Daz Content Burn?

Mark C HollowayMark C Holloway Posts: 141
edited November 2015 in The Commons

Hello my Artistic Friends,

Question, Does Daz still offer to Burn your entire purchased content onto discs?

I once had this done a very long time ago and they actually messed up a little because I ended up with a blank disc with the Daz Logo on the disc. I still have that disc to this day. I was wondering if Daz still does this and if they do, Where is the option to purchase this in the store? I dont have a clue where to look. Thank you for your time.  :)

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  • fixmypcmikefixmypcmike Posts: 19,685

    They don't offer this any more -- they stopped several years ago as the size became unmanageable.

  • DarkSpartanDarkSpartan Posts: 1,096

    That was a thing that went away awhile ago. No idea exactly when, however.

    If we beg hard enough, they might offer it again. In the meantime, DIM can redownload everything for you if you want.

  • TheKDTheKD Posts: 2,711

    You know what would be a cool like that? A thumb drive with your purchases lol, the memory capacity of some of them are insane for their size.

  • FSMCDesignsFSMCDesigns Posts: 12,843

    That's why I save all my zips to a backup HD, so I can access them whenever without eating bandwidth or waiting to d/l. I even have my complete runtimes saved just in case.

  • TheKDTheKD Posts: 2,711

    Yeah, I do the same. I have an online backup as well, just in case. I need to get a bigger hard drive though, 1TB is no longer cutting it.

  • Ken OBanionKen OBanion Posts: 1,455
    TheKD said:

    You know what would be a cool like that? A thumb drive with your purchases lol, the memory capacity of some of them are insane for their size.

    You know that's right!  I keep a 64GB thumb-drive in my pocket.  And I use it damn near every day.

    When I bought my latest computer (an Asus, if you must know), I got a notice every time I woke it up (I never shut down, I always put it to sleep; seems more humane, for some incomprehensible reason), "We have provided you with 5GB of cloud storage...."

    In the immortal words of Shania Twain, "That don't impress me much...!"

     

  • Oso3DOso3D Posts: 15,085

    My first computer had 64 Megs of memory.

    That's disk space. And it had to be partitioned into two drives because memory addressing couldn't handle all that space.

    Hahahaha. When I remember the years of trying to back up my stuff, floppies, 3 1/4" disks, Zip drives, and all the rest? Cloud storage and $10 for a 8 gig thumb drive just make me continually amazed. Thumb drives that look like sushi, even!

     

  • McGyverMcGyver Posts: 7,085

    I suppose if you loaded your content onto a thumb drive you could burn it... I wonder how flammable content is... Actually, I wonder if it's against the EULA To set fire to your purchases?... Ah, probably not unless you redistribute the ashes... But what if someone inhales the smoke?... The perplexing nuisances of the legal aspects of incinerating your library are quite intriguing, but despite that, hardly anyone seems to want to handle physical copies anymore... CDs and DVDs are like ancient stone tablets in some people's eyes... I was amazed when recently I think it was Filter Forge that I saw offering their complete filter collection on a thumb drive... But the individual filters are very small files mostly, so it probably would not have to be a very large capacity drive... I'd imagine a big collection of DAZ content would be costly to transfer, there would have to be some mark up on the drive, you'd have to pay someone to handle the physical aspects of it, you'd need different size drives you would have to keep in stock... It probably wouldn't be worth it for most customers or DAZ... And forget about DVDs... It could be several discs per customer, and you'd have to check them to make sure they weren't messed up or blanks... The world is a far more complicated place these days.

  • hacsarthacsart Posts: 2,034
    edited November 2015

    Heh - the first compiuter I was exposed to and allowed to operate had, wait for it .... 16K of core storage (aka memory) - an IBM 1401 mainframe. Later on, I "graduated" to an IBM 360/40 with 128K of core..... my first PC had 521K of memory and 10MB storage...

    My first computer had 64 Megs of memory.

    That's disk space. And it had to be partitioned into two drives because memory addressing couldn't handle all that space.

