Is it possible to dynamically load a morph?

This is a hypothetical example.

Load a base figure in Daz (G9, for example).

Apply a character morph, let's call it ABC Jane Doe 9. (Totally made up)

Daz does its thing and the figure now looks just like a textureless ABC Jane Doe 9 from whatever store Jane comes from.

Save the scene and close Daz.

Go into the /data directory and move all the ABC Jane Doe 9 morphs outside of the Daz content library.

Restart DAZ and load the scene. Jane won't be looking like herself

Is there anyway, at this point, to point Daz at the morphs (currently sitting outside the content library) and have them applied to Jane?

PoshTentacle said:

RiverSoft Art said:

PoshTentacle said:

RiverSoft Art said:

PoshTentacle said:

RiverSoft Art said:

PoshTentacle said:

RiverSoft Art said:

PoshTentacle said:

So I tried using Turbo Loader recently to improve my figure loading speed, and unfortunately, it broke my most-used character preset. Basically, in any scene that I have created that contains that character, one of its most important morphs defaults to 0%. According to the logs, the morph itself is loading, but the morph value is not.

Unfortunately, due to the fact that when loading a scene, morphs are loaded and then poses, I can't just load the broken scene and move the morph sliders back to 100% because it will distort the pose. The only way I have found to keep the exact pose is for me to re-create the broken character preset, load a fresh copy into the scene with the broken figure, and then copy the pose from the broken figure to the one with the correct morph. This will take a huge amount of time by reloading the character into every one of my broken scenes.

I tried resetting all the changes made by Turbo Loader using the "Reset Morph Directory" and "Reset Content Directories" buttons, but this did not resolve the issue.

Edit: Also, I haven't re-saved any of the scenes since the issue appeared in hopes that if I didn't save it, the scenes would still be fixable

Have you searched your HDD for *.tlOff files? That is what TL changes the extension to in order to turn off the morph. Reset Content Directories renames all morphs back to their .dsf extension. If you cannot find any .tlOff files, then the scenes should work as far as what TL did. 

I did not find any .tlOff files. Is there maybe a cache or something that I need to refresh/empty after I reset all the morphs to their original state? Also, here are the error lines in the log that may help shine a light on things.

2026-05-11 11:01:50.533 [WARNING] :: \src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(595): Formula output property not found:
File: /data/Daz 3D/Genesis 9/Base/Morphs/Jepe/JP Sandor HD/JP Sandor HD.dsf
URI: Genesis9:/data/Daz%203D/Genesis%209/Base/Morphs/Jepe/JP%20Sandor%20HD/JP%20Sandor%20Head.dsf#JP%20Sandor%20Head-0xa95d2ce?value

2026-05-11 11:01:50.533 [WARNING] :: \src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(595): Formula output property not found:
File: /data/Daz 3D/Genesis 9/Base/Morphs/Jepe/JP Sandor HD/JP Sandor HD.dsf
URI: Genesis9:/data/Daz%203D/Genesis%209/Base/Morphs/Jepe/JP%20Sandor%20HD/JP%20Sandor%20Body.dsf#JP%20Sandor%20Body-0xa95d473?value

Just to repeat for clarity, the morph itself is loading, but the value of the morph is now missing.  

Edit: Idk why that quote block is so hard to read, so here is the same message in regular text form:

 

2026-05-11 11:01:50.533 [WARNING] :: \src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(595): Formula output property not found:

File: /data/Daz 3D/Genesis 9/Base/Morphs/Jepe/JP Sandor HD/JP Sandor HD.dsf

URI: Genesis9:/data/Daz%203D/Genesis%209/Base/Morphs/Jepe/JP%20Sandor%20HD/JP%20Sandor%20Head.dsf#JP%20Sandor%20Head-0xa95d2ce?value

 

2026-05-11 11:01:50.533 [WARNING] :: \src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(595): Formula output property not found:

File: /data/Daz 3D/Genesis 9/Base/Morphs/Jepe/JP Sandor HD/JP Sandor HD.dsf

URI: Genesis9:/data/Daz%203D/Genesis%209/Base/Morphs/Jepe/JP%20Sandor%20HD/JP%20Sandor%20Body.dsf#JP%20Sandor%20Body-0xa95d473?value

Once the .tlOff files are gone, TL effects are gone. Did you install products lately?

 

Yes, I have installed products lately. I even reinstalled the JP Sandor character in hopes of fixing the issue, but unfortunately, it didn't solve anything. 

You need to look at those products then for the problem. The TL shouldn't be the problem once you reverted everything - I don't see how it could. All it does is rename files and you renamed them back. It's possible that re-installing JP Sandor (perhaps it was updated?) between the original TL rename to tlOff could have hurt its installation, e.g., Sandor Original Morph -> TL Sandor Original Morph.tlOff -> Sandor Updated Morph -> overwritten by Sandor Original Morph? Or maybe you tried to do something with the metadata while Sandor was off and the metadata has locked in the idea that those morphs are missing files, which have now been restored? I am reaching here, but the original TL is not in the equation anymore.

Using Turbo Loader's reset function was something I did before reinstalling JP Sandor, so that shouldn't be a factor either. All I know is that before I used Turbo Loader to optimize my morph collection, everything was working fine, and afterward, the character was broken - even in scenes that I saved months before ever installing Turbo Loader. I've been communicating with support, and I'm trying to find out if I can edit the morph values in the DSON files directly to avoid having to reload the character into every single broken scene. *Sigh* Turbo Loader was a promising product, too. It's a shame that fixing the errors that started with it is going to cost me days of work. 

I am sorry you are having difficulty. I wish I could help you.

One last question! After messing around with the Victoria chatbot on the Daz3d website, I found out that what is broken is the controller for the morph. Is that a problem you ever see with Turbo Loader? For example, in this case, JP Sandor HD controls two other morphs: JP Sandor Body and JP Sandor Head. JP Sandor HD being set at 100% should influence those other two morphs to be the same value, but it is leaving them at 0%.

