daveso said:

I think it eye opening that new release characters, like Chloe 9, just the character, is much more expensive than what you could have gotten a Pro Bundle for not long ago. plus you have to buy the HD add to get it looking good. I'm still on buying boycott until I get an answer from my latest help ticket. Have been losing my tokens. Only 4 left. Haven't been posting either. Next step is seeya later alligator, after while crocodile. As I've said before though, I'm about washed and hung out to dry here. I will just say I've enjoyed my time overall, up to maybe the last 5 years or so. Its been slowly fading. As that famous American football player turned announcer used to sing at the end of a football game, "Turn out the lights... the party's over".

Beg to differ about the HDs... Never needed HD morphs... Ever... Unless you're doing ultrarealistic stuff, it's overhead.

Now... About those core characters, I don't know if I already posted it here or somewhere else, but they lost their leverage around G8.0~1 because, let's say, during V4 times, you needed V4 (or another base character) for almost anything. During G1~3 times, though not strictly necessary, PAs were still doing a lot of Character X for Core Character Y stuff, which, to be honest, lasted until the earlier G8 characters. Perhaps people started to notice they didn't really need those core characters unless someone wanted an exact replica of those Character X for Core Character Y as seen in their promos. One could, for instance, buy a Character X for Olympia 8 and use Victoria 8 and get not the exact but similar results. One could even just mix with another non-core character and/or resort to base/Zev0's/other similar topical morphs (in fact, since I like to create my own characters, that's exactly what I do, even though I was quite a Core Characters collector until G8, and I still buy one or another when there's a good opportunity). I wrote all that to say that those Core Characters lost their special status. Some are cool, some aren't, but they're just like other characters but over-expensive... Adding to that, they have, like, 2 or 3 base meshes for each gender, and most are just variations of the same theme with a new skin. So I get the freebies because they're included in my plan and buy the ones I think are cool when they're priced like other characters and interest me, but that's that—there's no special reason to buy them but subjective ones. So, I think the actual function of the core characters is being an incentive to subscribe to Premier while, at the same time, the free bundles will shrink so they can sell the more substantial suff as standalones or parts of other non-freebie bundles. Hopefully, it won't shrink anymore because we need at least a hair and an outfit. Otherwise, they'll have to be honest and say you'll get a free character and not a free bundle.

Charlie Judge said:

Hmm, Character and add-on bundles are getting smaller but no lower price.  Only 4 items each in the Chloe 6 Character Bundle and Addon Bundle but the price seems about the same as the Willow bundles we got a little while ago.

I just thought about that... Like, since they became Premier freebies, character bundles are shrinking... And I'd say 3½ (being generous) because I don't cound HD add-ons, since they usually come bundled in other characters for free, as an item. The good thing is I don't think it can get smaller than that...

junkgoshere said:

Any idea who Chloe 9 is based on?

Tried posting a topic but kept getting an error.

Victoria 9. As usual.

I'm lazy. I don't bother with categories, etc. Awhile ago I used DIM to remove the old generations of characters and clothes from my runtime. DIM does the work nicely.

I did a search of DIM for names such as Victoria 4, V4, Michael 4, M4, etc. I clicked "uninstall" for each individual character and their clothes. Then I chose a new folder for each character or category. I had DIM install those characters to their respective folders or runtimes.

I could have one folder or "runtime" for Generation 4, etc.

In the end I had one Runtime for Genesis figures, etc.

It's my easy and lazy way.

tagan said:

hello everyone.
is it possible to apply dforce to a victoria 4 dress ?

i added a dforce modifier, but the dress splits into many pieces, as if it was created by joining many meshes 

 

Yep, possiible, but as they already pointed out, you need to add up a weight map, and even that may not help you if you there are things like intersecting meshes -  if that is the case, maybe you can try to use meshgrabber or fit control to avoid the  intersection, or eventually trying to neutralise the effect of dForce in part of the mesh using the weight map.
  I don't remember if I already did it with something for V4, but I did it recently with something that was originally meant for Genesis 2 and I was using (with autofit clones) on G8F, and it came out great.

Richard Haseltine said:

Llola Lane said:

Richard Haseltine said:

The version I gave, in the Installed tab, would give all ExP Products - if you added Victoria 4/ to the end it would just be Victoria 4. You could find other things by using Victoria 4 or V4 in the path or file with a wildcard (*)

Thank you Richard.. I will try to figure it out this week.

Any ideas HOW I can have my Daz give the right contents for the right character?  I know I'm explaining it wrong... Here's what I asked earlier but no one has answered yet... Also... DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW TO associate content with the correct Character?  I used to be able to click V4, etc... and only V4 content would show up for her... now I look for content and EVERYTHING shows up.  It's a real pain trying to figure out what is hers and what isn't.  :(  It takes me forEVER to find stuff for Gen characters.  ALL of my Gens are doing this.  If I search for G9... I get Victoria 4, etc stuff too.  Hope this makes sense.  All was find til I did the updates about a year ago.  I'm so frustrated.

Does it have metadata (e.g. the content type tags at top-right)? If so, is  Filter By Context checked at bottom-left of the Smart Content pane?

