No encrypted for me.
This discussion has been closed.
Daz 3D is part of 
Connect
DAZ Productions, Inc.
7533 S Center View Ct #4664
West Jordan, UT 84084
Licensing Agreement | Terms of Service | Privacy Policy | EULA
© 2025 Daz Productions Inc. All Rights Reserved.
Comments
..+1.
Well I was wrong then, it was in the beta threads ;)
.
Here's the relevant article: http://archive.sltrib.com/story.php?ref=/53801962
Heh... Was using the content library pane. The available product list in smart content was one of the broken parts that forced the reset and I'd forgotten it was there.
So I won't be going to Utah to deliver a stern rebuke and a bag of crushed backups. Pity, was looking forward to the part where I ride off into the sunset on a white horse and flipping the bird as i vanished into the distance. It was going to be epic. People would have written poems... Ah well gotta get library fixed. Even in batches it'll likely take a while...
...did a little more digging and apparently the Foundry's owners (Carslyle Group) had put the company up for sale for £200 million. The two most likely suitors mentioned are Adobe and Autodesk.
There was an article I read short while back that made it sound like it was a done deal.
Actually that was the strategy from the start with DS. They always had a free version to attract users, even when they also had commercial "advanced" versions for DS3 and at the begining for DS4.
Giving away the pro version of DS4 was an extension of that strategy, but it also meant that all users also had access to the development tools and so were able to develop content for the newly released Genesis.
The Foundry was purcahsed by a new fund isntead http://www.thefoundry.co.uk/about-us/news-awards/the-foundry-announces-new-investment-from-hgcapital/ (not that this is relvant to the thread, other than as a warning aginst trusting the rumour mill).
...tried Wings3D (again since it went 64 Bit) and it's UI is still just bothersome to look at for very long. Maybe Daz should just let an open source group take Hexagon over.
...I wasn't involved with 3D yet when this went down. Interestingly. I actually worked for a tech company that this happened to.
My question though is what purpose would it serve to hold these two programmes back from further development when all Daz had going at the time was Studio 1.0. Neither were/are a "competitive threat" as Daz Studio to this day still does not have polygon/vertex modelling or 3D environment generation capabilities and most likely never will. Makes absolutely no sense.
...well, in a way discussing modelling software is relevant as it is another option to using DRM content since it allows you to make your own content.
..and why am I having to click on the spell check button three to four times to get it to work lately?
Man this is a long thread. Can anyone tell me if I will be able to use content from my two different accounts at the same time or if I log out of one will the content become unavailable in my scene file? I have kept a second account for my client paid models for years, but I suspect this will screw that up.
anyone know?
I'm having trouble finding the reference, but I think it was in the former Daz CEO's article about leaving and forming his new site, etc. I'm probably not allowed to link it here but it's googleable.
I found a reference that said a new beta for Carrara went out mid last year, but that was it. We're told it's still being developed. It's reasonable to assume Bryce and Hexagon are not considering their massively discounted prices, but it'd be nice to have announcements / information on the sale pages one way or another if they're going to continue to sell discontinued software without admitting that it's been discontinued and will support even less Daz store content with this encryption addition.
I don't know the answer but I've read all of this thread and don't remember seeing it discussed. From memory there's no way to log into an account twice in the client - but so long as the items are not being newly installed via Connect then nothing should change though?
Well, UI can be a sticking point. Took me forever to really work with Daz Studio because the UI just bugged me compared to what I was used to.
I made my IOArmor in Wings. My first (so far only) foray into product development. If the poser formats hadn't been open plaintext that I could learn to read and puzzle out, I don't think I'd have tried.
That is one of the real worrying parts of this. Being locked into handholding developer tools without being able to know the nuts and bolts of how what you're trying to make is put together. It isn't a big deal now, but what about when some new feature is released? How far would we have gotten with Genesis if all the features had been hidden behind locked file formats? We'd have to hope developer tools were well made because we certainly couldn't make them ourselves. Look at the dynamic cloth situation. We've got... Yeah I don't see it used much.
