Anyway, to continue with the ERC part of the query.

The ERCLink constructor requires a DzNumericProperty as the controller, and the slave has to have an insertController() method. This is the sort of thing I've currently got,slaving on DzProperty to another DzProperty:

     oERCLink = new DzERCLink( DzERCLink.ERCAdd, oIntChipCntProperty ); //Set up the controller
     oIntChipCntMinusOneProperty.insertController(oERCLink); // Set the slave

So the question is, does a DzModifier have an insertController() method ?
Time for this software monkey to go climb the DAZ Script Object hierarchy tree...

...already found a DzNumericProperty.insertController() banana.

The morph is controlled by a slider, and that slider must be associated with a DzNumericProperty, yes ? So it should just be a case of finding that.
There's no DzNumericProperty declared in DzModifier
But next branch up the hierarchy is DzElement, which has methods such as addProperty() and findPropertyByLabel().

Adding an extra bit of chewing gum to that scrip snippet...

			oPropObj = oNode.getObject()
			if (oPropObj){
				print("oPropObj="+oPropObj.name);
				n=oPropObj.getNumModifiers()
				for(i=0;i<n;i++){
					modi=oPropObj.getModifier(i)
					print("modifier "+i+"name = "+modi.name)
					pl=modi.getPropertyList()
					np=modi.getNumProperties()
					print(modi.name+" np = "+ np)
					for(j=0;j<np;j++){
						print(modi.name+" property "+j+": "+pl[j].name)
					}
				}
				oShape = oPropObj.getCurrentShape();
				if (oShape){
					print("oShape="+oShape.name);
				}else print("No oShape");
			} else print("No oPropObj");

...indicates that my DzModifier has a single property, 'Value'. That sounds vaguely promising.

...

2020-02-19 20:11:46.930 DEBUG: Intermediate Chip Count Minus One
2020-02-19 20:11:46.930 DEBUG: Value For Stack Height Morph
2020-02-19 20:11:46.930 DEBUG: oPropObj=ForDSimport_98
2020-02-19 20:11:46.930 DEBUG: modifier 0name = 13 Chip MT
2020-02-19 20:11:46.930 DEBUG: 13 Chip MT np = 1
2020-02-19 20:11:46.930 DEBUG: 13 Chip MT property 0: Value
2020-02-19 20:11:46.930 DEBUG: oShape=shape
2020-02-19 20:11:46.930 DEBUG: ALL DONE
2020-02-19 20:11:46.930 DEBUG: 3DCheapskate's 'AddMy4ParametersWith2ERC.dsa' Script - completed without crashing ! Hurrah !

Morph are DzModifier derivatives (DzMorphModifier, which isn't currently linked in the docs), and belong to the geometry as you say. You need to use the findModifier( name ) or getModifier( # ) and related methods as I recall.

Grab the old DS 3 scripting docs as the outline at least is in them.

Next part - can I slave a morph to a normal parameter (and assuming that I can, then how doI do it?)

face transfer you can use to do 3D versions of your faces for DAZ renders but you need to find hairs or use the strand based hair to style to match and dress them in DAZ clothes etc

Ha !

Got it ! Via the 'getNumModifiers()' and 'getModifier(#)' methods of a DzObject

			oPropObj = oNode.getObject()
			if (oPropObj){
				print("oPropObj="+oPropObj.name);
				n=oPropObj.getNumModifiers()
				for(i=0;i<n;i++){
					modi=oPropObj.getModifier(i)
					print("modifier "+i+"name = "+modi.name)
				}
				oShape = oPropObj.getCurrentShape();
				if (oShape){
					print("oShape="+oShape.name);
				}else print("No oShape");
			} else print("No oPropObj");

...outputs

...

2020-02-19 19:28:37.938 DEBUG: Value For Vertical Tiling
2020-02-19 19:28:37.938 DEBUG: Intermediate Chip Count Minus One
2020-02-19 19:28:37.938 DEBUG: Value For Stack Height Morph
2020-02-19 19:28:37.938 DEBUG: oPropObj=ForDSimport_98
2020-02-19 19:28:38.000 DEBUG: modifier 0name = 13 Chip MT
2020-02-19 19:28:38.016 DEBUG: oShape=shape
2020-02-19 19:28:38.016 DEBUG: 3DCheapskate's 'AddMy4ParametersWith2ERC.dsa' Script - completed without crashing ! Hurrah !

