omen.kris said:

Richard Haseltine said:

nabob21 said:

Bejaymac, thanks for the explanation. I do have some questions for you though if you don't mind.

1. What files are these IDs found in? Are they identified in the error log?

Yes, the log will give the file name and path

I can not find the name and path in my log files! The log files are just a mess! Where do I see that any conflict is? How can I find what is causing the problem????  I made the morph myself. What should be unique to not get this freaking error??? Please help!

The errors will have a WARNING in front of the line

Richard Haseltine said:

nabob21 said:

Bejaymac, thanks for the explanation. I do have some questions for you though if you don't mind.

1. What files are these IDs found in? Are they identified in the error log?

Yes, the log will give the file name and path

I can not find the name and path in my log files! The log files are just a mess! Where do I see that any conflict is? How can I find what is causing the problem????  I made the morph myself. What should be unique to not get this freaking error??? Please help!

felis said:

Converting the textures to G9 UV, will be tricky. If it is for a single transfer, you might be able to adjust the texture to match G9 UV, but the UVs are rather different. To make it worse, you have a seam in the middle of the tatoo, so it has to fit rather precisly on the two sides.

You might be able to use this to do it https://www.daz3d.com/legacy-uvs-for-genesis-9-genesis-3-8-and-81-male

I dont have either, so I can't verify it.

Thank you! 

crosswind said:

n.aspros123 said:

crosswind said:

Yep, I could reproduce the issue, see screenshot1. I personally think it can be acceptable to some extent... but just fix it if you don't like it.

Anyway, I quickly fixed it in Blender as well as the chest area with Eleanora body morph dialed, so as to make it look more natural.. The bodysuit is not a well-made one but could be used with some tweakings.

Check you PM, and try fixing it with the way I showed in the video ~

 

@crosswind

Now you know what is happening.

Can you give me guidance on what areas and settings that need to be adjusted, please?

The areas I found on the suit that need to be tweaked: 1) morph: lower back and chest. Some poke-thru happen to Belt on the thighs, need to be fixed a bit; 2) surface: darken base color, add some glossy, increase Bump a bit. (screenshot 1)

Did you use daz or blender to make the render? 

DS of course ~

Where did you find the background and how one is setup and angles? Do I use the lighting techniques you suggested in the other thread I have - Various questions about Jill V suit?

Room:https://www.deviantart.com/dazwraps/art/RE3-Remake-Jill-Valentine-Apartment-Daz-Scene-926730413

Lighting pattern is up to your preferences, I used 3 spotlights and tweak the ambient lights a bit. Check your PM.

How are morph and suit settings saved as a preset in daz?

As for morphs, you just need to Save Morph Assets ( File - Save As - Support Assets - Morph Assets...) As per my observation, you don't need to save any presets as the character / suit, etc. are pretty simple. Just keeping them in your scene will be fine.

@crosswind 

I'm very greatful that you fixed the issues. Wish I could give something back you for taking the time with me?

However, I haven't learned to put into practice, correcting the issues you addressed. I have to watch the video about blender more times, the one you shared about the lower back.

I'll leave the Base colour of the suit and try to change the colour of the lights....if i can... as you suggested in your replies further back.

When I go to add the Apartment, my Jill disappears. Can't figure it out, (I'm thinking I have to crerate my own scene in the AP)?  I can add yours. Any links to videos for adding character to Environments, if i'm saying that terminology correctly? 

How do you toggle off the square border in the viewport when wanting to load a character (pic 4)?

Man! Wish we could Teamviewer or some remote computer correspondance. Like course lessons or youtube videos.

richardandtracy said:

Now, this may seem a bit like a backhanded compliment. Because it is, really.

I appreciate the G9 Waterfall Hair, To me, the style looks a bit retro & a bit thin around the flyaway curly bits above the shoulders & near the ears.

 The hair looks nice but what really got my interest was the face morph, it's very natural and nice. I'm hoping it's not a totally custom morph and maybe it's something I can buy/mix to get something close to that look.

n.aspros123 said:

crosswind said:

Yep, I could reproduce the issue, see screenshot1. I personally think it can be acceptable to some extent... but just fix it if you don't like it.

Anyway, I quickly fixed it in Blender as well as the chest area with Eleanora body morph dialed, so as to make it look more natural.. The bodysuit is not a well-made one but could be used with some tweakings.

Check you PM, and try fixing it with the way I showed in the video ~

 

@crosswind

Now you know what is happening.

Can you give me guidance on what areas and settings that need to be adjusted, please?

The areas I found on the suit that need to be tweaked: 1) morph: lower back and chest. Some poke-thru happen to Belt on the thighs, need to be fixed a bit; 2) surface: darken base color, add some glossy, increase Bump a bit. (screenshot 1)

Did you use daz or blender to make the render? 

