Andrew or Andy?

valkanvalkan Posts: 33

Today's character Andy, purchased for a dollar, downloads Andrew, bought during the March Sales

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  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 109,729

    Thanks, we will get this checked.

  • vwranglervwrangler Posts: 5,003

    It's the same thing that happened with Andrew and Adrian. Very technically, Andy is there; it's just that all the internal and external file references say "Andrew" instead of "Andy". A lot of batch-search-replace and batch-rename takes care of it.

    The whole shooting stars character rollout has been surprisingly shoddy. They've never once mentioned that the characters are basically shapes-only; they have no materials of their own. As mentioned, Adrian and Andrew collided, although that was easily fixed. Jason was so badly broken that I had to return him. There have been a couple other things mentioned elsewhere in the forum.

    There's just been a surprising lack of quality control on these shapes.

  • valkanvalkan Posts: 33

    Does that mean that the new Andy replaced my Andrew files yesterday?

    I've had an Andy update today called Andy. Do I now have 2 copies of Andy and not Andrew?

    I haven't really checked any of these characters yet. I just thought it would be useful to have a few spare male characters since they were cheap

  • vwrangler said:

    It's the same thing that happened with Andrew and Adrian. Very technically, Andy is there; it's just that all the internal and external file references say "Andrew" instead of "Andy". A lot of batch-search-replace and batch-rename takes care of it.

    The whole shooting stars character rollout has been surprisingly shoddy. They've never once mentioned that the characters are basically shapes-only; they have no materials of their own. As mentioned, Adrian and Andrew collided, although that was easily fixed. Jason was so badly broken that I had to return him. There have been a couple other things mentioned elsewhere in the forum.

    There's just been a surprising lack of quality control on these shapes.

    Technically, we were informed there were no materials, since the What's Included section on each product page only mentions character presets and shaping. However, I agree it should be part of the sales page blurb, since most characters come with their own skins.

    And, alas, quality control is a longstanding problem, probably exacerbated with these characters, since there's so many debuted over about 2 months.

  • jmucchiellojmucchiello Posts: 1,058

    vwrangler said:

    The whole shooting stars character rollout has been surprisingly shoddy. They've never once mentioned that the characters are basically shapes-only; they have no materials of their own. As mentioned, Adrian and Andrew collided, although that was easily fixed. Jason was so badly broken that I had to return him. There have been a couple other things mentioned elsewhere in the forum.

    There's just been a surprising lack of quality control on these shapes.

    An important skill in buying from the store is going to the documentation page and verifying exactly what one is getting whenever a deal seems "too good". Why you need such skill is a different issue. Caveat Emptor.

  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,848
    edited April 19

    I haven't bought any of them yet except 3 or 4 of the toon styles but there is a big selection of not so typical DAZ shapes, it woould be nice if they gathered just these textureless ones up in two or three bundles.

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  • vwranglervwrangler Posts: 5,003
    edited April 19

    valkan said:

    Does that mean that the new Andy replaced my Andrew files yesterday?

    I've had an Andy update today called Andy. Do I now have 2 copies of Andy and not Andrew?

    I haven't really checked any of these characters yet. I just thought it would be useful to have a few spare male characters since they were cheap

    Yes, if you originally installed Andy when he first came out, he replaced your Andrew files. If you installed the Andy update, you now have two copies of Andy. I would suggest you redownload and reinstall Andrew so that he replaces the incorrect copy of Andy. The updated Andy will be left alone.  

    miladyderyni_173d399f47 said:

    Technically, we were informed there were no materials, since the What's Included section on each product page only mentions character presets and shaping. 

    Unfortunately, that's not quite true. If you look at today's entry for Joanne, for example, she has

    • Material Options:
      • Joanne All MAT
      • Joanne Eyes
      • Joanne Skin MAT
      • Joanne Eyelashes
      • Joanne Eyes
    • Daz Studio Iray Material Presets (.DUF)

    The aforementioned Andy has 

    • Material Options:
      • Andy All MAT
      • Andy Eyes
      • Andy Skin MAT
      • Andy Eyelashes
      • Andy Eyes
    • Daz Studio Iray Material Presets (.DUF)

    What isn't made explicit anywhere is that the MAT that's used is for Genesis 9 Base Materials Feminine/Masculine 01. The way it's phrased implies that these characters include materials of their own, and they very much do not. You can kind of figure it out if you notice that the promo pictures have, way down in the corners, wee tiny type that tells you which textures are used for the promos, but even that isn't the same thing as explicitly saying that the characters don't come with textures.

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  • edited April 19

    vwrangler said:

    valkan said:

    Does that mean that the new Andy replaced my Andrew files yesterday?

    I've had an Andy update today called Andy. Do I now have 2 copies of Andy and not Andrew?

    I haven't really checked any of these characters yet. I just thought it would be useful to have a few spare male characters since they were cheap

    Yes, if you originally installed Andy when he first came out, he replaced your Andrew files. If you installed the Andy update, you now have two copies of Andy. I would suggest you redownload and reinstall Andrew so that he replaces the incorrect copy of Andy. The updated Andy will be left alone.  

    miladyderyni_173d399f47 said:

    Technically, we were informed there were no materials, since the What's Included section on each product page only mentions character presets and shaping. 

    Unfortunately, that's not quite true. If you look at today's entry for Joanne, for example, she has

    • Material Options:
      • Joanne All MAT
      • Joanne Eyes
      • Joanne Skin MAT
      • Joanne Eyelashes
      • Joanne Eyes
    • Daz Studio Iray Material Presets (.DUF)

    The aforementioned Andy has 

    • Material Options:
      • Andy All MAT
      • Andy Eyes
      • Andy Skin MAT
      • Andy Eyelashes
      • Andy Eyes
    • Daz Studio Iray Material Presets (.DUF)

    What isn't made explicit anywhere is that the MAT that's used is for Genesis 9 Base Materials Feminine/Masculine 01. The way it's phrased implies that these characters include materials of their own, and they very much do not. You can kind of figure it out if you notice that the promo pictures have, way down in the corners, wee tiny type that tells you which textures are used for the promos, but even that isn't the same thing as explicitly saying that the characters don't come with textures.

    Missed those details. I did ask about Joanne (and the other Doorbusters for today) in the reporting thread before seeing your post. If Joanne and Andy don't have unique skins, then Daz needs to remove the materials listed under What's Included on their product page.

    Joanne makes a good looking fantasy heroine in those promos but nothing I can't do with content I already have, including the outfit. (Well I can, once I get more of my content installed on the new computer.)

    *********

    I ended up skipping the Hair deal yesterday as the G9 items never seemed to discount properly. 

    And passing on today's Outlet deal. I don't care for any POV items, so it would cost me less to buy just every OS I'm interested in. If the deal is for you, I suggest seeing if QG qualifies, since last time Daz had an OS deal, the QG worked as well.

    Off to see if today is the day I use my DO coupon.

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