I was wondering why some characters have detail enable, specular occlusion, makeup, ect available while others don't. For example, the base 8.1F figure doesn't have any of those options while Victoria 8.1 does. 
Is there any way to have those options availabe for any 8.1 character?

8 - New Look / Swinging Sixties / Wild Seventies (1947-1979)

https://www.daz3d.com/dforce-becs-stage-outfit-for-genesis-8-females

- ah, wild ABBA and 70s country singer outfits ...

https://www.daz3d.com/dforce-spencer-dress-for-genesis-9

- see Spencer Dress in section 6

https://www.daz3d.com/dforce-kendall-outfit-for-genesis-9

- with platform boots, a good 70s fit IMO

https://www.daz3d.com/dforce-patience-dress-for-g8f

- 60s/70s hippie or romantic style, generally a very nice dress; has a great texture add-on for a romantic style

https://www.daz3d.com/dforce-train-dress-for-g8f

- feels mostly 1950s to me, with some adjustments

https://www.daz3d.com/a97-dforce-emma-dress-for-genesis-8-and-9-females

- 60s and 70s both I feel, depending on additional styling – man, this is short!

https://www.daz3d.com/d-force-simply-for-genesis-8-females

- sixties-ish to me, depending on texture

https://www.daz3d.com/dforce-dolman-dress-for-g8f

- the general style gives 1980s a lot, textures feel a bit off for that though

https://www.daz3d.com/looking-back-outfit-for-genesis-8-female-s

- 70s, jeans could work for 60s as well, with that flare – but for both I’m not too sure about the skin tightness and the low-rise fit, these feel more like modern additions to me

https://www.daz3d.com/dforce-hnc-pleated-denim-skirt-outfit-for-genesis-81-females

- skirt should work nicely for 60s and 70s alike, not sure about the combo with the cute top

https://www.daz3d.com/jiwoo-pumps-for-genesis-8-females

- Mary Jane style shoes have been around for some time and so can be used in different period settings

https://www.daz3d.com/dforce-mk-retro-elegance-outfit-for-genesis-9

- this should be useful in 50s and 60s settings, maybe earlier, but the neck line would have to be adjusted for that as it seems way too open

https://www.daz3d.com/dforce-hc-double-button-dress-for-genesis-8-females

- used as a coat and not a dress (use Thickener!), this would be great for different periods, especially 30s and 60s come to mind, depending on how you accesorize it

https://www.daz3d.com/dforce-detective-outfit-for-genesis-9

- one of those typical loosely vintage-y mens’ outfits, male fashion really changed only by nuances for such a long time; the main problem here that would need to be addressed is, as almost always with these outfits, the waistcoat that is cut way too low for true vintage styles

https://www.daz3d.com/block-heel-pumps-for-genesis-9-8-and-81-female

- another useful Mary Jane style shoe

https://www.daz3d.com/dforce-halterneck-pantsuit-for-g8f

- gives me 1970s vibes, just need vibrant textures

https://www.daz3d.com/dforce-50s-daisy-outfit-for-genesis-9-and-8-female

- yes, 50s as it says, but also the quintessential vintage / retro uniform for women after the 20s: longish skirt, nice blouse with collar, there you go ;-)

https://www.daz3d.com/dforce-pulp-safari-outfit-for-genesis-9-and-8-female

- another one of these useful, skirt-and-blouse women vintage outfits (boots seem weird though)

https://www.daz3d.com/dforce-night-date-outfit-for-genesis-8-and-8-1f

- the pants are giving me 30s and 40s wide leg trousers vibes, also 60s, 70s palazzo style, so quite versatile

https://www.daz3d.com/dforce-parka-outfit-for-genesis-9

- the parka has a great vintage feel, I think with adapting the textures, you could use it from 1960s onwards

https://www.daz3d.com/dforce-travelling-merchant-outfit-for-genesis-9

- just adore this set, it’s so detailed and has so many extras, and it also feels very life-like; should work well for 1920s through 1960s with some small adaptions

https://www.daz3d.com/dforce-the-max-outfit-for-genesis-8-and-81-males

- very 70s, but trousers do need some work and coat could use thickening

https://www.daz3d.com/dforce-pret-cooking-for-genesis-9-and-8-females

- outfit as a whole has 1950s, 1960s casual home style vibe for me (without the chef’s hat)

https://www.daz3d.com/dforce-hnc24-mustang-jacket-outfit-for-genesis-9

- like one of those 1950s pilot jackets, no?

