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To be fair it is with your permission, albeit a default opt-in ;)
Wow, I didn't know that. Thanks so much for the heads up, Simon -- and the link, Styxx. :-) I was able to check for my peace of mine, and that is set to "off." Thankfully. Download data is still going down at an unhappy rate though.
Thanks you all, for the info, I do appreciate it.
And, to give credit where credit is due, Microsoft helped me get my zip files back just now, along with the correct settings for my sites. :-) Very nice tech did a chat -- we talked about 3D, also -- then sent me some basic troubleshooting tips. #1 restored my system health. :-)
OK, I'm happy w/Windows 10 again, all fixed, except for the big downloads.
You should check the terms and conditions of your ISP. My ISP specifically states that the limit is on downloads only, there is no restriction on uploads, so if I enabled this, once I had downloaded the update, passing it on would not affect my allowance. I suppose they do this becuase most people don't upload very much. If this sort of thing becomes widespread ISPs might start imposing upload limits.
I think I disabled this, I said no to so many things in the installation it's difficult to remember them all.
And the filesharing apps are still doing this. You can get some versions of Linux through file sharing torrents, but I usually wait till I can get them from magazine cover discs.
I haven't had any problems at all with Win 10
No disappearing start menus, all smooth updates and all apps working better than they did in Windows 8 & 8.1
only conclusion is that Windows 10 works better in the southern hemishere
I am more and more grateful that when I bought my new pc in May I found one that still came with Windows 7 as an option. I can keep a pc running for 6 or 7 years. And the new one has tons of memory etc etc (I'm a pretty heavy gamer so I always look for the most powerful one I can afford). And as luck would have it, it has the newest nvidea card (hadn't found Daz yet when I bought the pc). I won't touch Windows 10 with a ten foot pole and may in fact switch to a mac when the new pc finally doesn't cut it.
Geez, torrent updating without most people even knowing it.
Checked mine... I turned it off. I seem to remember digging into the options heavily when I installed Win10 and turning off almost all default "helper" elements like this. Guess I was more thorough than I realized.
It seems to vary from person to person. :-)
One big update hung up, a couple of months ago, and I got suckered by a fake fix on the Internet. Don't want to think about that, but it was my fault. Windows 10 ended up fixing itself, thank goodness. That's when I really got very fond of it.
This last update only reset a few things (and de-activated one AV program, along w/the file assoc for .zip files). The de-activation thing got fixed fairly easily, once I got a tech, and I wasn't the only one it happened to, apparently. The "resetting" was also not uncommon, from what I read about the build on the Internet, but the file assoc thing baffled me. But it's fixed, thanks to the kind techie from MSoft. :-) And I registered a formal "please, no more gargantuan downloads at one time" request, for what it's worth. :-)
I do appreciate the info I got here, too, about the forwarding updates to other computers. My uploads are regulated, also. But that option was/is off, and I'll keep watch to make sure it stays off.
I'd add two things that might help some people: 1) in the Update section of Settings you can switch the peer-to-peer-style update sharing between "local PCs and PCs on the internet," "PCs on the local network only" (so you only download updates once per household, for example), and "no sharing), and 2) if you use any version of W10 other than Home, then after installing the November update you can follow a procedure to delay accepting new updates (although there is a limit on how far you can delay and if you use Windows Defender you cannot delay getting malware signature updates). The procedure for #2 is somewhat involved (it's designed for corporate network admins, but apparently works fine in any Windows 10 Professional system); hopefully there will be tools to automate it soon.
I don't have the update yet. I know it won't, but for a little while I can still dream that it removes Edge, or at least shoves it back in the lab until it grows up a little.
I'm also hoping it fixes whatever setting I changed that broke Cortana (via breaking Location Services probably) somepletely on my Surface. I tend to use the Surface while Iray is consuming my desktop.
Same here, flawless.
I hope this is the right place to ask, but has anyone else noticed some weird behaviour with Iray rendering after this update?
I'm asking because of the following issue i'm having (both 4.8 and 4.9):
- Load a simpel scene (1 g3f): No problem with Iray GPU rendering.
- Make the scene a bit more complex (additional/second g3 figure): No matter what the settings are (CPU / GPU selection) Iray always falls back to CPU only.
- Remove all content, except the first g3f: No matter what the settings are (CPU / GPU selection) Iray always falls back to CPU only.
I am using the latest (driver) updates in combination with 2 GFX 760 cards. This got me so frustrated that i rolled my system back to 8.1. When go thrue above steps under w8.1 , CPU/GPU selections works fine (also the complex scene renders with GPU (as it should). Again updated to w10...and again the same situation..always falls back to CPU with more than 2 Genesis 3 figures/ when the scene is a bit more complex... and again rolled back my system to w8.1, and the cards are used again for rendering when the scene is a bit more complex.
I'm monitoring my system and cards with MSI afterburner. At this time i'm keeping w8.1 as OS, but i'm curious if some else has a similar issue or something is wrong in my system.
It may be that w10 just takes more memory than w8 so the same scene will not fit in a w10 system.
When that happens and GPU gets turned off, as far as I know the GPU stays off until you restart Studio.