So a morph is a modifier on an object on a prop node !
As obvious as Wally in a "Where's Wally" picture - i.e. when you know the answer already, it's easy.

Ok- so onto the next project: The next installation of the Leading Male Morph packs!

First up- Min Joon.  (Daz does not like us to add in hyphens within names, so that is the reason why Min Joon is not Min-Joon)

Worked on his facial morphs last night and let the three views render overnight.  Lee's skin, here.

One obvious-ish place to start is by searching the object index for 'morph'.
Only three - DzMorphLoader, DzMorphLoaderBatch, DzMorphSupportAssetFilter.
Can't see anything to help me there.
But would I recognize something helpful if I saw it ?

How about the sample scripts?
Two with the word 'morph' - Save Morph Asset(s) and Silent OBJ Morph Loader Import
Can't see anything to help me there either.

Ho hum.

Edit:tantalizingly, DzMorphLoader has stuff like setControlPropertyERCCustomValue() and setMorphName() which make me think that it must be here somewhere...

Using this, which is basically the code from findElementProperty() , but printing each propertyname...

			var oProperty;
			var oPropertyGroupTree = oNode.getPropertyGroups();
			var oPropertyGroup = oPropertyGroupTree.getFirstChild();
			var aProperties = [];
			if( oPropertyGroup ){
				var nProperties = oPropertyGroup.getNumProperties();
				aProperties = new Array( nProperties );
				for( var i = 0; i < nProperties; i += 1 )
					aProperties[ i ] = oPropertyGroup.getProperty( i );
				aProperties = aProperties.concat( getGroupProperties( oPropertyGroup.getFirstChild() ) );
				aProperties = aProperties.concat( getGroupProperties( oPropertyGroup.getNextSibling() ) );
			} 
			for( var i = 0; i < aProperties.length; i += 1 ){
				oProperty = aProperties[i];
				print(oProperty.name)
			}

...I get this...

2020-02-19 15:46:04.142 DEBUG: >>>ALERT:'13 Chip MT' NOT FOUND
2020-02-19 15:46:04.142 DEBUG: XTranslate
2020-02-19 15:46:04.142 DEBUG: YTranslate
2020-02-19 15:46:04.142 DEBUG: ZTranslate
2020-02-19 15:46:04.142 DEBUG: XRotate
2020-02-19 15:46:04.142 DEBUG: YRotate
2020-02-19 15:46:04.142 DEBUG: ZRotate
2020-02-19 15:46:04.142 DEBUG: Scale
2020-02-19 15:46:04.142 DEBUG: XScale
2020-02-19 15:46:04.142 DEBUG: YScale
2020-02-19 15:46:04.142 DEBUG: ZScale
2020-02-19 15:46:04.142 DEBUG: Point At
2020-02-19 15:46:04.142 DEBUG: Disable Transform
2020-02-19 15:46:04.142 DEBUG: Geometry
2020-02-19 15:46:04.142 DEBUG: lodlevel
2020-02-19 15:46:04.142 DEBUG: SubDIALevel
2020-02-19 15:46:04.142 DEBUG: SubDRenderLevel
2020-02-19 15:46:04.142 DEBUG: SubDAlgorithmControl
2020-02-19 15:46:04.142 DEBUG: SubDEdgeInterpolateLevel
2020-02-19 15:46:04.142 DEBUG: SubDNormalSmoothing
2020-02-19 15:46:04.142 DEBUG: Visible
2020-02-19 15:46:04.142 DEBUG: Visible in Viewport
2020-02-19 15:46:04.142 DEBUG: Selectable
2020-02-19 15:46:04.142 DEBUG: Renderable
2020-02-19 15:46:04.142 DEBUG: Cast Shadows
2020-02-19 15:46:04.142 DEBUG: Render Priority
2020-02-19 15:46:04.142 DEBUG: Visible in Simulation
2020-02-19 15:46:04.142 DEBUG: Value
2020-02-19 15:46:04.142 DEBUG: Total Number Of Chips
2020-02-19 15:46:04.142 DEBUG: Vertical Tiles
2020-02-19 15:46:04.142 DEBUG: Intermediate Chip Count
2020-02-19 15:46:04.142 DEBUG: Value For Vertical Tiling
2020-02-19 15:46:04.142 DEBUG: Intermediate Chip Count Minus One
2020-02-19 15:46:04.142 DEBUG: Value For Stack Height Morph
2020-02-19 15:46:04.142 DEBUG: 3DCheapskate's 'AddMy4ParametersWith2ERC.dsa' Script - completed without crashing ! Hurrah !