https://www.daz3d.com/dforce-barbarella-suit-for-g8fs

- late sixties, early seventies TV series style clothing, well, maybe with a skirt for everyday use …

https://www.daz3d.com/dforce-apron-suit-hd-clothes-for-victoria-9

- a very nice add-on set for any busy housewife in the 20th century, I should think from 1920s through 1970s – with varying dresses/skirts underneath for the first half of the century

https://www.daz3d.com/dforce-brz-belted-dress-and-poses-for-genesis-9

- if you use this as a coat (use Thickener!) with a dress underneath, together with the poses, this makes for very nice vintage/retro renders, depending on your styling

https://www.daz3d.com/dforce-mk-liz-business-suit-for-genesis-9

- fifties, sixties maybe?

https://www.daz3d.com/dforce-tour-guide-uniform-for-genesis-8-females

- very sixties to me, not only useful for tour guides ;)

https://www.daz3d.com/dforce-twiggy-outfit-and-bicycle-for-genesis-9

- iconic 60s dress style, with lovely moto bike!

https://www.daz3d.com/saddle-shoes-for-genesis-8-females

- good everyday shoes for 1930s through 1960s I should think

https://www.daz3d.com/classic-and-walking-shoes-for-genesis-8-and-81-males

- some truly classic styles in here for 1920s through today for males I think, some more modern

https://www.daz3d.com/collection-of-classic-bags-for-genesis-9-feminine

- good for 60s and later at least, maybe even earlier, I’m not too familiar with purse styles

https://www.daz3d.com/dforce-padrino-outfit-for-genesis-9

- 50s, 60s

7 - Roaring Twenties / Depressed Thirties / WWII (1920-1945)

https://www.daz3d.com/steamed-crown

- feels perfectly 1920s-ish for me, textures will need reworking

https://www.daz3d.com/timeless-vintage-shoes-for-genesis-9

- really extensive set texturewise – for 20s and 30s I feel

https://www.daz3d.com/dforce-spencer-dress-for-genesis-9

- one of those short boxy dresses that can work for a number of settings, depending on the overall styling – 1920s would work for sure

https://www.daz3d.com/x-fashion-retro-dance-for-genesis-8-81-and-genesis-9

- 1920s show girl, fascinator/headband could also be used for more formal get ups with a different dress

https://www.daz3d.com/dforce-uniform-styles-for-genesis-9

- WWII uniform styles, I can’t say anything about their accuracy in detail but they seem to generally fit the era’s uniform style well enough

https://www.daz3d.com/jiwoo-pumps-for-genesis-8-females

- Mary Jane style shoes have been around for some time and so can be used in different period settings

https://www.daz3d.com/dforce-1920s-vintage-outfit-for-genesis-9-8-and-81

- nice to see a bit longer 20s dress for once, also nice accessories; not totally convinced of the cut itself (especially the belt area and the straps, but also not sure if long-short skirts like this were a thing), but should work well enough with some adjustments or clever positioning of the figure

https://www.daz3d.com/dforce-hc-double-button-dress-for-genesis-8-females

- used as a coat and not a dress (use Thickener!), this would be great for different periods, especially 30s and 60s come to mind, depending on how you accesorize it

https://www.daz3d.com/dforce-hnc24-shawl-collar-suit-outfit-for-genesis-9

- this might seem strange to add here, but the belted jacket and the long skirt do give me 1930s vibes, although the skirt should probably be tighter and more figure-hugging

https://www.daz3d.com/dforce-detective-outfit-for-genesis-9

- one of those typical loosely vintage-y mens’ outfits, male fashion really changed only by nuances for such a long time; the main problem here that would need to be addressed is, as almost always with these outfits, the waistcoat that is cut way too low for true vintage styles

https://www.daz3d.com/block-heel-pumps-for-genesis-9-8-and-81-female

- another useful Mary Jane style shoe

https://www.daz3d.com/dforce-50s-daisy-outfit-for-genesis-9-and-8-female

- primarily 50s, but would also work for a 1930s setting

https://www.daz3d.com/dforce-spr-suit-dress-for-genesis-9

- it seems weird at first, especially with that strange texture in the first promo, and the neckline is cut too low I feel, but with the skirt lengthened or its shortness hidden, this would work for 1930s, 1940s (latter esp. if you managed to make the shoulders more pronounced)