DS of course ~

Where did you find the background and how one is setup and angles? Do I use the lighting techniques you suggested in the other thread I have - Various questions about Jill V suit?

Room:https://www.deviantart.com/dazwraps/art/RE3-Remake-Jill-Valentine-Apartment-Daz-Scene-926730413

Lighting pattern is up to your preferences, I used 3 spotlights and tweak the ambient lights a bit. Check your PM.

How are morph and suit settings saved as a preset in daz?

As for morphs, you just need to Save Morph Assets ( File - Save As - Support Assets - Morph Assets...) As per my observation, you don't need to save any presets as the character / suit, etc. are pretty simple. Just keeping them in your scene will be fine.

You don't want to bake the morphs you used to a single morph as you will lose all the linked adjustments (to joint centres and corrective morphs to work with posing and other supported shapes). You could split off the head shape from your original, converted shape by spawing the head Splitter dForm, exporting your shape (with no poses or other shapes applied) as OBJ, and then reloading through Morph Loader Pro with the Attentuate By option set and the Head Split dForm's weight map selected. Then you could reapply the head morphs you have been using and set about adjusting the body shape.

I have a character I  created that started by converting a character I made for G8M and then changing things on the head with morh sliders.  I really like the head, but not the body.  The chest looks goofy.  The character was inspired by an old cartoon character from the 1890's.  I just reimagined him as a real person.  I tried changing the body by playing with different morp sliders, but I can't get it to look right.  What I was wondering is, can I somehow save the head seperatly from the body, them load a fresh G9 and apply that saved head while keeping the body untouched?. Then I could use morph sliders to adjust the body.  Here are some pictures of what I have.

crosswind said:

Yep, I could reproduce the issue, see screenshot1. I personally think it can be acceptable to some extent... but just fix it if you don't like it.

Anyway, I quickly fixed it in Blender as well as the chest area with Eleanora body morph dialed, so as to make it look more natural.. The bodysuit is not a well-made one but could be used with some tweakings.

Check you PM, and try fixing it with the way I showed in the video ~

@crosswind

Now you know what is happening.

Can you give me guidance on what areas and settings that need to be adjusted, please?

Did you use daz or blender to make the render? 

Where did you find the background and how one is setup and angles? Do I use the lighting techniques you suggested in the other thread I have - Various questions about Jill V suit?

How are morph and suit settings saved as a preset in daz?

Converting the textures to G9 UV, will be tricky. If it is for a single transfer, you might be able to adjust the texture to match G9 UV, but the UVs are rather different. To make it worse, you have a seam in the middle of the tatoo, so it has to fit rather precisly on the two sides.

You might be able to use this to do it https://www.daz3d.com/legacy-uvs-for-genesis-9-genesis-3-8-and-81-male

I dont have either, so I can't verify it.

You could split the vertexes in the middle of the zipper, if that is possible.

When imported to Daz Studio it will be a new item, where you have to run Transfer Utility.

If you don't touch the UV or surface names (materials) you can reuse textures, but you have to load them on the original first, and then you can copy to the new one.

Yep, I could reproduce the issue, see screenshot1. I personally think it can be acceptable to some extent... but just fix it if you don't like it.

Anyway, I quickly fixed it in Blender as well as the chest area with Eleanora body morph dialed, so as to make it look more natural.. The bodysuit is not a well-made one but could be used with some tweakings.

Check you PM, and try fixing it with the way I showed in the video ~

Leana said:

A morph can't remove or split polygons, only distort them.

If the sides of the zip aren't separate in the first place I don't think you can "open" it with only a morph, because:

• there would be polygons joining both sides, which would need to be gone when the zip is open
• there might even be vertices which are parts of both "sides"

If both sides are "independant enough" (ie no shared vertices) one option might be to get an "open effect" would be to move the vertices corresponding to each side, then make the polygons in the middle invisible (assign them to another surface or use a map make them transparent).

 

Another option could be to create a geograft to replace the closed zip with one where the parts are separate, and create an open morph for that.

n.aspros123 said:

@crosswind

Is this sequence needed to reset the pose to A-pose? 

Edit>Figure>Zero>Zero Figure Pose

Yep, Zero Figure Pose will do.

Or

https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/8384/resetting-genesis-into-default-pose

What would happen if I started a new file from scratch. Select the Jill character Without the Eleanora body morph by USB and applied the Suit. Would it have the bump still even before I apply the body morph?

It's hard to tell as I don't have these characters. Normally a bodysuit product cannot provide fixed projected morphs for all characters... so probably you'll find this sort of issue. You may just try it anyway. Pls bear in mind that when using these sort of 3rd-party products, tinker things would be a routine.