No '13 Chip MT' in sight.

Answer Part 1: A morph is a DzModifier on a DzShape on a DzObject on a DzNode, and not a DzProperty on a DzNode. Simple ! See this post below.

Answer Part 2: That's not quite true - a morph is actually a DzMorph, which is an undocumented derivative of DzModifier. See Richards comments below, here and here. The morph name is the name property of the DzMorph itself. However, the numeric value for the morph (which is what you see/control with the morph slider) is a DzProperty (having the name "Value") on the DzMorph.  To get/set the numeric value of the morph you call the getValue()/setValue() method of the DzProperty called "Value".
Can you see why I refer to all of this as Object Obfuscation ?

Answer Part 3: So to control a morph from an ordinary parameter it appears that you set up an ERC link in the usual way using the insertController() method of the DzProperty named "Value" on the DzMorph. I think

~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ORIGINAL OP STARTS HERE ~ ~ ~ ~ ~

I have a simple prop with a single node.

Creating a DzERCLink between two sliders on the Parameters tab is not (usually) a problem ( https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/342486/creating-a-simple-dzerclink-between-two-new-parameters/p1 )

Controlling a slider on the Surfaces tab from a slider on the Parameters tab is not (usually) a problem either ( https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/341521/creating-dependencies-between-settings-on-the-surfaces-tab-and-parameters-tab/p1 )

But I now find myself wanting to control a Morph slider from a Parameters slider, and  I'd assumed that the morph slider would be just another Dzproperty.
But despite the morph showing on the Parameters tab...

...I can't seem to access it in the same way as other parameters.
E.g.. the following gives me '13 Chip MT' NOT FOUND

		var aNodes = Scene.getSelectedNodeList();
		...
		oNode = aNodes[0];
		...
		if( findElementProperty( oNode, "13 Chip MT" ) ) showAlert( "'13 Chip MT' already exists" );
		else  showAlert( "'13 Chip MT' NOT FOUND" );
		...

As usual, it's highly likely that I'm missing something obvious/doing something stupid.
Which is why I'm asking.

P.S. findElementProperty() is a function/method/whatever-you-call-it from this sample  http://docs.daz3d.com/doku.php/public/software/dazstudio/4/referenceguide/scripting/api_reference/samples/elements/post_load_material_proxy_create/start (that link doesn't seem to work, but if you copy the URL and paste it goes to the right place,and gets a 'not found' because they've changed the darn URL!)

I bought the script... Very deluded by the results...

The shapes I transferred from Genesis1 to Genesis3 (which works fine in G3) are totally distorted once transferred from 3 to 8.  Wavy arms, arched legs, bumped neck...

There will be an addon to make a direct transfer? Or perhaps I'm doing something wrong, even if the script is really simple and I followed step by step all the phases?

Hi everyone,
I've made a simple body-suit in z-brush (extract) and I'm trying to make it work with my daz model.
1. Imported the z-Brush extract
2. Transfer tool utility : Genesis 3 Female -> 1 (The suit).  At this point, Daz will "build projection map" then
3. It just get destroyed.
Any idea what I'm doing wrong here ?
(Image removed for nudity. Please read acceptable ways to handle nudity here)

As I'm not seeing any image, this is a wild guess. Something is wrong with the mesh. Preferably it is made of quads and all points are welded. Also however it was imported, it had to be landing exactly in place too.

1. Load figure.

2. Import in clothing .obj

3. Run transfer utility.

4. Hopefully that works and then one saves the figure.

From the tiny bars for the options on the Parameters Tab, uncheck show hidden. Morphs that do not appear to be working tend to be hidden morphs that are triggered when a non-hidden morph is used.

 

Rather disappointed in Shangrila by Mousso. Her morph is lovely but her skin lacks depth and is waaaay to yellow and orange. Even worse is that her face has a different tone than the rest of her body, so when I tried to balance out her complexion by adding blue to her skin, either her body or her face were always not quite right. I just requested a refund.

Shangrila's main thing is that she's an overpaint of an FWSA Skinvent texture, and once you do that, it's hard to get detail back into the diffuse. She's also got a truly odd SSS layer; it's much darker than her diffuse, and I'm pretty sure that skin doesn't quite work that way.

Her face is different, yes. It's set in from a different source than the rest of Skinvent, and then color matched, and it's hard to do that well. I do think her default shader made that much stronger than it is; A8L8 seems to mute it somewhat. Somewhat.

