In general, a clothing morph made in a 3rd party program like Hexagon, Blender or Zbrush should work fine when applied to the clothing in DS. Especially if using the DS feature of "Send to..", like the GoZ feature for Zbrush. However, I have come across situations like you describe where the morph seems to be over-ruled by something else going on in DS. One such case was when making a morph to flatten the breasts on a dress to make it suitable for a child character based on genesis 3. Normally auto fit will try to do this automatically but usually makes a pretty poor job of it, screwing up the clothing mesh quite badly. On a number of such occasions I have found that even though the morph I made in Zbrush was perfectly fitting the shape of the morphed Genesis 3 figure, when that clothing morph was applied to the clothing item in DS (via GoZ or not) the center of the chest of the clothing stood out away from the figure's chest. Even a deformer added in DS would not change this. No one could explain why this happened or what to do about it.

Perhaps it was a specific issue with the rigging of the clothing. The same may be true for the clothing you have mentioned. Sometimes DS does wierd things.

One possible way around this would be to have mesh brushes that work in real time within DS (such as those in Poser and Blender), so that you could manipulate the mesh in DS and see immediately if the results are what you want. Unfortunately, no one has made a plugin for such mesh brushes in DS yet. Personally, I think they would be very popular and would help to solve a lot of these problems. In the meantime... good luck with your outfit morphing problem.

Looks like most of the "Furries for..." add-on presets and texture additions have finally appeared in the store.  Of course, the "face poses" won't be of much use until the base "Furries for Melody" and "Furries for Micah" are finally listed as they contain the actual morph dials.

So that's why I was going mad trying to make them work just now. Thank you! I'll hope it's soon.
DAZ really should update the informationon on those pages. The pics talk about RTE still being needed, and they don't say that we need the "Furries for..."

Amusingly - or not so much: http://docs.daz3d.com/doku.php/public/read_me/index/24993/start

I had bought Furries for Melody at RDNA and it showed up in DIM, it has a new Readme - but it's not in the store ...

To said more detail, about each facial rigs, may beyond my English skill,,  

But about those eyelids rigs, I recommend, only , remove Z orientation ERC ,, if you hope to  keep X, Y, orientation.. (yes it may help sometime to arrange well with current face mesh,,

I said, there is almost no meaning add ERC about orientation Z about those facial rigs.

to be frankly said,, those eye lids arrange ment is something srange at start point,,  all eye rids node ,center point start almost same positon, then they arrange very narrow, 

it cause real difficulity when I select nodes in the 3d view, as I like, ,,, maybe DAZ think,, we use parameter with scene tab, or use expression  which daz sell, but the strong point of facial rigs

is ,,User can easy tweak detail by select and move bone t, who arrange eye lids rigs like that,  if you plan pose manually ??  (and daz do not  offer posing sheet still)

then we many buy  expression morph product .

The problem is, mostly about Gen3 facial rigs around eye.   it never happen about gen2 or gen2,, because,, only genesis3 have those facial rigs.

there are group about upper  and bottom , eylids rigs. then  about under eyelids rigs are orientate z  180 alerady.. 

(I can not see  any practical meanig, to set under eye rigs like that) 

 

 even though you select only about r eye (influenced node)  , or l eye, those rotation often return 180 to around 0,  when you adjust rigging to the shape.

then when you add morph,  those rigs rotate with Z axis.    maybe there are still some nodes,,  z orientated 180 around,, (without clear reason)    or,, about x, y. such way. then when adjust rigts to the shape,, they turn oposit. 

 

That's pretty much it. I would also add that after fiddling with it for a while I've spotted which ones get messed up. Basically, there are eight bones around each eye: inner, upper inner, upper, upper outer, outer, lower inner, lower and lower outer. Out of these the upper trio have proper behavior after ERC freeze, other prefer to perform pirouettes every time I move the dial. I've only managed to deal with them by making manual adjustments.

With SSD's there is now the M2 version that is just a chip really but transfer speads up to 10Gb/s in stead of 6 Gb/s on SATA.

