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My Discovery - of interest to Filament / Cartoon shaders

Drogo NazhurDrogo Nazhur Posts: 1,290
edited March 9 in The Commons

As I'm sure most already know, Genesis 9 introduced us to a new Filament shader option which gives a cartoon'ish look to the renders and is an improvement over the existing "Cartoon" render option. I've been using this a lot for objects in the background of my scenes -- magazine covers, a television screen, etc. I'm also going to be doing some illustrated stories of a story within a story.

But I'm sure nobody cares about any of that. However, what you might be interested in is something that I did by accident. I overlayed an IRAY render with the old cartoon render and I really like how it came out. I like it even better that the new Filament render.

I just wanted to share my discovery in case others also like it and want to have the same "look" to their cartoon renders.

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  • MimicMollyMimicMolly Posts: 2,339
    edited March 9

    For Filament, I like the Filatoon outline on top of the figure, except not black, with the Iray mats underneath. To me, the Filament renders really need the outline, so they wouldn't look as washed out. Then, I also throw in the Genesis 9 Tear, and dye that sort of dark pink to match the skin. Rotation of the dome also affects the lighting, so I play around with that. This example is of the anime/toon figure, except I dialed it out and replaced the shape with a realistic one, like Maya for Genesis 9. 

    I don't like the Cartoon Shaded much. But if I do use it, I always make the scleras invisible so they won't have the "white eyes."

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  • Drogo NazhurDrogo Nazhur Posts: 1,290

    MimicMolly said:

     I always make the scleras invisible so they won't have the "white eyes."

    Thank you for the recommedation. 

  • 3Diva3Diva Posts: 12,014
    edited March 10

    That's a cool discovery!

    Have you tried the Filatoon shaders that come with Daz Studio? They can give very cool NPR looks without the extra work of rendering two different images and then layering them in an image editor. :)

     

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  • wsterdanwsterdan Posts: 3,156

    3Diva is too modest to recommend her own product, but if you're enjoying tinkering with Filatoon you owe it to yourself to take a look at:

    https://www.daz3d.com/easy-filatoon

    It allows you to test dozens dozens of different Filatoon settings for materials, lights, environments, outlines and more. It's amazing how many tests you can do so incredibly rapidly. I highly recommend it.

  • takezo_3001takezo_3001 Posts: 2,037

    wsterdan said:

    3Diva is too modest to recommend her own product, but if you're enjoying tinkering with Filatoon you owe it to yourself to take a look at:

    https://www.daz3d.com/easy-filatoon

    It allows you to test dozens dozens of different Filatoon settings for materials, lights, environments, outlines and more. It's amazing how many tests you can do so incredibly rapidly. I highly recommend it.

    Seconded, definitely seconded, it is indeed an excellent tool, and the cherry on top, is that it works flawlessly with the 2026 beta! 

  • vrba79vrba79 Posts: 1,515
    Filatoon is almost as versatile as the old PwToon shader for 3DL was, but it inherits all of the limitations that are native to Filament itself. After using Filatoon for about a year and a half I ended up migrating back to using Sketchy Toon for Iray.
  • jmucchiellojmucchiello Posts: 859

    My issue with Filatoon is the lack of recent support both by PAs (forgivable since no one is clamouring for the stuff) and Daz Originals. Every time I see a new DO bundle... no filatoon option. Maybe a cool environment drops? No filatoon option. Clothing? Nope. Pose pack? No.

  • vrba79vrba79 Posts: 1,515

    I think the "WOW" factor has worn of for most of the PAs. I would have loved to seen at least a LIE preset that added Borderlands or Telltale Games style ink marks to the characters, but thems the breaks.

  • Drogo NazhurDrogo Nazhur Posts: 1,290

    vrba79 said:

    Filatoon is almost as versatile as the old PwToon shader for 3DL was, but it inherits all of the limitations that are native to Filament itself. After using Filatoon for about a year and a half I ended up migrating back to using Sketchy Toon for Iray.

    What is this "Sketchy Toon" of which you speak? 

  • Drogo NazhurDrogo Nazhur Posts: 1,290

    wsterdan said:

    3Diva is too modest to recommend her own product, but if you're enjoying tinkering with Filatoon you owe it to yourself to take a look at:

    https://www.daz3d.com/easy-filatoon

    It allows you to test dozens dozens of different Filatoon settings for materials, lights, environments, outlines and more. It's amazing how many tests you can do so incredibly rapidly. I highly recommend it.

    This looks VERY impressive. How simple or complicated is it to use? Will it work on earlier Genesis's? 

  • vrba79vrba79 Posts: 1,515
    It's super easy to use and there are universal presets you can apply to any figure. In fact older Genesis figures look pretty great all Filatooned up!
  • vrba79vrba79 Posts: 1,515
    Drogo Nazhur said:

    vrba79 said:

    Filatoon is almost as versatile as the old PwToon shader for 3DL was, but it inherits all of the limitations that are native to Filament itself. After using Filatoon for about a year and a half I ended up migrating back to using Sketchy Toon for Iray.

    What is this "Sketchy Toon" of which you speak? 

    Sketchy Toon for Iray. But of a learning curve, but it can produce nice results. https://www.daz3d.com/sketchy-toon-edge-and-art-style-shaders-for-iray
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