With this product, no. (With my character converters, yes, DS has (or maybe had) a bug where it wouldn't find the dependent morph when I saved the controller property, but that is a different thing). Have you tried editing that controller yourself? If it looks like garbage characters in a text editor, that is just the compression. Use 7-zip to open the file (it is just a zip file) and inside that is the actual file to edit.

automaticcolors said:

crashworship said:

Leana said:

mjmeyer said:

b) Is DAZ Studio 6 only a temporary trial version and will I have to subscribe to an expensive plan to really use it?

No, it's not. It works like DS4 did, there's a free version and if you're a Premier member you have access to more features.

"Premier member you have access to more features" 

Eventually, because I've discovered that even though the the Premier plugins have been installed, they are unavailable, at least on my Mac version. No auto save, no pose conversion, no face transfer, no geometry sculpting, no shape transfer. Or, all the things I upgraded to Premier to have available. Daz sure does want you to use that AI feature though. Really wants you to. Why is that? 

Geometry Sculptor is working correctly on my system.
Environment: M5 MacBook, 16 GB RAM, DAZ Studio 6.25.2026.14722.

Did you login; Connect - Login? It needs to be authorized to be enabled.

crashworship said:

Leana said:

mjmeyer said:

b) Is DAZ Studio 6 only a temporary trial version and will I have to subscribe to an expensive plan to really use it?

No, it's not. It works like DS4 did, there's a free version and if you're a Premier member you have access to more features.

"Premier member you have access to more features" 

Eventually, because I've discovered that even though the the Premier plugins have been installed, they are unavailable, at least on my Mac version. No auto save, no pose conversion, no face transfer, no geometry sculpting, no shape transfer. Or, all the things I upgraded to Premier to have available. Daz sure does want you to use that AI feature though. Really wants you to. Why is that? 

Geometry Sculptor is working correctly on my system.
Environment: M5 MacBook, 16 GB RAM, DAZ Studio 6.25.2026.14722.

As I do not plan to upgrade to Daz 6 at the moment, I hope the great Diffeomorphic tools stay compatible with Daz 4.23. Thanks for providing such a great tool.

Started to transfer all my assets starting with V4.2 and M4 to G8 and then to Blender 5.1.2. Refine the stuff in Blender and create a huge asset library. Daz 6 just doesn't provide anything helpful here. Just problems with older stuff and scripts.

3D Universe said:

Regardless, a lot of the scripting for DS4 doesn't work in DS6 due to the changes to the scripting engine. It will take time to update these scripts. They were created for DS4. 

That makes no sense to me if you are replying to the Finger Focus problems.

• Finger Focus is not a script.
• Finger Focus problems are morph problems.
• The Finger Focus problems were identified in DS 4.24, not DS6. 

RiverSoft Art said:

PoshTentacle said:

RiverSoft Art said:

PoshTentacle said:

RiverSoft Art said:

PoshTentacle said:

RiverSoft Art said:

PoshTentacle said:

So I tried using Turbo Loader recently to improve my figure loading speed, and unfortunately, it broke my most-used character preset. Basically, in any scene that I have created that contains that character, one of its most important morphs defaults to 0%. According to the logs, the morph itself is loading, but the morph value is not.

Unfortunately, due to the fact that when loading a scene, morphs are loaded and then poses, I can't just load the broken scene and move the morph sliders back to 100% because it will distort the pose. The only way I have found to keep the exact pose is for me to re-create the broken character preset, load a fresh copy into the scene with the broken figure, and then copy the pose from the broken figure to the one with the correct morph. This will take a huge amount of time by reloading the character into every one of my broken scenes.

I tried resetting all the changes made by Turbo Loader using the "Reset Morph Directory" and "Reset Content Directories" buttons, but this did not resolve the issue.

Edit: Also, I haven't re-saved any of the scenes since the issue appeared in hopes that if I didn't save it, the scenes would still be fixable

Have you searched your HDD for *.tlOff files? That is what TL changes the extension to in order to turn off the morph. Reset Content Directories renames all morphs back to their .dsf extension. If you cannot find any .tlOff files, then the scenes should work as far as what TL did. 

I did not find any .tlOff files. Is there maybe a cache or something that I need to refresh/empty after I reset all the morphs to their original state? Also, here are the error lines in the log that may help shine a light on things.

2026-05-11 11:01:50.533 [WARNING] :: \src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(595): Formula output property not found:
File: /data/Daz 3D/Genesis 9/Base/Morphs/Jepe/JP Sandor HD/JP Sandor HD.dsf
URI: Genesis9:/data/Daz%203D/Genesis%209/Base/Morphs/Jepe/JP%20Sandor%20HD/JP%20Sandor%20Head.dsf#JP%20Sandor%20Head-0xa95d2ce?value

2026-05-11 11:01:50.533 [WARNING] :: \src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(595): Formula output property not found:
File: /data/Daz 3D/Genesis 9/Base/Morphs/Jepe/JP Sandor HD/JP Sandor HD.dsf
URI: Genesis9:/data/Daz%203D/Genesis%209/Base/Morphs/Jepe/JP%20Sandor%20HD/JP%20Sandor%20Body.dsf#JP%20Sandor%20Body-0xa95d473?value

Just to repeat for clarity, the morph itself is loading, but the value of the morph is now missing.  

Edit: Idk why that quote block is so hard to read, so here is the same message in regular text form:

 

2026-05-11 11:01:50.533 [WARNING] :: \src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(595): Formula output property not found:

File: /data/Daz 3D/Genesis 9/Base/Morphs/Jepe/JP Sandor HD/JP Sandor HD.dsf

URI: Genesis9:/data/Daz%203D/Genesis%209/Base/Morphs/Jepe/JP%20Sandor%20HD/JP%20Sandor%20Head.dsf#JP%20Sandor%20Head-0xa95d2ce?value

 

2026-05-11 11:01:50.533 [WARNING] :: \src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(595): Formula output property not found:

File: /data/Daz 3D/Genesis 9/Base/Morphs/Jepe/JP Sandor HD/JP Sandor HD.dsf

URI: Genesis9:/data/Daz%203D/Genesis%209/Base/Morphs/Jepe/JP%20Sandor%20HD/JP%20Sandor%20Body.dsf#JP%20Sandor%20Body-0xa95d473?value

Once the .tlOff files are gone, TL effects are gone. Did you install products lately?