Sweet! But I doubt that these older motherboards have such an interface, right? Still... it's cool how fast technology is speeding up our intense computations. Not long ago the stuff I do now would light my older machine on fire, I'm sure! Drag it down to a locked up crawl... then the flames would errupt from within!!! LOL

Looks like most of the "Furries for..." add-on presets and texture additions have finally appeared in the store.  Of course, the "face poses" won't be of much use until the base "Furries for Melody" and "Furries for Micah" are finally listed as they contain the actual morph dials.

So that's why I was going mad trying to make them work just now. Thank you! I'll hope it's soon.
DAZ really should update the informationon on those pages. The pics talk about RTE still being needed, and they don't say that we need the "Furries for..."

The link for Mortella Dress for Genesis needs to be fixed.  It reads:  http://http//www.arien-graphics.com/wp/?p=852 ; Once I removed the extra http: it worked.

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The Mortella link still doesn't work for me.  It says, "This site can't be reached.  :( "

I was pretty sure that the Mortella Dress was actually a pay item at Renderosity.  It was in my wishlist there.  And it was Poser Dynamics, I think.

Dana

By removing the duplicate http's I get this address:  www.arien-graphics.com/wp/?p=852

I do not see where it indicates any payment is required for this item.

I saw the trouble.  The original had https:, but the site does not have a certificate, so that makes it an invalid address.  It worked without the https:.  Come to find out, I have that stuff.  I guess it was the Mortessa character morph that was a pay item.

Dana

Then if you will  hope  when , demon shape appleid to character,, the morph shape  auto-applied to the cloth, , with fit to.demon character. 

there is way (usually just overwrite, generate FHM or FBM , by this morph, (you need to set morph name as  those generated character morph name (not labbeled name, but actuall morph name)  then save it as morph for clothing.  

but I may not do so, because,, sometimes you may hope to add demon shape without Geo grafted item.  just change shape with another mat,, etc.

if you overwrite the demonFBM or HFM of the cloth,,( auto imported from g2m, , when cloth fit to character) , the cloth must trun to the shape. 

then I keep the morph, as manuall (when you apply the mosnter shape with geografted, I apply this  morph manually ,  then fit shape about this character)

I was looking at the prizes from last contest and I will donate one of the $10 Gift Certificates like last time but how do I do that? Just buy it and than somehow transfer to the official contest administrator?

So the problem is when you import moprh-obj for the clothing, did  you set riverse defomation option=Yes,

I use shirt product, with demoen, G2m then see my pic, 1 is without riverse defomation, 2 is with riverse defomation.

As you know,, when I use option Yes,, I think my tweaked shape is correctly imported.

(sorry, I just make morph for one side,)

(then I really recommend,, you will try blender, if you have already played hexagon,, and hope more powerful tool,

 because,, blender is actually really powerful for those task , like make moprhs)

Hemi hasn't been in the forums for awhile but here's the link to the tutorial   

http://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/6465/the-new-centaur-n-stuff-thread-reloaded/p10     ;

scroll down to Tiger LeeArt 's post,oh and there is a morph for M4 and V4 at Philosopher's Egg's store 

For those using Laura, there's a free morph set for her at ShareCG, which is especially useful since DAZ has vaulted the Laura/Luke face and body morph sets:

http://www.sharecg.com/v/56962/gallery/11/Poser/135-Morphs-for-Laura-3

There's also a set for those who can't use PMD files:

http://www.sharecg.com/v/73761/related/11/Poser/Laura-3-Morph-Pack-CR2Diff-Beta

I don't know how that one works; I still have DS3 installed and so I just use the first one.

Also, the Laura morphs can be injected into other figures, like Luke and the Mil Baby 3. Here's a quick test render I did with the Mil3 baby using a mix of the baby morphs and the 135 Morphs for Laura 3:

I've been hunting around for advice/tutorials on creating morphs for clothing.  Everything I find deals with a base Genesis (or Genesis 2, 3, etc).  Then creating a morph around that shape using a modeler and bringing it back into Daz Studio using the Morph Loader Pro.  A great example of this is Sickleyeilds tutorial here:  http://sickleyield.deviantart.com/journal/Tutorial-Requested-Loading-Morphs-in-DAZ-Studio-450007378

My question has to do with Non-Standard or Morphed characters, particularly those with extreme changes such as RawArts Legendary Demon HD or those with GeoGraphed tails such as Roark 2.  I've tried modeling around an exported .obj of these modified characters, but (as you probably already know) they fail miserably.  Mostly because the adjustments that allow the clothing to fit to the character in the first place are reapplied, moving it.  For example, I tried using a modeler (Hexagon in this case) to move the shoulders of the GIS Emperor Coat in enough to clear the spikes.  The edge moves in, but it also increase the size of the coat by the same amount it did when it tried to AutoFit to the larger character.