OMG... That's it!!!!   Thank you.. not sure when but it was unchecked. I didn't even notice it.  THANK YOU... I've been asking in a few forums but no one answered.  I reeeeeeeeally appreciate your help Richard... (Leave it to a cat to have the answer! .. giggles)

Llola Lane said:

Richard Haseltine said:

The version I gave, in the Installed tab, would give all ExP Products - if you added Victoria 4/ to the end it would just be Victoria 4. You could find other things by using Victoria 4 or V4 in the path or file with a wildcard (*)

Thank you Richard.. I will try to figure it out this week.

Any ideas HOW I can have my Daz give the right contents for the right character?  I know I'm explaining it wrong... Here's what I asked earlier but no one has answered yet... Also... DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW TO associate content with the correct Character?  I used to be able to click V4, etc... and only V4 content would show up for her... now I look for content and EVERYTHING shows up.  It's a real pain trying to figure out what is hers and what isn't.  :(  It takes me forEVER to find stuff for Gen characters.  ALL of my Gens are doing this.  If I search for G9... I get Victoria 4, etc stuff too.  Hope this makes sense.  All was find til I did the updates about a year ago.  I'm so frustrated.

Does it have metadata (e.g. the content type tags at top-right)? If so, is  Filter By Context checked at bottom-left of the Smart Content pane?

Elor said:

It's sunny enough here in France, but I would not eat my breakfeast outside, considering the current temperatures Nice render though

I decided for MAY, so Living Landscape, not in the way @SimonJM did (nice one too ) so I put living beings in a landscape, as much as I could among the creatures I have in my library.

'From dusk to dawn…'

…or was it from dawn to dusk?

That’s the problem when a new Words of War’s extension is finally live: at one point, you may lose a sense of time, at least if you can immerse fully in it.

Judging by how many screenshots both Lacey and Victoria had taken, they went all in.

It started as an fantasy version of my previous render ‘It takes two to be the only one’ (which could also have worked as an entry for the challenge, with the Animal theme though) but it felt a bit too limiting and I didn't see how I could get both of them to have their own mount, so I keep some ideas (a tower on the horizon, lots of bloom, my usual duo, etc.) and started a new scene.

I scratched my head a bit to light the characters, wanting them in an overall shadowy area but still visible. I'm sure they are some tricks I don't know that can help in such a situation, but I hope you'll like the end result

As usual, all items should be list in the gallery.

 Just lovely Elor ... I say the lighting on the characters is JUST RIGHT!  Thanks for sharing.  :)

Richard Haseltine said:

The version I gave, in the Installed tab, would give all ExP Products - if you added Victoria 4/ to the end it would just be Victoria 4. You could find other things by using Victoria 4 or V4 in the path or file with a wildcard (*)

Thank you Richard.. I will try to figure it out this week.

Any ideas HOW I can have my Daz give the right contents for the right character?  I know I'm explaining it wrong... Here's what I asked earlier but no one has answered yet... Also... DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW TO associate content with the correct Character?  I used to be able to click V4, etc... and only V4 content would show up for her... now I look for content and EVERYTHING shows up.  It's a real pain trying to figure out what is hers and what isn't.  :(  It takes me forEVER to find stuff for Gen characters.  ALL of my Gens are doing this.  If I search for G9... I get Victoria 4, etc stuff too.  Hope this makes sense.  All was find til I did the updates about a year ago.  I'm so frustrated.

Elor said:

I decided for MAY, so Living Landscape, not in the way @SimonJM did (nice one too ) so I put living beings in a landscape, as much as I could among the creatures I have in my library.

'From dusk to dawn…'

…or was it from dawn to dusk?

That’s the problem when a new Words of War’s extension is finally live: at one point, you may lose a sense of time, at least if you can immerse fully in it.

Judging by how many screenshots both Lacey and Victoria had taken, they went all in.

It started as an fantasy version of my previous render ‘It takes two to be the only one’ (which could also have worked as an entry for the challenge, with the Animal theme though) but it felt a bit too limiting and I didn't see how I could get both of them to have their own mount, so I keep some ideas (a tower on the horizon, lots of bloom, my usual duo, etc.) and started a new scene.

I scratched my head a bit to light the characters, wanting them in an overall shadowy area but still visible. I'm sure they are some tricks I don't know that can help in such a situation, but I hope you'll like the end result

Really nice scene :) I agree that sometimes it's tough to light your characters when you want a darker or more shadowy look but I'd say you have done a fine job as the characters certainly stand out enough at the centre of the image.

The version I gave, in the Installed tab, would give all ExP Products - if you added Victoria 4/ to the end it would just be Victoria 4. You could find other things by using Victoria 4 or V4 in the path or file with a wildcard (*)

It does look nice with Filatoon :)

New items used in 'From dusk to dawn…':

• https://www.daz3d.com/forest-river-bridge
• https://www.daz3d.com/da-horse-and-rider-pose-set
• https://www.daz3d.com/reindeer-for-daz-horse-3

Short story:

…or was it from dawn to dusk?

