There have been reports that dialog boxes are distorted on high-res monitors (see Pict 1).

We are working on a permanent fix, but for now there is a quick easy fix.

1. Right click on the desktop and ask for Dispaly Manager.

2. Change scale to 100%.

3. Restart HeadShop. Your screen should look right:

Headshop 12 for Genesis8 takes forever to load and when the image is loded it throws the error:

"Daz model not found."

Headshop 12 has been installed as described in the video on the store page.

I honestly cannot think of a single advantage for Daz Face Transfer over the other 2 aside from its price, and its a Daz Original...I guess? Both Facegen and Headshop have vastly more features than Face Transfer.

Facegen limits its source texture resolution to 1024 x 1024.   I think Face Transfer use the full source texture resolution, so the face map has much more detail.  You can tell the difference, because when I use FG, the eyebrows are sometimes blurry, but when I use FT on the same picture, the eyebrows have much finer details.

 

In the most recent update of FG, which came out late last year, the maps are now 4096 by 4096. 

Headshop 12, Face Transfer, Face Transfer plus FTS @ 100%

No textures applied. G8F Base included as comparison.

Wow, FTS is amazing. I knew Face Transfer by itself is not so good as I have it and haven't used it since I bought it but with this comparison FTS is going in my wishlist.

The Headshop face looks terrible to me.

Headshop 12, Face Transfer, Face Transfer plus FTS @ 100%

No textures applied. G8F Base included as comparison.

Hello.

Does anyone experienced Headshop 12 (either for Gen 3 or Gen 8) to have better results than the previous versions? And I mean REALLY better results.

imo the Headshop plugin is actually a bit of a dissapointment .   :(

What's going on with the Headshop face textures?  The 'fade to white' is rather disconcerting...

I'm not a HS user, but I think it doesn't do full body blending with color matching.  
I think there's a way to match the color of two images by remapping the histogram of one image to the histogram of another.  Histogram color matching.  This is what Photoshop's Match Color tool does, and it works pretty good most of the time. Headshop should look it up if they want to compete with FG and FT.

 

For what it's worth here are Headshop 12 and Face Transfer rendered straight out the box on G8F Base both using the same source face photo. Plus Face Transfer with PhilW's Face Transfer Shapes base morph at 100%. I don't have FaceGen so cant compare that.

We need the original photo to make a fair comparison. We need a point of reference, and also which light did you use? I have Facegen, so if you upload a pic I can try it out. If you don't want to upload that pic, then we can find a pic online that can be used by us all. How does that sound?

I have made comparison shots to Headshop in the past. They are somewhere in this forum. I have not done the Face Transfer. I actually do own it, but I just never bothered. I do not have PhilW's add on.

For what it's worth here are Headshop 12 and Face Transfer rendered straight out the box on G8F Base both using the same source face photo. Plus Face Transfer with PhilW's Face Transfer Shapes base morph at 100%. I don't have FaceGen so cant compare that.

Thanks for the comparison!

What's going on with the Headshop face textures?  The 'fade to white' is rather disconcerting...

For what it's worth here are Headshop 12 and Face Transfer rendered straight out the box on G8F Base both using the same source face photo. Plus Face Transfer with PhilW's Face Transfer Shapes base morph at 100%. I don't have FaceGen so cant compare that.

Dear,

the result is so dissapointing. Save the money. To be honest, headshop is not even better.
I also bought Face Gen. Although this one has more tweak and tune options I don't see any and results when rendering the figure. Something goes wrong here and I am trying to find it out. Still testing.

 

 

How do people rate face transfer in terms of accurate likeness, with the scale of 1 being bad and 10 being spot-on excellent ?

 

The Headshop 10% off your entire order does NOT exclude gift cards but it isn't working on them. I have the https://www.daz3d.com/z-jacuzzi-time-and-poses as the purchase, the gift card is full amount.

 

and 2 or more featured store items?

I honestly cannot think of a single advantage for Daz Face Transfer over the other 2 aside from its price, and its a Daz Original...I guess? Both Facegen and Headshop have vastly more features than Face Transfer.

Facegen limits its source texture resolution to 1024 x 1024.   I think Face Transfer use the full source texture resolution, so the face map has much more detail.  You can tell the difference, because when I use FG, the eyebrows are sometimes blurry, but when I use FT on the same picture, the eyebrows have much finer details.

And Facegen uses a blackbox approach to generating faces, which places limitations on what kind of face it can generate.  FT uses no such approach, so it may be better on generating faces outside the 'normal' range of Facegen.

Yet another reason why you might want to throw out textures generated by Facegen has to do with its eyebrows.  Compare the shape of the eyebrows between FG and FT, and you may notice FG tends to create straight eyebrows, while FT creates curved eyebrows.  If you used Facegen for a long time, this observation may surprise you if you haven't noticed it.

Face Transfer has its own problems, like stretching the neck, flattening the upper lip, and gives no options to remove asymmetry.

Despite of all this, you could probably use a combination of FG and FT if you're a good artist.

My ranking is:

1) FaceGen Artist Pro

2) Headshop

3) Face Transfer

^In which case, just add a plane, add the picture to the diffuse channel in surfaces (then either make sure it's a square picture or scale the plane in x/y axis to match picture dimensions), then lower the cutout-opacity slider in surfaces to make it partially transparent. Rotate 90-degrees in the x-axis and position over your character's face.

(Or try Face-Transfer / Headshop / etc as that'd be easier if you get the results you want).

I honestly cannot think of a single advantage for Daz Face Transfer over the other 2 aside from its price, and its a Daz Original...I guess? Both Facegen and Headshop have vastly more features than Face Transfer.

 

I agree. Actually I use HS and FG together. HS is better with pictures. FG is better with textures. I turn both morphs down to  40 to 50%. One nice thing about FG is that you can export the texture to other skin texturs that you own, not just the base Genisus character.

 

You probably want to read this recent discussion: https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/381026/facegen-vs-face-transfer-vs-headshop-12-pros-cons#latest

The headshop author also chips in at the end.

Anyone using this product and does it work as it says it does? How many still angles do you need? Cheers

Let's not forget that HeadShop also:

1. Auto-finds all 50 points - no need to manually pick points

2. Automatically turns/aligns heads to frontal - you can use photos that are turned away from frontal

3. Lets you morph  between two people via LoveChild.

Otherwise I agree with Outrider's assesment.

None of them are going to be a substitute for a proper sculpt, but under good conditions they can work pretty well. They rely heavily on the photo texture detail to provide their illusion. Like if you have a face of a person with wrinkles those wrickles are purely textures on the 3d model it creates. They are not capable of that level of sculpting.

Rather you will get a general head shape. Of the 3, only Facegen will offer a full set of textures for the face and body. FG attempts to blend the texture with the body. The other 2 options only blend the photo into the face texture, leaving the rest alone. This makes them more prone to looking like a clown face where the face is an obvious mismatch for the body. Though FG can also do this as well, it does handle it better. So in this area FG is the best one.

Headshop is unique in that it can handle a smiling photo. The other two need photos that are more like mugshots. But your results will vary.

I honestly cannot think of a single advantage for Daz Face Transfer over the other 2 aside from its price, and its a Daz Original...I guess? Both Facegen and Headshop have vastly more features than Face Transfer.

Oh, one cool thing about Facegen is that it uses .fg files to save within its app. These files can be freely shared, and you can find places where people have uploaded their own Facegen creations.

Sometimes you can also find Daz characters with some bits of Facegen in them. At sharecg there is dumbuser who uploads various characters which were created with Facegen.