Question About Ultimate Natural Bend Morphs G9

What's the relationship between these two products?  Does 2.0 replace the original, or supplement it?

Ultimate Natural Bend Morphs for Genesis 9 Female Base

Ultimate Natural Bend Morphs for Genesis 9 Feminine 2.0

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  • ElorElor Posts: 3,673
    edited March 27

    They are independant products and if you don't have any, I would buy UNBM 2.0 directly and skip the first version of UNBM.

    UNBM 2.0 looks a bit better to my untrained eyes, with one caveat: there is a 'UNBM Feminine Breasts' that will change the shape of the breasts of the character, which I dialed down to zero each time because I don't like what it is doing (at least in the base pose, maybe it's doing something else once a character is posed).

    If you're planning to buying one during March Madness, UNBM 2.0 is unlikely to be discounted during it because it was released at the start of January 2025 and most of the time, the cutoff date decided by Daz Studio for items to be part of the sales (either as part of the Mad Artists Stores or the Mad Adjacent Stores) is the end of 2024.

    If at one point you think you may need a similar system for masculine characters, there is Natural Movements Pack for Genesis 9 by Mechasar which is working on both Masculine and Feminine characters while UNBM was made mainly for feminine characters (UNBM 2.0 can be dialed on masculine characters but I got NMP first so I'm using it instead).

    NMP working as UNBM: you activate it and morphs will be applied automatically depending on your character's pose, and if you feel some morphs are too strong, you can adjust them manually.

    NMP also has a couple of morphs you'll have to activate manually (like one to use when a character is sitting on a hard surface).

    Here a (limited) comparison using Victoria 9, from left to right (I looked for a pose that resulted in a lot of joints bent on the legs and  the arms while allowing to have 4 characters side by side):

    • Victoria 9 without any third party product used (I dialed Victoria 9, Body Pose Detail Strength and Flexion Automatic Strength to 100%, which means her own corrective morphs are used alongside the ones made by Daz for Genesis 9 Base), wearing a blue swimsuit
    • Victoria 9 using Natural Movement Pack (I clicked to On to activate all morphs and that's it), wearing a red with a black strip swimsuit.
    • Victoria 9 using UNBM (I dialed UNBM for Genesis 9 to 100%), wearing a yellow swimsuit.
    • Victoria 9 using UNBM 2.0 (I dialed UNBM 2.0 for Genesis 9 to 100% and dialed UNBM Feminine Breasts back to 0, sorry, it's muscle memory at this point blush), wearing a red with a white strip swimsuit.

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  • MrRogerSmithMrRogerSmith Posts: 162

    Elor said:

    They are independant products and if you don't have any, I would buy UNBM 2.0 directly and skip the first version of UNBM.

    UNBM 2.0 looks a bit better to my untrained eyes, with one caveat: there is a 'UNBM Feminine Breasts' that will change the shape of the breasts of the character, which I dialed down to zero each time because I don't like what it is doing (at least in the base pose, maybe it's doing something else once a character is posed).

    If you're planning to buying one during March Madness, UNBM 2.0 is unlikely to be discounted during it because it was released at the start of January 2025 and most of the time, the cutoff date decided by Daz Studio for items to be part of the sales (either as part of the Mad Artists Stores or the Mad Adjacent Stores) is the end of 2024.

    If at one point you think you may need a similar system for masculine characters, there is Natural Movements Pack for Genesis 9 by Mechasar which is working on both Masculine and Feminine characters while UNBM was made mainly for feminine characters (UNBM 2.0 can be dialed on masculine characters but I got NMP first so I'm using it instead).

    NMP working as UNBM: you activate it and morphs will be applied automatically depending on your character's pose, and if you feel some morphs are too strong, you can adjust them manually.

    NMP also has a couple of morphs you'll have to activate manually (like one to use when a character is sitting on a hard surface).

    Here a (limited) comparison using Victoria 9, from left to right (I looked for a pose that resulted in a lot of joints bent on the legs and  the arms while allowing to have 4 characters side by side):

    • Victoria 9 without any third party product used (I dialed Victoria 9, Body Pose Detail Strength and Flexion Automatic Strength to 100%, which means her own corrective morphs are used alongside the ones made by Daz for Genesis 9 Base), wearing a blue swimsuit
    • Victoria 9 using Natural Movement Pack (I clicked to On to activate all morphs and that's it), wearing a red with a black strip swimsuit.
    • Victoria 9 using UNBM (I dialed UNBM for Genesis 9 to 100%), wearing a yellow swimsuit.
    • Victoria 9 using UNBM 2.0 (I dialed UNBM 2.0 for Genesis 9 to 100% and dialed UNBM Feminine Breasts back to 0, sorry, it's muscle memory at this point blush), wearing a red with a white strip swimsuit.

    That's really helpful, thanks very much for the detailed response! 

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