 

Yes, I have installed products lately. I even reinstalled the JP Sandor character in hopes of fixing the issue, but unfortunately, it didn't solve anything. 

You need to look at those products then for the problem. The TL shouldn't be the problem once you reverted everything - I don't see how it could. All it does is rename files and you renamed them back. It's possible that re-installing JP Sandor (perhaps it was updated?) between the original TL rename to tlOff could have hurt its installation, e.g., Sandor Original Morph -> TL Sandor Original Morph.tlOff -> Sandor Updated Morph -> overwritten by Sandor Original Morph? Or maybe you tried to do something with the metadata while Sandor was off and the metadata has locked in the idea that those morphs are missing files, which have now been restored? I am reaching here, but the original TL is not in the equation anymore.

Using Turbo Loader's reset function was something I did before reinstalling JP Sandor, so that shouldn't be a factor either. All I know is that before I used Turbo Loader to optimize my morph collection, everything was working fine, and afterward, the character was broken - even in scenes that I saved months before ever installing Turbo Loader. I've been communicating with support, and I'm trying to find out if I can edit the morph values in the DSON files directly to avoid having to reload the character into every single broken scene. *Sigh* Turbo Loader was a promising product, too. It's a shame that fixing the errors that started with it is going to cost me days of work. 

I am sorry you are having difficulty. I wish I could help you.

One last question! After messing around with the Victoria chatbot on the Daz3d website, I found out that what is broken is the controller for the morph. Is that a problem you ever see with Turbo Loader? For example, in this case, JP Sandor HD controls two other morphs: JP Sandor Body and JP Sandor Head. JP Sandor HD being set at 100% should influence those other two morphs to be the same value, but it is leaving them at 0%.

RiverSoft Art said:

PoshTentacle said:

RiverSoft Art said:

PoshTentacle said:

RiverSoft Art said:

PoshTentacle said:

RiverSoft Art said:

PoshTentacle said:

So I tried using Turbo Loader recently to improve my figure loading speed, and unfortunately, it broke my most-used character preset. Basically, in any scene that I have created that contains that character, one of its most important morphs defaults to 0%. According to the logs, the morph itself is loading, but the morph value is not.

Unfortunately, due to the fact that when loading a scene, morphs are loaded and then poses, I can't just load the broken scene and move the morph sliders back to 100% because it will distort the pose. The only way I have found to keep the exact pose is for me to re-create the broken character preset, load a fresh copy into the scene with the broken figure, and then copy the pose from the broken figure to the one with the correct morph. This will take a huge amount of time by reloading the character into every one of my broken scenes.

I tried resetting all the changes made by Turbo Loader using the "Reset Morph Directory" and "Reset Content Directories" buttons, but this did not resolve the issue.

Edit: Also, I haven't re-saved any of the scenes since the issue appeared in hopes that if I didn't save it, the scenes would still be fixable

Have you searched your HDD for *.tlOff files? That is what TL changes the extension to in order to turn off the morph. Reset Content Directories renames all morphs back to their .dsf extension. If you cannot find any .tlOff files, then the scenes should work as far as what TL did. 

I did not find any .tlOff files. Is there maybe a cache or something that I need to refresh/empty after I reset all the morphs to their original state? Also, here are the error lines in the log that may help shine a light on things.

2026-05-11 11:01:50.533 [WARNING] :: \src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(595): Formula output property not found:
File: /data/Daz 3D/Genesis 9/Base/Morphs/Jepe/JP Sandor HD/JP Sandor HD.dsf
URI: Genesis9:/data/Daz%203D/Genesis%209/Base/Morphs/Jepe/JP%20Sandor%20HD/JP%20Sandor%20Head.dsf#JP%20Sandor%20Head-0xa95d2ce?value

2026-05-11 11:01:50.533 [WARNING] :: \src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(595): Formula output property not found:
File: /data/Daz 3D/Genesis 9/Base/Morphs/Jepe/JP Sandor HD/JP Sandor HD.dsf
URI: Genesis9:/data/Daz%203D/Genesis%209/Base/Morphs/Jepe/JP%20Sandor%20HD/JP%20Sandor%20Body.dsf#JP%20Sandor%20Body-0xa95d473?value

Just to repeat for clarity, the morph itself is loading, but the value of the morph is now missing.  

Edit: Idk why that quote block is so hard to read, so here is the same message in regular text form:

 

2026-05-11 11:01:50.533 [WARNING] :: \src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(595): Formula output property not found:

File: /data/Daz 3D/Genesis 9/Base/Morphs/Jepe/JP Sandor HD/JP Sandor HD.dsf

URI: Genesis9:/data/Daz%203D/Genesis%209/Base/Morphs/Jepe/JP%20Sandor%20HD/JP%20Sandor%20Head.dsf#JP%20Sandor%20Head-0xa95d2ce?value

 

2026-05-11 11:01:50.533 [WARNING] :: \src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(595): Formula output property not found:

File: /data/Daz 3D/Genesis 9/Base/Morphs/Jepe/JP Sandor HD/JP Sandor HD.dsf

URI: Genesis9:/data/Daz%203D/Genesis%209/Base/Morphs/Jepe/JP%20Sandor%20HD/JP%20Sandor%20Body.dsf#JP%20Sandor%20Body-0xa95d473?value

Once the .tlOff files are gone, TL effects are gone. Did you install products lately?

 

Yes, I have installed products lately. I even reinstalled the JP Sandor character in hopes of fixing the issue, but unfortunately, it didn't solve anything. 

You need to look at those products then for the problem. The TL shouldn't be the problem once you reverted everything - I don't see how it could. All it does is rename files and you renamed them back. It's possible that re-installing JP Sandor (perhaps it was updated?) between the original TL rename to tlOff could have hurt its installation, e.g., Sandor Original Morph -> TL Sandor Original Morph.tlOff -> Sandor Updated Morph -> overwritten by Sandor Original Morph? Or maybe you tried to do something with the metadata while Sandor was off and the metadata has locked in the idea that those morphs are missing files, which have now been restored? I am reaching here, but the original TL is not in the equation anymore.