https://www.daz3d.com/dforce-pulp-safari-outfit-for-genesis-9-and-8-female

- another one of these useful, skirt-and-blouse women vintage outfits (boots seem weird though)

https://www.daz3d.com/dforce-night-date-outfit-for-genesis-8-and-8-1f

- the pants are giving me 30s and 40s wide leg trousers vibes, also 60s, 70s palazzo style, so quite versatile

https://www.daz3d.com/dforce-tennis-style-dress-for-genesis-9-8-and-81

- I think this could be turned into a 1920s outfit with little effort

https://www.daz3d.com/dforce-combat-ready-outfit-for-genesis-9

- looks vaguely WWII style to me

https://www.daz3d.com/dforce-apron-suit-hd-clothes-for-victoria-9

- a very nice add-on set for any busy housewife in the 20th century, I should think from 1920s through 1970s – with varying dresses/skirts underneath for the first half of the century

https://www.daz3d.com/dforce-pret-romper-suit-set-for-genesis-9-feminine-and-8-females

- this feels to me like a sports/leisure/boating suit for the 20s/30s for some reason, probably the collar

https://www.daz3d.com/dforce-brz-sailor-uniform-and-poses-for-genesis-9

- as mentioned before, any kind of sailor-like suit is always useful for kids’ clothes; as this looks more modern because of the wway the fabric falls and of the short sleeves, I’m putting this here rather than into the Victorian section

https://www.daz3d.com/dforce-brz-belted-dress-and-poses-for-genesis-9

- if you use this as a coat (use Thickener!) with a dress underneath, together with the poses, this makes for very nice vintage/retro renders, depending on your styling

https://www.daz3d.com/dforce-elegant-sailor-one-piece-for-genesis-9

- dress gives me 1930s vibes, besides possible children’s suits use

https://www.daz3d.com/drama-queen-outfit-for-genesis-9

- okay, hear me out, the jacket is actually amazingly useful for a moderate ‘mutton leg’ sleeve style in Victorian times as well as 1940s emphasized shoulders!

https://www.daz3d.com/40s-grable-swimsuit-decades-of-swimwear-the-40s

- as it says, a 40s-style swimsuit which could also double for an undies set I feel

https://www.daz3d.com/dforce-hnc-tweed-mini-jacket-outfit-for-genesis-8-and-81-females

- the top could work in any period from maybe 1930s to 1960s, it looks just like a well-tailored, more formal kind of top, could even be a jacket if you don’t show the short sleeves

I'm new to Daz and experimenting with characters. I loaded Victoria 8.1 (color pic) and then immediately used Send to Blender, and then when imported with bridge the model looks different (gray pic). Any pointers what might be wrong?

I wish Legacy UVs for Genesis 8: Victoria 4 was on sale.  I spend way too much to be retired !

Taoz!  Thank you!!  You have 89 Characters!!!  How wonderful!!!  

I love this thread you mentioned.  I love Madderlium stuff so much!!

Elor said:

Maybe it's her morph, but I think the skin, brows and ears are from someone else (no idea who): Victoria 9 is in the fifth render, with her skin and brows (there is also Mira 9 in other renders).

Thanks, that's what I thought too (that the morph shape is Victoria 9). I've love to know the skin texture set that 1st couple of renders was taken from.

Jan_Scrapper said:

Guys, thank you for all of your replies!!

What awesome information!  

I love Maddelirium products!  I have 25 of them!!  I am so glad she is here at Daz3D now.

I just tested a couple of V4 products in Daz Studio.  One I tested was Mystique, which did turn out pretty good.  I attached a comparison.  I let each on render a second, but tells a lot!!

I want MDD Pearl for G8F IRAY Only | Daz 3D.  She looks like Freddy Mercury!  So cute!!

Havos  That is facinating!  I didn't know you could use morphs and textures on G8F that are for V4.  I can do that with G2F with V4 Skins Auto Converter for Genesis 2 Female(s) | Daz 3D and Generation 4 Legacy Shapes for Genesis 2 Female(s) | Daz 3D.