Wonderland said:

PerttiA said:

For testing purposes, load G9 into an empty scene, "Zero the Figure", bend the leg, enable "Show hidden" and check "Currently used".

The active correction morphs (on the Currently Used list) should show a value, and if there are dials with value "0" (zero) shown in white, their default value is something other than zero.
Changing the value of the active or zero-value correction morphs should help you track down the rogue morph

Thanks. I did all that. Reinstalled Genesis 9 essentials and Daz default items. Loaded base G9 and still have the problem. Current shows nothing unusual. Everything under Hidden is at 0%. The log shows tons of WARNINGs but I don't know how to upload that here in the forums and don't know what any of it means or how to fix it. 

We are not asking you to look in the Hiden group, we are asking you to open the pane's option menu (the lined/hamburger buutton in the top corner), then the Preferences sub-menu in that, and to enable (check) Show Hidden Properties - then, with the distortion showing, look under Currently Used.

@crosswind

Is this sequence needed to reset the pose to A-pose? 

Edit>Figure>Zero>Zero Figure Pose

Or

https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/8384/resetting-genesis-into-default-pose

What would happen if I started a new file from scratch. Select the Jill character Without the Eleanora body morph by USB and applied the Suit. Would it have the bump still even before I apply the body morph?

Wonderland said:

PerttiA said:

For testing purposes, load G9 into an empty scene, "Zero the Figure", bend the leg, enable "Show hidden" and check "Currently used".

The active correction morphs (on the Currently Used list) should show a value, and if there are dials with value "0" (zero) shown in white, their default value is something other than zero.
Changing the value of the active or zero-value correction morphs should help you track down the rogue morph

Thanks. I did all that. Reinstalled Genesis 9 essentials and Daz default items. Loaded base G9 and still have the problem. Current shows nothing unusual. Everything under Hidden is at 0%. The log shows tons of WARNINGs but I don't know how to upload that here in the forums and don't know what any of it means or how to fix it. 

I second NorthOf45's suggestion..as I said before, just check the characters you've installed recently... Half / half method turns out to pretty effective. Besides, DS log won't give you clues for this sort of issue ~~

However, I really wonder about what you said : Everything under Hidden is at 0% ...  for instance if you bend Base figure's Left Shin as before, there should be at least two corrective morphs triggred with non-zero values.

Trying to find that needle in the haystack might be a waste of time. Have you tried uninstalling G9 characters and morph packs in reverse order that you installed them? It is obviously something that you have installed that is mis-behaving. Even if you do manage to find the problematic product, you will most likely have to uninstall it anyway.

The fastest way is to uninstall half and see if the problem goes away. If not, you know it is in the other half. Uninstall half ot the rest.

If the problem was in one of those from the first half, re-install half of them and see if it comes back. If so, uninstall half of them, etc.

Repeat the process, checking each half of the remainder until you find the one. Even if you have 128 products with morphs, it will only take eight passes to get down to one. Don't forget to purge memory between loads, or restart Studio each time.

...

@crosswind

Does body need to be in A pose? If yes, see my reply to felis. I have Daz 4.22 and latest version of Blender. 

You don't have to reset it to A-Pose before fixing FBM on the clothing if you follow the settings in Morph Loader Pro in my video (i.e. the two options in the attached screenshot can assure you fix it in non A-Pose)... However, I still suggest you use A-Pose... It's a standard workflow that all qualified PA and content creators use, which can bring you the most accurate result when sculpting, esp. with Symmetry.

Well, as for Update Base Geometry, no matter updating vertex position or full geometry, you have to use A-Pose beforehand 'cause this function doesn't Reverse Deformations, that's why it is called Update Base Geometry....

As for Hexagon, choose Advanced in Show Options. But personally, I still strongly recommend Blender in which all the functions especially Sculpting is much much more accountable for one who frequently make / tweak morphs. The latter is more worth learning...

Wonderland said:

PerttiA said:

For testing purposes, load G9 into an empty scene, "Zero the Figure", bend the leg, enable "Show hidden" and check "Currently used".

The active correction morphs (on the Currently Used list) should show a value, and if there are dials with value "0" (zero) shown in white, their default value is something other than zero.
Changing the value of the active or zero-value correction morphs should help you track down the rogue morph

Thanks. I did all that. Reinstalled Genesis 9 essentials and Daz default items. Loaded base G9 and still have the problem. Current shows nothing unusual. Everything under Hidden is at 0%. The log shows tons of WARNINGs but I don't know how to upload that here in the forums and don't know what any of it means or how to fix it. 
 

Yep, that won't fix the problem; most likely, you have a defective character that is triggering the deformation.  How about copying a small chunk of the warnings (which shouldn't be there at all and strongly hints at a defective character) so we can see what might be happening?