Using Turbo Loader's reset function was something I did before reinstalling JP Sandor, so that shouldn't be a factor either. All I know is that before I used Turbo Loader to optimize my morph collection, everything was working fine, and afterward, the character was broken - even in scenes that I saved months before ever installing Turbo Loader. I've been communicating with support, and I'm trying to find out if I can edit the morph values in the DSON files directly to avoid having to reload the character into every single broken scene. *Sigh* Turbo Loader was a promising product, too. It's a shame that fixing the errors that started with it is going to cost me days of work. 

I am sorry you are having difficulty. I wish I could help you.

One last question! After messing around with the Victoria chatbot on the Daz3d website, I found out that what is broken is the controller for the morph. Is that a problem you ever see with Turbo Loader? For example, in this case, JP Sandor HD controls two other morphs: JP Sandor Body and JP Sandor Head. JP Sandor HD being set at 100% should influence those other two morphs to be the same value, but it is leaving them at 0%.

Crios said:

Non ricordo una cosa, anche perchè non posso controllare in quanto ho una UV map creata da X Transfer, ma G8 può usare nativamente le texture di G3?

Sì, senza problemi. 

3DIO said:

Haven't read the whole thread, so this might have already been pointed out.  But I've noticed that some products that use JCM, also have an influence slider somewhere under Parameters.  They basically look like any other morph slider, but act as a master influence value to control how much influence a specific set of JCMs have upon the figure.

Finger Focus has such a slider, but that doesn't fix any of the morph errors in the product, unfortunately. I did submit a help request about the problems.

PoshTentacle said:

RiverSoft Art said:

PoshTentacle said:

RiverSoft Art said:

PoshTentacle said:

RiverSoft Art said:

PoshTentacle said:

So I tried using Turbo Loader recently to improve my figure loading speed, and unfortunately, it broke my most-used character preset. Basically, in any scene that I have created that contains that character, one of its most important morphs defaults to 0%. According to the logs, the morph itself is loading, but the morph value is not.

Unfortunately, due to the fact that when loading a scene, morphs are loaded and then poses, I can't just load the broken scene and move the morph sliders back to 100% because it will distort the pose. The only way I have found to keep the exact pose is for me to re-create the broken character preset, load a fresh copy into the scene with the broken figure, and then copy the pose from the broken figure to the one with the correct morph. This will take a huge amount of time by reloading the character into every one of my broken scenes.

I tried resetting all the changes made by Turbo Loader using the "Reset Morph Directory" and "Reset Content Directories" buttons, but this did not resolve the issue.

Edit: Also, I haven't re-saved any of the scenes since the issue appeared in hopes that if I didn't save it, the scenes would still be fixable

Have you searched your HDD for *.tlOff files? That is what TL changes the extension to in order to turn off the morph. Reset Content Directories renames all morphs back to their .dsf extension. If you cannot find any .tlOff files, then the scenes should work as far as what TL did. 

I did not find any .tlOff files. Is there maybe a cache or something that I need to refresh/empty after I reset all the morphs to their original state? Also, here are the error lines in the log that may help shine a light on things.

2026-05-11 11:01:50.533 [WARNING] :: \src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(595): Formula output property not found:
File: /data/Daz 3D/Genesis 9/Base/Morphs/Jepe/JP Sandor HD/JP Sandor HD.dsf
URI: Genesis9:/data/Daz%203D/Genesis%209/Base/Morphs/Jepe/JP%20Sandor%20HD/JP%20Sandor%20Head.dsf#JP%20Sandor%20Head-0xa95d2ce?value

2026-05-11 11:01:50.533 [WARNING] :: \src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(595): Formula output property not found:
File: /data/Daz 3D/Genesis 9/Base/Morphs/Jepe/JP Sandor HD/JP Sandor HD.dsf
URI: Genesis9:/data/Daz%203D/Genesis%209/Base/Morphs/Jepe/JP%20Sandor%20HD/JP%20Sandor%20Body.dsf#JP%20Sandor%20Body-0xa95d473?value

Just to repeat for clarity, the morph itself is loading, but the value of the morph is now missing.  

Edit: Idk why that quote block is so hard to read, so here is the same message in regular text form:

 

2026-05-11 11:01:50.533 [WARNING] :: \src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(595): Formula output property not found:

File: /data/Daz 3D/Genesis 9/Base/Morphs/Jepe/JP Sandor HD/JP Sandor HD.dsf

URI: Genesis9:/data/Daz%203D/Genesis%209/Base/Morphs/Jepe/JP%20Sandor%20HD/JP%20Sandor%20Head.dsf#JP%20Sandor%20Head-0xa95d2ce?value

 

2026-05-11 11:01:50.533 [WARNING] :: \src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(595): Formula output property not found:

File: /data/Daz 3D/Genesis 9/Base/Morphs/Jepe/JP Sandor HD/JP Sandor HD.dsf

URI: Genesis9:/data/Daz%203D/Genesis%209/Base/Morphs/Jepe/JP%20Sandor%20HD/JP%20Sandor%20Body.dsf#JP%20Sandor%20Body-0xa95d473?value

Once the .tlOff files are gone, TL effects are gone. Did you install products lately?

 

Yes, I have installed products lately. I even reinstalled the JP Sandor character in hopes of fixing the issue, but unfortunately, it didn't solve anything. 

You need to look at those products then for the problem. The TL shouldn't be the problem once you reverted everything - I don't see how it could. All it does is rename files and you renamed them back. It's possible that re-installing JP Sandor (perhaps it was updated?) between the original TL rename to tlOff could have hurt its installation, e.g., Sandor Original Morph -> TL Sandor Original Morph.tlOff -> Sandor Updated Morph -> overwritten by Sandor Original Morph? Or maybe you tried to do something with the metadata while Sandor was off and the metadata has locked in the idea that those morphs are missing files, which have now been restored? I am reaching here, but the original TL is not in the equation anymore.

Using Turbo Loader's reset function was something I did before reinstalling JP Sandor, so that shouldn't be a factor either. All I know is that before I used Turbo Loader to optimize my morph collection, everything was working fine, and afterward, the character was broken - even in scenes that I saved months before ever installing Turbo Loader. I've been communicating with support, and I'm trying to find out if I can edit the morph values in the DSON files directly to avoid having to reload the character into every single broken scene. *Sigh* Turbo Loader was a promising product, too. It's a shame that fixing the errors that started with it is going to cost me days of work. 