I don't have MDD Kelsey!!  I love her!  What tools did you use?

Thank you all for helping me!!

 

I also used Generation X to get the morphs from V4 to G3F, and then X-Transfer to move the G3F morphs to G8F.

To get the V4 textures to G3F UV (which will work on G3 or G8) I used Blacksmith 3D's Texture Transformer, which does a really good job. That is a tool that was once on sale here, then moved to Renderosity, but unfortunately is not available anywhere now. I think the company that sold it has since disbanded, which is a shame as it is the only tool that does this job easily. The only alternative is to use a texture baker like available in Blender, as mentioned above. I can't say anything about that, as I have never used it.

The other alternative is this: https://www.daz3d.com/legacy-uvs-for-genesis-8-victoria-4, with which you can use the V4 skins directly on G8F without converting them to G3 UV.

Maybe it's her morph, but I think the skin, brows and ears are from someone else (no idea who): Victoria 9 is in the fifth render, with her skin and brows (there is also Mira 9 in other renders).

Hey, is this character (great FeSoul hair product: FE Elegant Updo Hair for Genesis 9 and 8 Female | Daz 3D) in the main promo render Victoria 9, but with makeup from another character? A standalone makeup set? Another character altogether? Or just the normals, displacements and shader materials of another character on Victoria 9?

Thanks!

Lots of nice renders (including ones I'll not quote !).

paulawp (marahzen) said:

Before I go do something with that giant pile of G8 poses that I just bought, I finished this minor WIP that uses a bunch of stuff that I just picked up in the last week or so:

https://www.daz3d.com/dforce-hnc25-knit-cardigan-outfit-for-genesis-9

A lenght morph on a skirt that can add enough lenght to end under the knee is not that common.

She looks very fancy and ready to take on winter cold :)

SilverGirl said:

coat: https://www.daz3d.com/classic-trenchcoat-for-genesis-3-male-s (comes with a nice flare morph, had to parent to the jacket and then use geometry editor to hide some persistent pokethrough bits)

She seems to have the time of her life :)

I don't know if it could apply to your situation, and you may already know about them, but Weight Mapped Push Modifiers can help a lot to deal with pokethroughs when layering clothes from various products. If you have clothes by Mada, the ones with dForce usually have a WMPM already applied, and there is a tutoriel explaining how to use the ones Mada created (which is used exactly how every other one is used).

ArtCollaboration shared a tutorial about using them (to deform a body), explaining how to create one for items who don't have one already:

I don't remember if she's speaking about hidding clothes with, but it's usually done by placing the push modifier onto the clothes to hide (setting a negative value for that Push Modifier), except when you have to hide them behind something a bit too open ended (like strappy shoes), in this case, it's can be better to place the push modifier onto the clothes on top of the other (with a positive value). And of course, you can use two push modifiers, one on each piece of clothing if needed.

tsroemi said:

"Shades of Orange after Rain" (well ... duh ...)

I'm definitely not a dog person but this one look cute with how they are watching their owner, and the overall render is nice :) It gave the mood of being at the dusk of a rainy day, when rain finally stopped obscuring the sun :)

If you want a very short video on DoF, with a couple of useful tips, here is one where Jay Versluis and Colm Jackson are speaking about DoF:

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I have a new render, done for 'Llola Lane’s RENDER A MONTH Challenge 2025' with some products bough recently:  it is called 'Morning stroll in Tokyo' (but maybe Street of Japan 2 is supposed to be about Kyoto

New products are:

• https://www.daz3d.com/playful-styles-for-everyday-2-clothes-and-poses-Texture-Add-on (pants' textures)
• https://www.daz3d.com/dforce-archmage
• https://www.daz3d.com/z-city-bike (I forgot to link it in the gallery, but to be fair, it's not very visible, behind the utility pole and Lacey, and well outside the 'DoF area').
• https://www.daz3d.com/everyday-2-for-genesis-8-females
• https://www.daz3d.com/sporty-for-everyday-2 (shirt's textures)

I got the first threes during the poses flash sale, and got the other two a couple of days later because I wanted the base outfit and some textures too :)

I didn't list Victoria's and Lacey's poses, not because it's my own creation (I wish I was able to pull something like that off, maybe one day, in the meantime, as the saying goes, 'for everything else, there's Mastercard' ) but because it's a product by @ParallaxCreates which was recently pulled from the store, so not linkable anymore.