    Hahahaha. When I remember the years of trying to back up my stuff, floppies, 3 1/4" disks, Zip drives, and all the rest? Cloud storage and $10 for a 8 gig thumb drive just make me continually amazed. Thumb drives that look like sushi, even!

     

     

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  • TaozTaoz Posts: 10,254
    edited November 2015
    McGyver said:

    And forget about DVDs... It could be several discs per customer, and you'd have to check them to make sure they weren't messed up or blanks... The world is a far more complicated place these days.

    You can get 100 GB BluRay discs now, but per GB they're still expensive (about $10 per disc) and optical disks are not the most reliable media. A 500 GB 2½" HDD costs less than $50 these days, IMO a better and more reliable option than a flash drive and big enough to contain even hard core users' content. In comparison a 512 GB flash drive of good quality costs over $300.

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  • Oso3DOso3D Posts: 15,085

    Hacsart: Well, first computer I owned outright. I have happy memories as a kid using the Commodore 64 with my dad and brother; we'd get Commodore magazine, and there'd be included programs. I'd read out the code while my dad would type them in. Cassette tape drives, Koala tablets, all sorts of wackiness.

    I still maintain that the games for C64 were some of the most creative and intriguing game design ever, even if the graphics don't hold up.

     

  • IceCrMnIceCrMn Posts: 2,319

    "Zork" !!!

    "you have been eaten by a grue"

     

    I'm sure I'm not the only one to have taken days off work to stay home and play civilization. I called them "civ days" :)

     

    Hacsart: Well, first computer I owned outright. I have happy memories as a kid using the Commodore 64 with my dad and brother; we'd get Commodore magazine, and there'd be included programs. I'd read out the code while my dad would type them in. Cassette tape drives, Koala tablets, all sorts of wackiness.

    I still maintain that the games for C64 were some of the most creative and intriguing game design ever, even if the graphics don't hold up.

     

     

  • Mark C HollowayMark C Holloway Posts: 141
    edited November 2015

    It is fun to see that this post took on a life of it's own, LOL. Oh Well, I do have all (Installed) Content Backed up to another Hard Drive but it is Massive. Over 130 gigs of content. Been at this a long time now. Owned Bryce 5 before Daz Purchased it from Corel and I still have the Disc, Box and all. It was my very first Graphic Software. Then Came Poser Artist, Think that was version 4. Still have that too somewhere. Classic software, What to do with it. Oh well.cool

     

     

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  • CypherFOXCypherFOX Posts: 3,401
    edited November 2015

    Greetings,

    Yeah, I was using 50GB Bluray disks for a while, then gave up.  I don't bother backing up my ZIP files right now, since my whole DAZ library is backed up on Dropbox.

    Now I also have a 6TB network attached storage box that sits in a corner and receives copies of stuff, if I feel the need.  One of the 2TB drives died, I swapped it out for $89 at the store (online would have been cheaper) and after a day of syncing up, it was fully operational, and no data lost.

    Yeah...I started this career saving stuff on audio tapes (on a computer with 1K of RAM!) usually making two copies because it was really easy for them to get corrupted.  I thought 120K floppies were huge, and it was really cool to be able to cut an extra hole in them and 'flip' them to be able to store more data.  I also remember the tipping point of 170MB hard drives being cheaper than $1/MB.  That was a big thing with my friends.  I also remember having a  5¼" 1GB SCSI hard drive, which was larger than a physical brick, in all dimensions.

    Now I have TB to spare, in a very small box in the corner...and you can get a 1TB thumb drive for under $800, which will only come down in price over time.

    -- Morgan

    Edit: And Zork (Dungeon) was awesome; I wrote lots of text adventures back in the day!

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  • McGyverMcGyver Posts: 7,085

    Somewhere a while ago I came across site that had modern ports of all the old text adventures, it was a convoluted find through an arcade game emulator site, unfortunately I never made note of it and too much time passed... Zork was definitely there, as well as a couple of other really popular ones.

  • Oso3DOso3D Posts: 15,085

    I'm repeating myself, but Dropbox (and similar) is an answer to my prayers. SO much sh* lost over the years from failing to properly backup. My first PC had years of BBS chatter and other documents on it stolen in the mid-late 90s. It wasn't even that valuable at the time, but the loss of documents of personal significance was horrible to me.