That’s the problem when a new Words of War’s extension is finally live: at one point, you may lose a sense of time, at least if you can immerse fully in it.

Judging by how many screenshots both Lacey and Victoria had taken, they went all in.

As usual, all items should be list in the gallery.

It's sunny enough here in France, but I would not eat my breakfeast outside, considering the current temperatures Nice render though

I decided for MAY, so Living Landscape, not in the way @SimonJM did (nice one too ) so I put living beings in a landscape, as much as I could among the creatures I have in my library.

'From dusk to dawn…'

…or was it from dawn to dusk?

That’s the problem when a new Words of War’s extension is finally live: at one point, you may lose a sense of time, at least if you can immerse fully in it.

Judging by how many screenshots both Lacey and Victoria had taken, they went all in.

It started as an fantasy version of my previous render ‘It takes two to be the only one’ (which could also have worked as an entry for the challenge, with the Animal theme though) but it felt a bit too limiting and I didn't see how I could get both of them to have their own mount, so I keep some ideas (a tower on the horizon, lots of bloom, my usual duo, etc.) and started a new scene.

I scratched my head a bit to light the characters, wanting them in an overall shadowy area but still visible. I'm sure they are some tricks I don't know that can help in such a situation, but I hope you'll like the end result

As usual, all items should be list in the gallery.

Hi Gang... I had not thought about sorting by SKU ... problem with that is there may be some buildings, etc at the lower numbers???  If I delete them all then I'll also delete the buildings???  I have no idea HOW the SKUs are given... I look at them and it seems they are all over the place.  Does Daz reuse SKU numbers if a product gets deleted??? 

To answer some of you alls' points I have almost 20,000 items installed on my 4tb drive!  Yeah... I'm a Daz hoarder... lol.  I did buy another 4tb drive that is solid state last year but it was the biggest I could find here in Ohio at Best Buy at the time.  I like having my stuff all on one drive but it's gotten to the point where I really don't render the earlier generations much anymore so they are not really needed.  I have an old drive with them installed if I need them again. 

Also... DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW TO associate content with the correct Character?  I used to be able to click V4, etc... and only V4 content would show up for her... now I look for content and EVERYTHING shows up.  It's a real pain trying to figure out what is hers and what isn't.  :(  It takes me forEVER to find stuff for Gen characters.  ALL of my Gens are doing this.  If I search for G9... I get Victoria 4, etc stuff too.  Hope this makes sense.  All was find til I did the updates about a year ago.  I'm so frustrated.

I will keep yas posted.. Thanks... any further help suggestions will be MUCH appreciated.  Stay well one and all.  hugzzzzzzzzz

Elliandra said:

Pretty sure the skin used is HID Ariel for Genesis 9

I tried this out, the skin is close - but I can confirm its niether the default victoria face shape (I dont think) or that skin.

A good discount came my way, and I now have it installed.  My test scene has mixed emissive surfaces, an added spotlight, and a colorized environment, the default ruins HDR.

• Mega Terrains: Winter Edition
• PW Space Ship
• Victoria 8
• Bronwyn Hair for Genesis 3 & 8 Female(s)
• Stealth Siren Outfit for Genesis 8 Female(s)
• Sci Fi Hand Gadgets 2

This is before-and-after using Light Manager to lower the lights and environment by 0.01% to produce usable HDR output.

So with higher exposure, the environment came out correct, the ship's emissives got brighter, the suit's got way dimmer, and the spotlight's practically gone.  It's not a quick fix, but it will still be a great time saver, hunting down all the important light sources for me.  Finding them all was the slow part.

Thatks for the useful tip.

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Hallelujah!
Disciple

Elliandra said:

Pretty sure the skin used is HID Ariel for Genesis 9

Thank you. I hadn't thought about the possibility that it is indeed Victoria 9 but with the skin of a different character. It's unfortunate that I don't have Ariel in my library to try. Well, to my wishlist she goes.

I thought it might have been https://www.daz3d.com/victoria-9-hd-makeup but as you say no freckles...  Will see if I can replicate using Ariel!   Thanks!

Elliandra said:

@Anonymous Poster - IIRC it is Victoria 9 and ChevyBabe25's Kunoichi Updo

Thank you. That updo looks great and I'm wishlisting it right away. :) No, forget that. It happens that I already have Kaede 9 HD Character Bundle wishlisted. :) However, I agree with Anonymous Poster that she does not look like Victoria 9 much, though. Perhaps it's Victoria's skin on a different model. That's assuming that Victoria 9's freckles are optional, since the model in the promo does not look freckled. I wouldn't know since I haven't worked with Victoria much yet.

At any rate, the art is by Cake One. At least, that's what Daz Studio says. I even tried browsing her catalog to see if I could find the model, but to no avail.

Elliandra said:

@Anonymous Poster - IIRC it is Victoria 9 and ChevyBabe25's Kunoichi Updo

Thank you - she looks very different from Victoria 9, might be a skill issue on my part :D  Any tips would be greatly appreciated!!

@Anonymous Poster - IIRC it is Victoria 9 and ChevyBabe25's Kunoichi Updo