I am sorry you are having difficulty. I wish I could help you.

RiverSoft Art said:

PoshTentacle said:

RiverSoft Art said:

PoshTentacle said:

RiverSoft Art said:

PoshTentacle said:

So I tried using Turbo Loader recently to improve my figure loading speed, and unfortunately, it broke my most-used character preset. Basically, in any scene that I have created that contains that character, one of its most important morphs defaults to 0%. According to the logs, the morph itself is loading, but the morph value is not.

Unfortunately, due to the fact that when loading a scene, morphs are loaded and then poses, I can't just load the broken scene and move the morph sliders back to 100% because it will distort the pose. The only way I have found to keep the exact pose is for me to re-create the broken character preset, load a fresh copy into the scene with the broken figure, and then copy the pose from the broken figure to the one with the correct morph. This will take a huge amount of time by reloading the character into every one of my broken scenes.

I tried resetting all the changes made by Turbo Loader using the "Reset Morph Directory" and "Reset Content Directories" buttons, but this did not resolve the issue.

Edit: Also, I haven't re-saved any of the scenes since the issue appeared in hopes that if I didn't save it, the scenes would still be fixable

Have you searched your HDD for *.tlOff files? That is what TL changes the extension to in order to turn off the morph. Reset Content Directories renames all morphs back to their .dsf extension. If you cannot find any .tlOff files, then the scenes should work as far as what TL did. 

I did not find any .tlOff files. Is there maybe a cache or something that I need to refresh/empty after I reset all the morphs to their original state? Also, here are the error lines in the log that may help shine a light on things.

2026-05-11 11:01:50.533 [WARNING] :: \src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(595): Formula output property not found:
File: /data/Daz 3D/Genesis 9/Base/Morphs/Jepe/JP Sandor HD/JP Sandor HD.dsf
URI: Genesis9:/data/Daz%203D/Genesis%209/Base/Morphs/Jepe/JP%20Sandor%20HD/JP%20Sandor%20Head.dsf#JP%20Sandor%20Head-0xa95d2ce?value

2026-05-11 11:01:50.533 [WARNING] :: \src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(595): Formula output property not found:
File: /data/Daz 3D/Genesis 9/Base/Morphs/Jepe/JP Sandor HD/JP Sandor HD.dsf
URI: Genesis9:/data/Daz%203D/Genesis%209/Base/Morphs/Jepe/JP%20Sandor%20HD/JP%20Sandor%20Body.dsf#JP%20Sandor%20Body-0xa95d473?value

Just to repeat for clarity, the morph itself is loading, but the value of the morph is now missing.  

Edit: Idk why that quote block is so hard to read, so here is the same message in regular text form:

 

2026-05-11 11:01:50.533 [WARNING] :: \src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(595): Formula output property not found:

File: /data/Daz 3D/Genesis 9/Base/Morphs/Jepe/JP Sandor HD/JP Sandor HD.dsf

URI: Genesis9:/data/Daz%203D/Genesis%209/Base/Morphs/Jepe/JP%20Sandor%20HD/JP%20Sandor%20Head.dsf#JP%20Sandor%20Head-0xa95d2ce?value

 

2026-05-11 11:01:50.533 [WARNING] :: \src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(595): Formula output property not found:

File: /data/Daz 3D/Genesis 9/Base/Morphs/Jepe/JP Sandor HD/JP Sandor HD.dsf

URI: Genesis9:/data/Daz%203D/Genesis%209/Base/Morphs/Jepe/JP%20Sandor%20HD/JP%20Sandor%20Body.dsf#JP%20Sandor%20Body-0xa95d473?value

Once the .tlOff files are gone, TL effects are gone. Did you install products lately?

 

Yes, I have installed products lately. I even reinstalled the JP Sandor character in hopes of fixing the issue, but unfortunately, it didn't solve anything. 

You need to look at those products then for the problem. The TL shouldn't be the problem once you reverted everything - I don't see how it could. All it does is rename files and you renamed them back. It's possible that re-installing JP Sandor (perhaps it was updated?) between the original TL rename to tlOff could have hurt its installation, e.g., Sandor Original Morph -> TL Sandor Original Morph.tlOff -> Sandor Updated Morph -> overwritten by Sandor Original Morph? Or maybe you tried to do something with the metadata while Sandor was off and the metadata has locked in the idea that those morphs are missing files, which have now been restored? I am reaching here, but the original TL is not in the equation anymore.

Using Turbo Loader's reset function was something I did before reinstalling JP Sandor, so that shouldn't be a factor either. All I know is that before I used Turbo Loader to optimize my morph collection, everything was working fine, and afterward, the character was broken - even in scenes that I saved months before ever installing Turbo Loader. I've been communicating with support, and I'm trying to find out if I can edit the morph values in the DSON files directly to avoid having to reload the character into every single broken scene. *Sigh* Turbo Loader was a promising product, too. It's a shame that fixing the errors that started with it is going to cost me days of work. 

RiverSoft Art said:

PoshTentacle said:

RiverSoft Art said:

PoshTentacle said:

RiverSoft Art said:

PoshTentacle said:

So I tried using Turbo Loader recently to improve my figure loading speed, and unfortunately, it broke my most-used character preset. Basically, in any scene that I have created that contains that character, one of its most important morphs defaults to 0%. According to the logs, the morph itself is loading, but the morph value is not.

Unfortunately, due to the fact that when loading a scene, morphs are loaded and then poses, I can't just load the broken scene and move the morph sliders back to 100% because it will distort the pose. The only way I have found to keep the exact pose is for me to re-create the broken character preset, load a fresh copy into the scene with the broken figure, and then copy the pose from the broken figure to the one with the correct morph. This will take a huge amount of time by reloading the character into every one of my broken scenes.

I tried resetting all the changes made by Turbo Loader using the "Reset Morph Directory" and "Reset Content Directories" buttons, but this did not resolve the issue.

Edit: Also, I haven't re-saved any of the scenes since the issue appeared in hopes that if I didn't save it, the scenes would still be fixable

Have you searched your HDD for *.tlOff files? That is what TL changes the extension to in order to turn off the morph. Reset Content Directories renames all morphs back to their .dsf extension. If you cannot find any .tlOff files, then the scenes should work as far as what TL did. 