    Now? I almost don't have to do ANYTHING and everything is safe against anything but a civilization ending event...

    (I DO have to copy over my Daz files every once in a while, because I can't figure out how to reliably get Dropbox to back up those folders by itself, but oh well)

     

  • McGyverMcGyver Posts: 7,085

    Sorry to interrupt, but I remembered this now and I know if I don't mention it here, it will be gone from my brain... A while ago BBC posted an online version of the old Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy text game... I just looked to see if it is still there and surprisingly it is... 

    http://play.bbc.co.uk/play/pen/g38lb8zppy 

    I didn't test it, but surprisingly it shows up on my iPad... Back when they originally posted it, it worked... Sorta well... ish... 

    That is all.

  • Oso3DOso3D Posts: 15,085

    Happy childhood memories of my dad, brother, and I trying to figure out how to get that Babelfish in our ear. ;)

     

  • I had a big disappointment a while ago when CDs sent to me by CBC here in Canada became corrupted due to age. They were documentaries. I have since learned that regular CD, DVD, and BD discs are terrible for a long term storage of data. This happened to a university library here also. The library transferred everything to M-disc, I believe it is called, because they are supposed to have a life of close to 100 years. The M-discs are more expensive, and can only be burned on an M-drive, but they can be played back on regular (non M-drive) drives.

    Hope this helps. 

  • hphoenixhphoenix Posts: 1,335
    hacsart said:

    Heh - the first compiuter I was exposed to and allowed to operate had, wait for it .... 16K of core storage (aka memory) - an IBM 1401 mainframe. Later on, I "graduated" to an IBM 360/40 with 128K of core..... my first PC had 521K of memory and 10MB storage...

    My first computer had 64 Megs of memory.

    That's disk space. And it had to be partitioned into two drives because memory addressing couldn't handle all that space.

    Hahahaha. When I remember the years of trying to back up my stuff, floppies, 3 1/4" disks, Zip drives, and all the rest? Cloud storage and $10 for a 8 gig thumb drive just make me continually amazed. Thumb drives that look like sushi, even!

     

     

    First computer to use:  TRS80 Model II.  The store employees kept wondering how new games they'd never seen kept showing up on it and weren't on the 8" floppy disks.  That was me typing in programs while they weren't looking.  It had 32KB of RAM, and the 8" Floppy disks held 500KB of storage, and the Z80A CPU ran at 4MHz!

    First REAL computer to own:  Apple ][GS signed Woz Platinum Edition.  65C816 CPU at 2.8MHz, 800KB 3.5" and 144KB 5.25" Floppy drives, and 256KB of RAM.

    First computer I built for myself:  486-DX50 with 2MB RAM and a VESA Local bus truecolor graphics at XGA running Windows 3.11.

    Ah, memories.....

     

  • namffuaknamffuak Posts: 4,406

    Hello my Artistic Friends,

    Question, Does Daz still offer to Burn your entire purchased content onto discs?

    I once had this done a very long time ago and they actually messed up a little because I ended up with a blank disc with the Daz Logo on the disc. I still have that disc to this day. I was wondering if Daz still does this and if they do, Where is the option to purchase this in the store? I dont have a clue where to look. Thank you for your time.  :)

    They gave it up a long time ago - just not practical any more. FWIW, I gave up burning optical backups close to two years ago - I was up to 50 DVDs, all at capacity (and two copies each - they're not as reliable as people think). Now I use a smart copy utility to copy the DIM files to alternating 2 TB USB drives once a week.

  • Mark C HollowayMark C Holloway Posts: 141
    edited November 2015

    I had a big disappointment a while ago when CDs sent to me by CBC here in Canada became corrupted due to age. They were documentaries. I have since learned that regular CD, DVD, and BD discs are terrible for a long term storage of data. This happened to a university library here also. The library transferred everything to M-disc, I believe it is called, because they are supposed to have a life of close to 100 years. The M-discs are more expensive, and can only be burned on an M-drive, but they can be played back on regular (non M-drive) drives.

    Hope this helps. 

