 2010

Michael 5: April 24th, 2012

Michael 6:  November 19th, 2013

Michael 7: November 17th, 2015

Michael 8: August 22nd, 2017.

I did this render a while back, which includes Michaels 4-8 and the corresponding Victorias...

I should give a nod to the Michael Appreciation Association:

https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/68371/michael-and-friends-appreciation-association-lots-of-images-please/p1

https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/234631/michael-and-friends-appreciation-association-images-pt-2/p1

Quick nod to this thread, for those that might be curious about such things:

https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/24257/daz-3d-human-figures-a-history/p1

So as to when we should give Michael an 'official' nod as far as dates, that's a good question... I'm just happy that he was given a nod again today!  Thanks for the purple banner coupon Daz! (for those of us that previously purchased the associated Michaels).

YAY MICHAEL!

@AprilYSH you are too modest!  I've been buying your wonderful hairs right back to Victoria 3 (remember Sylphiad Hair? one of my all-time favs!), so you have vast experience of designing and making hair models, which are the "Gold Standard".

Soooooooo was I not invited to the party or did Vicky's birthday go by without celebration this year lol?

 

I don't know from experience, but I understood from chat here in the forums that Vicky's birthday has historically been made a banner/event and that her G8 version was "born" on 15th June 2017.  Surely 3 isn't too old for a birthday party! 

We are in July, I think there was something in June.

Yeah I know, 12th July, so we're nearly a month off her "birthday" now. I remember there was "All the Vicky's for FREE" in March or April, but no event in June unless I totally spaced and missed it ?

They did offer both the Michael and Victoria 7 Pro Bundles for $1,99 per piece for a day for PC-members, at June 1st......

 

I expect that the two people who didn't already own them took advantage of the offer.

Jack posted at the beginning of the June PC+ sale that one of the reasons for having the sale was because a lot of new people had recently joined the platinium club. As such I suspect a lot of these did not own M7 and V7 pros, as most new users will likely invest in Genesis 8. Therefore I imagine there was a lot more than 2 that did not have those bundles.

Just because new faces in the forums are quite rare, doesn't mean there aren't new buyers.

...I rarely purchase Pro bundles these days since a goo portion of the additional content is fantasy oriented, other characters, & such.  1.99$ however was too good to pass up.

Soooooooo was I not invited to the party or did Vicky's birthday go by without celebration this year lol?

 

I don't know from experience, but I understood from chat here in the forums that Vicky's birthday has historically been made a banner/event and that her G8 version was "born" on 15th June 2017.  Surely 3 isn't too old for a birthday party! 

We are in July, I think there was something in June.

Yeah I know, 12th July, so we're nearly a month off her "birthday" now. I remember there was "All the Vicky's for FREE" in March or April, but no event in June unless I totally spaced and missed it ?

They did offer both the Michael and Victoria 7 Pro Bundles for $1,99 per piece for a day for PC-members, at June 1st......

 

I expect that the two people who didn't already own them took advantage of the offer.

One of these would be me. While i did already owned v7, it was only the character i grabbed during MM extension promo.

I guess I'm the other one. I had V7 and M7, but not their bundles.

Soooooooo was I not invited to the party or did Vicky's birthday go by without celebration this year lol?

 

I don't know from experience, but I understood from chat here in the forums that Vicky's birthday has historically been made a banner/event and that her G8 version was "born" on 15th June 2017.  Surely 3 isn't too old for a birthday party! 

We are in July, I think there was something in June.

Yeah I know, 12th July, so we're nearly a month off her "birthday" now. I remember there was "All the Vicky's for FREE" in March or April, but no event in June unless I totally spaced and missed it ?

They did offer both the Michael and Victoria 7 Pro Bundles for $1,99 per piece for a day for PC-members, at June 1st......

 

I expect that the two people who didn't already own them took advantage of the offer.

One of these would be me. While i did already owned v7, it was only the character i grabbed during MM extension promo.

Every day is Victoria's birthday here.