Outside of Lacey's arm carrying the umbrella everything is as close as possible to the original poses (made for Victoria 8.1 and Michael 8.1 and G8F / G8M).

A short story:

Victoria and Lacey were enjoying a lovely morning stroll in Tokyo, in the neighbourhood around their hotel.

*grumble grumble*

*sshhhhh*

Taking to heart the advice of someone living in Japan they both followed on Youtube, Lacey carried their umbrella, to protect them from the already hot and aggressive sun.

*Wait, wait, it’s not pos… *

At the corner of two small streets, they made a pause and ended with Lacey leaning toward Victoria…

*It’s not possib…*

*WE KNOW IT’S A DREAM! You’re supposed to be the rational part among us, you don’t need to be the obnoxious one either. Let us enjoy a happy dream!*

Outside of the dream, in their flat in the US, unaware of the bickering between parts of her brain, Victoria moved a bit in her sleep, snuggling closer to Lacey before jumping right in a new sleep cycle, hoping the dream would resume right after it was stopped.

After a two months hiatus, the idea that was on the back of my brain since mid-april, jumped my brain yesterday (just before I was going to sleep…) and here's my entry for July, straight from the oven: 'Morning stroll in Tokyo'

Victoria and Lacey were enjoying a lovely morning stroll in Tokyo, in the neighbourhood around their hotel.

*grumble grumble*

*sshhhhh*

Taking to heart the advice of someone living in Japan they both followed on Youtube, Lacey carried their umbrella, to protect them from the already hot and aggressive sun.

*Wait, wait, it’s not pos… *

At the corner of two small streets, they made a pause and ended with Lacey leaning toward Victoria…

*It’s not possib…*

*WE KNOW IT’S A DREAM! You’re supposed to be the rational part among us, you don’t need to be the obnoxious one either. Let us enjoy a happy dream!*

Outside of the dream, in their flat in the US, unaware of the bickering between parts of her brain, Victoria moved a bit in her sleep, snuggling closer to Lacey before jumping right in a new sleep cycle, hoping the dream would resume right after it was stopped.

All items used should be listed in the gallery, except the poses used for Lacey and Victoria, who are a creation of @ParallaxCreates, who is now selling elsewhere (see this discussion).

Edit:

nattaruk said:

I didn't watch that render close enough, but now that I did, the shadows casted on the ground by the tree elevate the overall mood of your render: great work :)

GloperDudes said:

Can someone please help me identify the model/face of this Inga Hair model by Toyen 
Its mature but beautiful red hair style face.
https://www.daz3d.com/inga-hair-for-genesis-9

Hello there,
unfortunately I don't remember what the exact character mix was in these promos. The skin textures are definitely Victoria 9. The head shape is probably Victoria 9 mixed with some other characters. 
Hope this helps! 
Toyen

Feels like Victoria 9 to me too.

If you want to ask a question to @Toyen, there is a commercial thread (without any guarantee of a positive answer: in previous case, Toyen didn't remember what was used to create the promo renders).

https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/611801/

Victoria 9 I think?

Hello,

Inspirationless as I am at the moment, I was viewing the promos used for Victoria 8 in her product page in order to gather some ideas about what to render next. And I've really liked the white bra and panty pair that she is wearing in the main promo picture. I wonder if somebody can recognize what product are they from.

EDIT: Actually, I've found out the answer. You see, immediately after I posted this topic, I returned to her product page and then thought about browsing through the products bundled with her. And I've found that this bra and panty pair belongs to this product included in her Pro bundle, which thankfully I already own. :)

Bad joint bendings is pretty much self explaining, by looking at G9 femine character joints when posing.

I don't understand, what more to say about it.

The main question is: Does it look like human posing or more like Poser4 Victoria 4 posing?
what does it more look like?

Matt_Castle said:

Masterstroke said:

There must be a reason then, why " we're going down that G9 rabbit hole again". 

"Beating a dead horse" would count as a reason.

In this respect, I have asked many times what people complaining about G9 actually want. (I usually get ignored).