    This is helpful, My laptop is able to burn M-disc but I have never burned one. Like Bluray's I thought you had to have a M-disc drive to read it. Your info helps me solve the backup problem big time. Thank You  winkcoolsmiley

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  • StratDragonStratDragon Posts: 3,273

    "Babblefish" "Grue", and "my first computer had <256k and came with a bat living in inside of it!" are now all registered trademarks of the Activision Corporation.

    https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/lost-treasures-of-infocom/id577626745?mt=8boxes

     

    gallery

    http://infocom.elsewhere.org/gallery/greybox.html

    and some game history

    http://www.infocom-if.org

  • Hacsart: Well, first computer I owned outright. I have happy memories as a kid using the Commodore 64 with my dad and brother; we'd get Commodore magazine, and there'd be included programs. I'd read out the code while my dad would type them in. Cassette tape drives, Koala tablets, all sorts of wackiness.

    I still maintain that the games for C64 were some of the most creative and intriguing game design ever, even if the graphics don't hold up.

     

    Thank you.  You probably have typed in a couple of my programs from back then.  :-)  That was a fun time!

    Commodore Developer Number CT02005

    Kendall

  • Mark C HollowayMark C Holloway Posts: 141
    edited November 2015
    namffuak said:

    Hello my Artistic Friends,

    Question, Does Daz still offer to Burn your entire purchased content onto discs?

    I once had this done a very long time ago and they actually messed up a little because I ended up with a blank disc with the Daz Logo on the disc. I still have that disc to this day. I was wondering if Daz still does this and if they do, Where is the option to purchase this in the store? I dont have a clue where to look. Thank you for your time.  :)

    They gave it up a long time ago - just not practical any more. FWIW, I gave up burning optical backups close to two years ago - I was up to 50 DVDs, all at capacity (and two copies each - they're not as reliable as people think). Now I use a smart copy utility to copy the DIM files to alternating 2 TB USB drives once a week.

    Bendinggrass suggested burning onto M-disc which I am able to do. It might be a cheaper way to go. I do not know yet. Right now I am doing what you are doing. cool Thanks

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  • CybersoxCybersox Posts: 9,271

    My first computer had 64 Megs of memory.

    My first personal computer had 5K RAM and 20K ROM, the legendary Vic 20.  I expanded the RAM to a Beefy 24K, then replaced the whole computer after six months with the MUCH more powerful Commodore 64.  Man, 64K ROM and  20K ROM.  I even had a graphics tablet for it.   

    Then again,the first computer I ever operated professionally was before all that, a 24KiB IBM 360-20.  And that was running mission support at NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center.  Now I have more power on my Kindle Fire than we had on the entire floor.  :P 

  • Oso3DOso3D Posts: 15,085

    I was on a flight with a woman who worked on Apollo... 11, I think? I think she worked on an air processing unit. Yeah, she was commenting about how amazingly small the computing was on the craft. Heh.

    (My wife always rolls her eyes at my penchant for striking up conversations on airplanes and other places, but met some amazing people that way)

     

  • TaozTaoz Posts: 10,254

    I had a big disappointment a while ago when CDs sent to me by CBC here in Canada became corrupted due to age. They were documentaries. I have since learned that regular CD, DVD, and BD discs are terrible for a long term storage of data.

    In general I agree, but some brands of discs are actually pretty reliable. The problem is that you can't know for sure which ones. I recently transfered the content of a number of old DVDs to HDD, they were burned at the same time (10+ years ago) but with one brand all the disk were unreadable while all discs from another brand were in perfect condition. So it's a bit like playing russian roulette. For the same reason I always make 3 copies of the data on 3 different brands of disc, then there is a good chance that at least one of them will be OK after a number of years. Burning at a low speed rather than maximum speed generally also increases the quality of the burn, and it also makes the laser in the drive last longer.

  • Depending on the UV exposure and storage conditions (humidity, orientation, atmospheric composition), CD and DVD-R discs can develop bad spots in <24 Months.  If exposed to direct UV, errors can develop in <2 hours.  Never trust data written to optical media beyond 24 Months.  If it is critical, make sure to transfer it to new media before then.

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