I did not find any .tlOff files. Is there maybe a cache or something that I need to refresh/empty after I reset all the morphs to their original state? Also, here are the error lines in the log that may help shine a light on things.

2026-05-11 11:01:50.533 [WARNING] :: \src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(595): Formula output property not found:
File: /data/Daz 3D/Genesis 9/Base/Morphs/Jepe/JP Sandor HD/JP Sandor HD.dsf
URI: Genesis9:/data/Daz%203D/Genesis%209/Base/Morphs/Jepe/JP%20Sandor%20HD/JP%20Sandor%20Head.dsf#JP%20Sandor%20Head-0xa95d2ce?value

2026-05-11 11:01:50.533 [WARNING] :: \src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(595): Formula output property not found:
File: /data/Daz 3D/Genesis 9/Base/Morphs/Jepe/JP Sandor HD/JP Sandor HD.dsf
URI: Genesis9:/data/Daz%203D/Genesis%209/Base/Morphs/Jepe/JP%20Sandor%20HD/JP%20Sandor%20Body.dsf#JP%20Sandor%20Body-0xa95d473?value

Just to repeat for clarity, the morph itself is loading, but the value of the morph is now missing.  

Edit: Idk why that quote block is so hard to read, so here is the same message in regular text form:

 

2026-05-11 11:01:50.533 [WARNING] :: \src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(595): Formula output property not found:

File: /data/Daz 3D/Genesis 9/Base/Morphs/Jepe/JP Sandor HD/JP Sandor HD.dsf

URI: Genesis9:/data/Daz%203D/Genesis%209/Base/Morphs/Jepe/JP%20Sandor%20HD/JP%20Sandor%20Head.dsf#JP%20Sandor%20Head-0xa95d2ce?value

 

2026-05-11 11:01:50.533 [WARNING] :: \src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(595): Formula output property not found:

File: /data/Daz 3D/Genesis 9/Base/Morphs/Jepe/JP Sandor HD/JP Sandor HD.dsf

URI: Genesis9:/data/Daz%203D/Genesis%209/Base/Morphs/Jepe/JP%20Sandor%20HD/JP%20Sandor%20Body.dsf#JP%20Sandor%20Body-0xa95d473?value

Once the .tlOff files are gone, TL effects are gone. Did you install products lately?

 

Yes, I have installed products lately. I even reinstalled the JP Sandor character in hopes of fixing the issue, but unfortunately, it didn't solve anything. 

You need to look at those products then for the problem. The TL shouldn't be the problem once you reverted everything - I don't see how it could. All it does is rename files and you renamed them back. It's possible that re-installing JP Sandor (perhaps it was updated?) between the original TL rename to tlOff could have hurt its installation, e.g., Sandor Original Morph -> TL Sandor Original Morph.tlOff -> Sandor Updated Morph -> overwritten by Sandor Original Morph? Or maybe you tried to do something with the metadata while Sandor was off and the metadata has locked in the idea that those morphs are missing files, which have now been restored? I am reaching here, but the original TL is not in the equation anymore.

Using Turbo Loader's reset function was something I did before reinstalling JP Sandor, so that shouldn't be a factor either. All I know is that before I used Turbo Loader to optimize my morph collection, everything was working fine, and afterward, the character was broken - even in scenes that I saved months before ever installing Turbo Loader. I've been communicating with support, and I'm trying to find out if I can edit the morph values in the DSON files directly to avoid having to reload the character into every single broken scene. *Sigh* Turbo Loader was a promising product, too. It's a shame that fixing the errors that started with it is going to cost me days of work. 

Non ricordo una cosa, anche perchè non posso controllare in quanto ho una UV map creata da X Transfer, ma G8 può usare nativamente le texture di G3?

blue_ said:

Things are starting to become clearer now. I had previously assumed that Victoria 4 was both a Daz Studio and a Poser Figure. It’s good to know that she is strictly a Poser Figure. Are there any Functions that don't work when using Victoria 4 in Daz Studio but do work in Poser?

V4 is indeed primarily a poser figure. She's the first of the Daz figures which was provided with Daz Studio materials (for 3DL) but she's not a figure made specifically for DS like the Genesis line.

Most V4 content made for poser works in DS, There are however a few exceptions:

• poser dynamic hair doesn't work at all in DS
• poser dynamic clothes load as static props in DS. They often play well with dForce if you apply a dForce modifier though.
• A lot of content for V4 only has poser materials. DS only reads a few basic properties of Poser materials so you will usually need to adjust materials in DS.
• A small number of custom morphs for V4 use a tech called "PMD injection", which is specific to poser. 
• At the time V4 was released, there was a difference in the way Poser and DS handled scaling along individual axes. A handful of products rely on the way Poser handled scaling and therefore don't work as intended in DS.

I wasn't actually aware until now that Clothing for Victoria 4 Figures was rigged in Poser. 

Either in Poser or using DS figure setup tools, which are able to do parametric rigging. But not using the transfer utility like Genesis clothes, as that is for weight mapped figures.

Does Poser use a different Rigging System? 

Poser offers 3 types of rigging:

• Parametric rigging with spherical falloff zones => the one V4 and earlier Daz figures use, compatible with DS
• A variant of parametric rigging which uses "capsule" falloff zones, introduced in Poser 8 => not compatible with DS. It was used for a handful of figures produced by the owners of Poser like the P8 base figures.
• Their own version of weight mapping, introduced in Poser 9 IIRC => not compatible with DS. Used for the Poser base figures since P9, La Femme and L'Homme, and the Poser version of Dawn.

Is there actually a Feature in Poser, like the one for Genesis Figures, where the Clothing conforms to the Body?

At the time V4 was released there was only the "if there's a matching morph in the clothes it will follow". That's why having morphs in clothes to support the main morph packs was a big selling point.

Later on there was an utility (morphing clothes IIRC) released which enabled you to transfer morphs to clothing like the "transfer active morphs" in DS does.

Poser also introduced a morph brush which helped adjusting clothing if needed.