Looking at the five answers I can actually imagine:

1) Daz should change the G9 base.
Impossible (at least, by any reasonable definition of what is possible). Changing G9 would break any characters or clothing built on it.

2) Force vendors to stop using G9 and go back to G8.
Would start a riot, both from those creators who prefer working with G9, and from those users who want G9. And it's not like we're getting no G8 content. We're actually still getting quite a lot more than two years after it was officially superseded.

3) Force vendors to develop everything for both G8 and G9.
Would basically double the development work for some products, so prices would have to rise to match. Those vendors who've decided this is viable for them are already doing this. The vendors who didn't want to do this would move to other stores where Daz couldn't force them.

4) Bury G9 and create a new G10.
No-one would agree on what they want G10 to be any more than they have G9, except now you'd have people whining about having to buy all the basic generation resources all over again.

5) "Give us the HD tools!"
It is extremely clear this is not going to happen. Also, as previously discussed, HD really isn't as useful or necessary as some people think it is. Anyone who could get meaningful use out of the HD tools should already be capable of creating normal maps, displacement maps or geografts to add to the mesh density.

I am willing to be amazed by some magnificent solution which I have not already imagined and addressed, but as someone who has a much better technical understanding of this than many, I can assure you that solutions that might seem simple or obvious are far more likely to actually be impossible.

 

 

 

Yes it a dead horse, but dead horse are pretty annoying.

First, the DAZ marketplace becomes pretty much obsolete to me, because it is all abou an inferior figure.

Second the way that the G9 mesh is designed is leading to horrible mesh bendings, and therefor to ugly poses.

The splitting off of Eyey balls, mouth and what ever to be separate figures makes it more complicated than helpful.

The unisex layout requiers more layers of JCMs, so more data.

One layer of JCMs for the core figure, one layer for male and female base and a third layer for the character morph, which almost no vendor want to invest the time for.

The female base looks again like a stylized Barbie, but unlike G8F it semms even harder to correct this with custom sculpting.

It must be difficult for most Vendors as well, because no Vendor seemed to have been able ( or willing) to get rid of this Barbie like body characteristics.

I pretty much have collected everything from this shop, that is useful to me for G8F.

I wish, I could use G9 hair, but restrictions with sbh makes that impossible.

And no, I just cannot accept, that I am restricted from purchasing an HD tool, here, although the formula could be easy. 
For sale, but free for vendors.

Only environments are left useful to me inthe DAZ shop.

I am stuck here with my character here.

If there was an easy way of migrating my character with geografts, geoshells, MCMs and JCMs to another plattform, I'd be already gone.

I am just thinking, that DAZ Studio will go down the same route as Poser did.

G9 is as horrible to me as Victoria 4 used to be.

G3 is what brought me to DAZ studio, G9 is what gets me away from it.

This all made me feel nostalgic so I dug Victoria 4 out of my runtime, applied the Alice Faerie morph, didn't bother to convert to iray and rendered

Jaws by Peter Benchley

Postwork: Photoshop

Freebies:

Shark: https://www.cgtrader.com/free-3d-models/animals/fish/great-white-shark-model-e1dfb677-6236-4d5d-9e14-9a5a744542d1

Human legs: https://www.renderhub.com/vfoxgames/vfox-victoria-for-genesis-8-female-mothers-day-2025-gift

Shorts on human legs: https://www.renderhub.com/mavissky/ms-short-pajamas

Background water: https://pixabay.com/photos/seawater-blue-water-under-the-sea-1666310/

Bubbles: https://www.brusheezy.com/brushes/57610-free-splash-photoshop-brushes

No AI.

Payat Parin said:

Jaws by Peter Benchley

 

Postwork: Photoshop

 

 

Freebies:

Shark: https://www.cgtrader.com/free-3d-models/animals/fish/great-white-shark-model-e1dfb677-6236-4d5d-9e14-9a5a744542d1

Human legs: https://www.renderhub.com/vfoxgames/vfox-victoria-for-genesis-8-female-mothers-day-2025-gift

Shorts on human legs: https://www.renderhub.com/mavissky/ms-short-pajamas

Background water: https://pixabay.com/photos/seawater-blue-water-under-the-sea-1666310/

Bubbles: https://www.brusheezy.com/brushes/57610-free-splash-photoshop-brushes

 

No AI.

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