Thanks for the tips. :-) As for Edge, it behaves fairly well for me, now that I've learned how to motivate around in it and work the settings, thankfully.
jerham -- I haven't tried to render anything for about three days. But I render w/CPU anyhow, so I couldn't help you there. Prixat's explanation sounds logical. :-)
Thanks, that sounds logical/ as an explanation. Did not really look at that, expected a bit that the same scene uses the same amount of memory, forgot that there may be a diffrence in memory use by the OS.
I do not have the top of the line gfx cards/ system (memory amount). if this is the situation, it has quite an impact on what i can render by GPU only in comparison to W8.1 (and maybe before this update, because i did not notice this fallback before with w10).
And that's just one of the reasons people are so upset with Microsoft. Critical criticism of Microsoft for what they are doing with Windows 10 is well earned this time around.
Lol. You got a good point there.
But no, actually I was referring to the one where it is no longer free. heck, I ran this machine for a few months after xp was no longer supported before I put Win 7 64 on it, and my machine upstairs is stilllllllllllll running xp. HAHAHA!! Some folks have all the luck though,....a work associate/friend of mine was just telling me wed night how he's had nothing but good luck with Win 10. Course he went to school for this stuff and he's a darned pc wiz, even if he had problems I'm sure he'd just fix it straight away.
There are so many system components on the market that it may just be that some of us have components on our machines that just don't play well with Windows 10. Even tough the tester said the system was compatible with Windows 10.
Thats crazy, I can't believe they'd even have the nerve. They must be sleeping with that certain fellow who famously said: "Share the wealth." UH-uh! Ain't going to happen. Me and the wife work hard for our money, and we pay a good sum of our money to have the super fast connection we have, damned If I'm going to share the band-width with someone else. Glad there is a way to disable that. Microsoft makes enough money off of folks, let them add more servers and bandwidth, thats how I see it.
Word!
That'd be MS Word, would it?
MS still hasn't fixed the pixilated fonts, or the 15 year old antique UI :(
The memory use is horrid. 2GB-3GB just to sit at an idle.Then the "system" process balloons to several more GB if I start using anything.
Cortana eats up several hundred MB for some reason. I've renamed that folder several times to disable it, but windows update keeps reinstalling a new one with a new folder name, so I'm going to have to give up trying to keep Cortana off my computer.I did change the registry and gpedit to not allow users to use that feature, but I still can't simply uninstall the stuff I don't want.
I sure wish they would leave live tiles turned off as well, I really don't want to use the start menu for an advertising platform, I just want to be able to find my programs and stuff like I could on XP.They can save the adverts for their web browser.
Microsoft has to make back the $1 billion or so they lost with the first Surface table.
We can wish all we want, but I doubt Windows will be dethroned anytime soon, even with this in your face attitude Microsoft seems to have adopted.
This isn't an accurate test for you, since I use CPU rendering all the time. But I'm not seeing any loss of speed with this last update at all, where IRay is concerned. The quick image attached rendered in under five minutes. More like 3, at default settings, though. Normally, I'll use more advanced settings, but just wanted to see if IRay was slower. It doesn't seem to be, not at all. Maybe this last update put more strain on your video card, somehow.
I have an NVidia card on my old computer (just a 2 gig, so not worth switching over), and I seem to remember different settings for the card: High performance, Mid-Range, etc. Is it possible that the W10 update reset something in the NVidia Graphics card settings? Set your card to a lower performance rate?
The Windows OS turns 30-years-old. And what have we learned all this time? That the novel 1984 got a lot of things right. LOL!
Orwell was a better seer than Nostradamus....
heck yes he was.
I never read 1984.
BTW, jerham, I rendered a more complicated scene that I may put in the Gallery, and it rendered in an hour, with CPU rendering. If not an improvement, it's surely not slower.
Thanks for looking at it. I do not see a real loss of speed either ( CPU or GPU). The thing i'am seeing, is that "size" of the scene that can be rendered by GPU only, is (much) smaller under w10 than windows 8.1. And Iray falls back to CPU only much quicker.
Based on prixats comment i've been playing around a bit, i think (in my case) he is right. Used the same test scene
The diffrence between a fully updated w10 en w 8.1:
- w8.1 used around 145 ~ 200 MB GPU memory of the first graphics card .
- w10 uses around 300 ~ 450 MB GPU memory of the first grapics card
The much larger GPU 1 memory use under w10 is causing the CPU fallback issue and ignoring the GPU's. The only thing i'm not 100% sure about, if this is since the november update (the larger memory use) ... I think so, because i would have noticed it before, used w10 for a while and did not see this before with "simple" scenes. .
At least you all figured out what's happening. :-)
And anything is possible -- this Nov. update seems to have gone perfectly for some and did strange things to other systems. But all's well that end's well, and in my case, a system health restore was probably a good thing. I think my whole system is running better.
I dread to check my downloads though, so I'll do it later.
...I'm waiting until next August and just going to deal with purchasing an OEM outright for any new build. They better loosen up their policies (at least for the Pro version) regarding telemetry gathering and updating if they expect one to actually pay real cash money for it.
...that should be illegal as it really hits those with download/upload limits.