I've not used recent versions of poser but AFAIK they have a "fitting room" which likely helps with fitting clothes.

 Would it work if I re-rigged a Piece of Clothing for Victoria 4 Figures in DAZ Studio? If the Clothing is re-rigged, would it then work just like it does for the Genesis Figures? 

You can't rig clothes for V4 with transfer utility as V4 is not weight mapped. The clothes need to use the same kind of rigging as the base figure.

How can I activate this "Transfer Active Morph" function? Do I need to activate it individually for all clothing items as well as the Victoria 4 figure?

From memory, it's available from the context menu when you right click on V4.

You use it on V4 and it affects all items fit to her.

Now I’m a bit curious. I just double-checked and realized that DAZ has actually been around since 2000, I had previously assumed it started a bit later. Does the Original Company, Zygone, still exist? 

Yes. They create 3D models for other markets, notably medically accurate models.

Did DAZ also develop the Victoria 1 Figure? That one was released in 1999. 

The division of Zygote which later became Daz developed the "Millennium woman" and "Millennium man" figures, which were later renamed Victoria and Michael.

Poser was released back in 1995, did Zygone develop Figures for it right from the start?

I know they developed the base figures for Poser 4, "P4 nude woman" aka "Posette" and "P4 nude man" aka "The Dork". Not sure about earlier versions.

Did the Companies that took over Poser over the years also develop their own Figures for it, or do all the older Poser Figures Originate from Zygone / DAZ? I’m referring more to the early years (the 90s and 2000s), nowadays, there are several Figures designed solely for Posers. But I’d be interested in that early Period.

They did develop their own base figures at least for Poser 5 to 11, and a few others sold independently like Miki or the poser G2 line of figures (not to be confused with Genesis 2).

There is one more Point I’m curious about. Not long ago, I discovered that another Platform, one primarily focused on Poser and currently operated by the Company that owns Poser, has a Daz Sub-Forum. One of the Moderators from here is actually active there. He told me that this Sub-Forum has been active since 2003, now I’m wondering what People discussed back then, at a time when Daz Studio didn't even exist yet.

The first public beta of DS was released in early 2004, and I know there was a limited alpha before that. Maybe they created the subforum when the alpha was launched? 

magikhs said:

That Charlie Cox is a snack and a half. Ooof

 

When I saw the JP Harrow morph, it was just so obviously Charlie Cox it was painful (particularly with one of the example images).

This led me to think of, and now ask, the one 'Forbidden' question concerning these morphs: What is the exact 'legality' of pruducing such morphs?

It seems like it may be walking a fine line, as there have some celebrities that have sued movie/TV producers for using their likeness without compensation before (either an actual performance for which they weren't paid, or a 3D scan that was put in post production).

And now we have AI Slop which can do the same easily with anybody's face, and without the consent of the person.

I think that these morphs simply fly 'under the radar' low enough that their producers don't get into trouble.

That being said, I do recall many years ago how one 'Lara Croft Cosplay' outfit suddenly disappeared from the market, and if memory serves, the example images did use a 'Angelina Jolie' face morph (for Poser's Victoria 4), but I think it may have had to do with the outfit being an exact copy of the game version, and not the face used. 

I hope it's useful. I was asked about doing it by a gentleman on Renderosity, and I have to say I wasn't initially convinced that it would be useful. However, it turns out that with large character and morph libraries, the 'Edit| Copy Figure' and then 'Edit| Paste Selected Items Pose' can take a huge amount of time.

This script is pretty much fixed in how long it takes to run - a few seconds. I also found it useful to copy and mirror hand poses from one character to another (Male or Female). It took a bit of time to program - I tend to be a brute ignorance and force type of programmer, which means a lot of simple statements to run through. Oddly, this method seems to work faster than sophisticated ones with loops, arrays etc.

Anyway, I learnt a lot about automatically selecting the correct characters and am fairly pleased with it.

Regards,

Richard.

PoshTentacle said:

RiverSoft Art said:

PoshTentacle said:

RiverSoft Art said:

PoshTentacle said:

So I tried using Turbo Loader recently to improve my figure loading speed, and unfortunately, it broke my most-used character preset. Basically, in any scene that I have created that contains that character, one of its most important morphs defaults to 0%. According to the logs, the morph itself is loading, but the morph value is not.

Unfortunately, due to the fact that when loading a scene, morphs are loaded and then poses, I can't just load the broken scene and move the morph sliders back to 100% because it will distort the pose. The only way I have found to keep the exact pose is for me to re-create the broken character preset, load a fresh copy into the scene with the broken figure, and then copy the pose from the broken figure to the one with the correct morph. This will take a huge amount of time by reloading the character into every one of my broken scenes.

I tried resetting all the changes made by Turbo Loader using the "Reset Morph Directory" and "Reset Content Directories" buttons, but this did not resolve the issue.

Edit: Also, I haven't re-saved any of the scenes since the issue appeared in hopes that if I didn't save it, the scenes would still be fixable

Have you searched your HDD for *.tlOff files? That is what TL changes the extension to in order to turn off the morph. Reset Content Directories renames all morphs back to their .dsf extension. If you cannot find any .tlOff files, then the scenes should work as far as what TL did. 

I did not find any .tlOff files. Is there maybe a cache or something that I need to refresh/empty after I reset all the morphs to their original state? Also, here are the error lines in the log that may help shine a light on things.

2026-05-11 11:01:50.533 [WARNING] :: \src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(595): Formula output property not found:
File: /data/Daz 3D/Genesis 9/Base/Morphs/Jepe/JP Sandor HD/JP Sandor HD.dsf
URI: Genesis9:/data/Daz%203D/Genesis%209/Base/Morphs/Jepe/JP%20Sandor%20HD/JP%20Sandor%20Head.dsf#JP%20Sandor%20Head-0xa95d2ce?value

2026-05-11 11:01:50.533 [WARNING] :: \src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(595): Formula output property not found:
File: /data/Daz 3D/Genesis 9/Base/Morphs/Jepe/JP Sandor HD/JP Sandor HD.dsf
URI: Genesis9:/data/Daz%203D/Genesis%209/Base/Morphs/Jepe/JP%20Sandor%20HD/JP%20Sandor%20Body.dsf#JP%20Sandor%20Body-0xa95d473?value

Just to repeat for clarity, the morph itself is loading, but the value of the morph is now missing.  