So, is there any way to fit clothing to a modified character?  What's the best way if I want to create a loincloth that'll split around a tail or hood that'll allow for horns?  What model (if any) should I export as an .obj to use as a manequin?  What steps are needed to get the new or modified clothing back in without issues?

Thanks in advance for any suggestions or advice.

With SSD's there is now the M2 version that is just a chip really but transfer speads up to 10Gb/s in stead of 6 Gb/s on SATA.

Linear motions, such as drawers sliding open, can be handled by morphs - just make sure the whole drawer moves as a unit. However you will get odd rsults if you try to make a rotary motion with a morph - the item will shorten as it approaches the hallf-way point and then lengthen again. For those separate objects, or bones n a figure, are better.

The label is not the name - the label is how the item shows in the UI, but it isn't used for internal manipulations. In any event, you can't actually delete a morph from within DS once it is created, as far as I know - you would, in principle, need to find the asset file on disc and delete (or chnage the extension of) that.

hello,

is there a way to delete a morph knowing his name ?

I'm using this script to detect the name of the group where the morph belong and I get his name using getLabel

var oPaneMgr = MainWindow.getPaneMgr();
var oPane = oPaneMgr.findPane( "DzParametersPane" );
if( oPane ){
	print ("ok")
 var oEditor = oPane.getNodeEditor();
 var aProperties = oEditor.getPropertySelections( true );
 for( var i = 0; i < aProperties.length; i += 1 ){
  print( aProperties[ i ].getLabel() );
  oGroup = aProperties[ i ].getGroup()
  print( "Group : " + oGroup.name )
 }
}

thanks

The problem is, mostly about Gen3 facial rigs around eye.   it never happen about gen2 or gen2,, because,, only genesis3 have those facial rigs.

there are group about upper  and bottom , eylids rigs. then  about under eyelids rigs are orientate z  180 alerady.. 

(I can not see  any practical meanig, to set under eye rigs like that) 

 even though you select only about r eye (influenced node)  , or l eye, those rotation often return 180 to around 0,  when you adjust rigging to the shape.

then when you add morph,  those rigs rotate with Z axis.    maybe there are still some nodes,,  z orientated 180 around,, (without clear reason)    or,, about x, y. such way. then when adjust rigts to the shape,, they turn oposit. 

Yes, though obtaining a smooth transition may be tricky and you may need to adjust the rigging. To remove some vertices from one or more morphs, make them favourites by clicking the heart icon on the slider, then use the Geometry Editor tool to select the vertices (or select polygons and then convert to a vertex selection) - use the right-click menu to set the selection mode adn convert a selection between types. Once you have the morphs set as favourites and the vertices selected right-click with the Geometry Editor tool and use Morph Editing>Remove Selected Deltas from Favourites.

Another approach is to export the morphed mesh as OBJ (at base resolution), then load with Morph Loader Pro and - having selected the file to load and expanded the options - using the Attenuate options, with Overwrite Existing set to Deltas Only or Deltas and ERC if the rigging is going to need adjusting. Attentuate can use a weight map, incl;uding one you create especially for the job on a DFormer, which may help with getting a smooth result.

Just going to add in quickly- I would recommend the @Zedicuss store for poses that give you a good variety in each product. I was surprised (because I try to pick up those pose sets as often as possible) that I missed this pose set for kids / men. Just Boys Things- Poses For Teen Ryan   And the Just A Man Morph Dial Expressions are very unusual, not stiff. They look realistic, not the "perfect" expressions (I tend to use those type here simply because I'm showing the products, usually in a calm situation. If you want great action shots btw, go to SereneNight's sci-fi thread.)   Z Masculine Appeal are good for relaxed male poses.  This store also has wonderful hand poses, I have all of them I think. For MEN and women.

Gotta go get on that render.  Edit: This hoops pose product has some great swimming under water pose potential. Some wouldn't even have to be mildly tweaked.