I did wind up editing her hands and feet, because they were just weird. The lines on her palm had been drawn back in to be darker than the surrounding skin, which is good ... but they were perpendicular to where they should have been, which was truly weird.

The yellowness that you saw was primarily due to her shader, rather than her texture. I shifted her to a different shader model with Altern8 for Lee 8 (A8L8), which both brought out what little detail she had, and undid the yellowness. I also tweaked that shader setting pretty hard to reduce her translucency weight, because A8L8 is meant for a lighter-skinned character; a translucency weight of .65 for a darker skinned character is kind of ridiculous. And then I gave her different translucency maps. I probably wouldn't have done any of that if I'd looked at her in the first 30 days I had her, but, well ... such is life. Anyway, she's workable now, I think.

Hi everyone,
I've made a simple body-suit in z-brush (extract) and I'm trying to make it work with my daz model.
1. Imported the z-Brush extract
2. Transfer tool utility : Genesis 3 Female -> 1 (The suit).  At this point, Daz will "build projection map" then
3. It just get destroyed.
Any idea what I'm doing wrong here ?
(Image removed for nudity. Please read acceptable ways to handle nudity here)

I'm trying to figure out what I did wrong.  I loaded Gianni 7 into the scene.  I favorited the Gianni 7 morph under Gianni7->Actor->People->Real World and the Gianni 7 head under Gianni7->Head->People->Real World.  The script ran through to completion and then I loaded a Gensis 8 base character and then cranked the XT Gianni 7 Body morphs under Genesis 8 Male->Actor->Xtransfer->Full Body->People->Real World to 100% and got the figure on the left.  What am I doing wrong?  Does this script work for base Genesis 3 characters like Gianni 7?

Greetings all,

I used the "Transfer Utility" tool on one of the models I downloaded from Mixamo.com in an attempt to make it more compatible with Daz. Genesis 8 male was the donor, and now every time I load any g8m-based character none of my morph sliders work. Worse yet, when I reload a scene with g8m in it, the Mixamo model is what shows up (see attached screenshot). I deleted everything I downloaded from Mixamo, deleted all my saved scenes that had g8m in them, I've manually uninstalled and deleted all g8m content (including g8 starter essentials) then reloaded them with DIM, I've uninstalled and reinstalled Daz. Nothing has worked so far, and I'm at my wit's end with this. The effect has spread to all my g8m characters and made them non-functional. If anybody at all has any experience with this or something similar, I'd greatly appreciate your pointing me in the right direction.

If your new computer is running a 64-bit system, you'll want to be sure to download and install the 64-bit version of Studio. I'm not sure you had that option in DS3. (I certainly didn't.)

Unfortunately, you will be limited to just the current version of the program (4.12), and the public release of the (slightly newer beta.

DAZ doesn't give you any option for dwnloading any earlier versions -- although there may be an earlier version of DS4 out there on a CD somewhere. But I'd tend to advise against deliberately trying to find older versions, since eventually your OS won't support them.

The program itself is still installed through an installer, but you can also install through DIM or Connect (I think. I don't use either of those so cannot say for sure).

The program still includes a selection of free content, including *all* the different Genesis base characters. You may need to download and install them separately, but they should be in the purchase history of your account. The morph and expression packs are separate purchases, however. Kind of like the old Morphs++ packs.

There are a coupe of morph packs by PedroFurtadoArts, one for G8F and one for G8M called 20 Unique Smiles. The promos look distinctly scary, but the morphs are designed to be dialed only partially in, so they can be mixed. There are other morph packs for smiles as well. 

Actually there are a lot of them. Just do a store search on 'Smile' and you'll get a swarm of them. Of course they will go all the way back to gen4, if not earlier, but they are certainy there.

Rather disappointed in Shangrila by Mousso. Her morph is lovely but her skin lacks depth and is waaaay to yellow and orange. Even worse is that her face has a different tone than the rest of her body, so when I tried to balance out her complexion by adding blue to her skin, either her body or her face were always not quite right. I just requested a refund.

Not mentioning any names, but there are some PAs here who probably shouldn't be creating black characters.

 

For future reference, when you say "expanding hair morphs", you're taking about simply selecting the hair and playing with the "scale"?

No, some hairs have morph sliders, just like morphs on your character.

Ahh, gotcha.

Ya'll are so helpful.

Thank you!