Edit: Idk why that quote block is so hard to read, so here is the same message in regular text form:

 

2026-05-11 11:01:50.533 [WARNING] :: \src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(595): Formula output property not found:

File: /data/Daz 3D/Genesis 9/Base/Morphs/Jepe/JP Sandor HD/JP Sandor HD.dsf

URI: Genesis9:/data/Daz%203D/Genesis%209/Base/Morphs/Jepe/JP%20Sandor%20HD/JP%20Sandor%20Head.dsf#JP%20Sandor%20Head-0xa95d2ce?value

 

2026-05-11 11:01:50.533 [WARNING] :: \src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(595): Formula output property not found:

File: /data/Daz 3D/Genesis 9/Base/Morphs/Jepe/JP Sandor HD/JP Sandor HD.dsf

URI: Genesis9:/data/Daz%203D/Genesis%209/Base/Morphs/Jepe/JP%20Sandor%20HD/JP%20Sandor%20Body.dsf#JP%20Sandor%20Body-0xa95d473?value

Once the .tlOff files are gone, TL effects are gone. Did you install products lately?

 

Yes, I have installed products lately. I even reinstalled the JP Sandor character in hopes of fixing the issue, but unfortunately, it didn't solve anything. 

You need to look at those products then for the problem. The TL shouldn't be the problem once you reverted everything - I don't see how it could. All it does is rename files and you renamed them back. It's possible that re-installing JP Sandor (perhaps it was updated?) between the original TL rename to tlOff could have hurt its installation, e.g., Sandor Original Morph -> TL Sandor Original Morph.tlOff -> Sandor Updated Morph -> overwritten by Sandor Original Morph? Or maybe you tried to do something with the metadata while Sandor was off and the metadata has locked in the idea that those morphs are missing files, which have now been restored? I am reaching here, but the original TL is not in the equation anymore.

RiverSoft Art said:

PoshTentacle said:

RiverSoft Art said:

PoshTentacle said:

So I tried using Turbo Loader recently to improve my figure loading speed, and unfortunately, it broke my most-used character preset. Basically, in any scene that I have created that contains that character, one of its most important morphs defaults to 0%. According to the logs, the morph itself is loading, but the morph value is not.

Unfortunately, due to the fact that when loading a scene, morphs are loaded and then poses, I can't just load the broken scene and move the morph sliders back to 100% because it will distort the pose. The only way I have found to keep the exact pose is for me to re-create the broken character preset, load a fresh copy into the scene with the broken figure, and then copy the pose from the broken figure to the one with the correct morph. This will take a huge amount of time by reloading the character into every one of my broken scenes.

I tried resetting all the changes made by Turbo Loader using the "Reset Morph Directory" and "Reset Content Directories" buttons, but this did not resolve the issue.

Edit: Also, I haven't re-saved any of the scenes since the issue appeared in hopes that if I didn't save it, the scenes would still be fixable

Have you searched your HDD for *.tlOff files? That is what TL changes the extension to in order to turn off the morph. Reset Content Directories renames all morphs back to their .dsf extension. If you cannot find any .tlOff files, then the scenes should work as far as what TL did. 

I did not find any .tlOff files. Is there maybe a cache or something that I need to refresh/empty after I reset all the morphs to their original state? Also, here are the error lines in the log that may help shine a light on things.

2026-05-11 11:01:50.533 [WARNING] :: \src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(595): Formula output property not found:
File: /data/Daz 3D/Genesis 9/Base/Morphs/Jepe/JP Sandor HD/JP Sandor HD.dsf
URI: Genesis9:/data/Daz%203D/Genesis%209/Base/Morphs/Jepe/JP%20Sandor%20HD/JP%20Sandor%20Head.dsf#JP%20Sandor%20Head-0xa95d2ce?value

2026-05-11 11:01:50.533 [WARNING] :: \src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(595): Formula output property not found:
File: /data/Daz 3D/Genesis 9/Base/Morphs/Jepe/JP Sandor HD/JP Sandor HD.dsf
URI: Genesis9:/data/Daz%203D/Genesis%209/Base/Morphs/Jepe/JP%20Sandor%20HD/JP%20Sandor%20Body.dsf#JP%20Sandor%20Body-0xa95d473?value

Just to repeat for clarity, the morph itself is loading, but the value of the morph is now missing.  

Edit: Idk why that quote block is so hard to read, so here is the same message in regular text form:

 

2026-05-11 11:01:50.533 [WARNING] :: \src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(595): Formula output property not found:

File: /data/Daz 3D/Genesis 9/Base/Morphs/Jepe/JP Sandor HD/JP Sandor HD.dsf

URI: Genesis9:/data/Daz%203D/Genesis%209/Base/Morphs/Jepe/JP%20Sandor%20HD/JP%20Sandor%20Head.dsf#JP%20Sandor%20Head-0xa95d2ce?value

 

2026-05-11 11:01:50.533 [WARNING] :: \src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(595): Formula output property not found:

File: /data/Daz 3D/Genesis 9/Base/Morphs/Jepe/JP Sandor HD/JP Sandor HD.dsf

URI: Genesis9:/data/Daz%203D/Genesis%209/Base/Morphs/Jepe/JP%20Sandor%20HD/JP%20Sandor%20Body.dsf#JP%20Sandor%20Body-0xa95d473?value

Once the .tlOff files are gone, TL effects are gone. Did you install products lately?

 

Yes, I have installed products lately. I even reinstalled the JP Sandor character in hopes of fixing the issue, but unfortunately, it didn't solve anything. 

Richard Haseltine said:

gelstat said:

Again and again and again, is 2026 the year of the crash?? ( daz4 not crash, then hardware are ok)

 

ryzen 5950x + rtx 3090 + 64gb ram

The first time it happened, I was sliding a morph; the second time, I was editing a morph's percentage; the third time, I was running an Iray pre-render.

I test 2 last nvidia driver game ready and actualy i have last ready studio, same fight...

So I'm going to work on a beta version of 2025.27507—when it wasn't crashing—to see if the problem is with the computer.