That would be cool, then we could continue with the older content. I am not finding a reason for moving beyond G2 so I will problably not be buying much of the newer connect only stuff. Unless they decide to encript previously released.... ok not making any accusations, just thinking out loud.
The only thing so far that is Connect only is Encrypted content, so you're safe to use any generation of models include Genesis 3. And if it turns out ot be unpopular, I don't expect DAZ to continue with it.
4.9 for DIM works the same as ever; as far as I can tell, and we have been told it does/should. So anything outside of Connect should be fine.
Connect: no idea, but I have my suspicions.
Didn't follow the Carrara and Hexagon acquisition very closely, but that scenario wasn't one I saw discussed for Bryce - which I did follow.
There are legal / ownership issues with Bryce that you can read about (to some degree) in the threads of the Bryce forum here. These are a major reason for the lack of development of Bryce, and the difficulty of moving it on to other parties.
The normal software development cycle doesn't seem to suit DAZ well. Even Studio has glacial progress. Advancing Carrara & co must be tough when your main focus is on banging multiple new stuff out the door every day.
Do you move your actual files or do you use the custom categories? I am currently experimenting on a computer that is unimportant as far as daz goes with 4.9. So far, the custom categories are working like they always have, nothing has been moved and nothing has been broken and I am able to continue adding categories also with no problem. My understanding is that the encrypted products cannot be put in the custom categories but all the other content can. Its been upgraded for about 48 hours but I won't be back to work until Monday. I know a couple people have said the custom categories worked fine for several days then something went wrong so I am going to run it at work for a couple weeks yet. Also, I installed it all via DIM I have not yet installed any encrypted content (and have no intention of buying any at this time but I do have 3 freebies that I will load on the experimental machine just to see how it works and what it does exactly.)
No... its really been that long. I don't come nearly that much since then. Daz has truly lost a lot of money from me.
I'm only trolling around Daz 4.9 because it came out with annoying new features which threaten to muck my libraries and work flow. I've already heard that 4.9 works with Octane, which I use.
You can put encrypted content in custom categories.
You can have multiple accounts logged in on a single instance of Daz Studio, and can switch between them easily (I believe you can even do it while offline). Since Smart Content in 4.9 is tied to owned products (so it can show you things you could install) instead of just installed products it will only show you whatever items the currently active account owns. You should however be able to use content from both of the accounts that have logged in to the system, if for example you use a figure from one account and an evrironment from another account in the same scene.
I'd love to hear back on your experiments.
I move my own files, make my own catagories and use content tab.
Your files will work fine. I do it all myself too and I installed 4.9.. did not log into connect... and everything was as it was in 4.8. Layout and even the open folder I was using last. :) Categories... if you've set them up in your library they'll be fine. If you've set them up through DS I can't answer that because I don't use them. I use the content tab too, not smart content.
Hope that helps.
...the thing is that the PA's are the ones doing most of the work of "banging out" content and they don't have anything to do with application development. True, Daz does the Quality Control before letting a product go to the store, but content development itself is done outside the core Daz staff.
As to Bryce, it's been over a decade now so what kind of restrictions would prevent them from upgrading it to 64 bit?
As to Carrara and Hexagon, Eovia no longer exists (e-Frontier closed their Euro operation in 2007) so I would imagine Daz would be free to either update or spin off the properties.
This ^ and this ^^ to the one-supercalifragistic-kabillionth degree, especially the part I highlighted in pink! And best of all, I can see stuff, whoohoo!
That's been conjecture for years, and it's normal for people to believe it when a company buys an asset and then lets the cobwebs form on it.
Given the number of years they continued to be updated after they were purchased, it seems doubtful that this ws the intent.
I agree! External modelling software is a viable alternative to using DRM content. A lot less convenient, and with a learning curve and other time and skill barriers, yes; but STILL relevant for comparison purposes.
Like it or not, DAZ Studio is part of a big marketplace that has a lot of viable solutions. It is perfectly valid to compare DS to other software that also includes some, all, or extra features, especially if Studio introduces inconveniences that the rest of the industry has not seen fit to push onto their users.