How Do I Fix The Discrepancy Between G8 Skin and G8.1 Skin

Fauvist · January 27

How Do I Fix The Discrepancy Between G8 Skin and G8.1 Skin? I recently started using Daz Studio 4.24 (on a Mac) so I could use characters with skin from 8.1 characters.

I'm using the exact same lights and light and render settings that I used in the old version of DAZ Studio. Lights and settings I've used on hundreds of renders.

When I use them in Studio 4.24, inevitably the characters with the 8.1 skins are so light they're almost completely white.

Why is this happening? And what do I do to fix it so they look like normal skins - like the skin the promo pictures for the characters.

I attached a screenshot of Genesis 8 & 8.1 charaters to show you what's happening. Andre 8 is a pretty light skin, and Thomas 8.1 (from the look of the promo images) is a pretty dark skin. The Genesis 8 characters render almost exactly the way they render in the old version of Studio I was using, and the Genesis 8.1 skins, although I can see that there is a skin texture there, the skin is way way too light.

NOTE: to see all the characters in the line up, you have to click on the attached file.

Richard Haseltine · January 27

They default to different shaders - Geness 8.1 often uses the PBR Skn shader, which was new wth 8.1 and so not used on Genesis 8 characters (certainly not the Daz own-brand characters). How are you lighting the scene?

Fauvist · January 28

I'm lighting the scene with a product called "Paper Tiger's Precision HDRI Lighting".

There are no lights listed in the Scene tab, so I assume the only lighting is from an HDRI. The headlights on the camera are definitely off. I'm using the lighting product's default settings for tone mapping etc.

I've used this specific light in this set for 6 years on hundreds of renders. I haven't changed anything about the lighting.

When I open the scene, I don't get a MISSING FILES message.

I added Julian 9 to the scene and his skin renders as almost totally white, too. He's the white character in the center.

The Genesis 8 character's skin render as normal - the same as they render in the old version of Studio. The background renders as a medium grey, as it always has.

The render engine is NVIDIA (MDL). I never noticed the MDL before. I don't know what the MDL stands for.

So there's something I'm not doing to get the G8.1 and G9 character skins to render correctly.

GhostofMacbeth · January 28

I think you are missing part of the shader. Mine don't render like that at all.

Fauvist · January 28

I compared the surfaces tabs for specifically the SKIN. The surfaces tab for all the Genesis 8 characters has a 5 in brackets, like this (5); and the surfaces tab for all the Genesis 8.1 characters has a 7 in brackets. I'll attach the 2 tabs. What does the 5 and 7 signify? 5 and 7 what?

Fauvist · January 28

On the Render Tab I clicked the "default" setting. I changed the lighting product to a beach scene I've used dozens of times. The beach and the Genesis 8 characters rendered perfectly, just like they did in the old version of Studio. The Genesis 8.1 and Genesis 9 characters again render very very light

FJM1977 · January 28

Fauvist said:

I compared the surfaces tabs for specifically the SKIN. The surfaces tab for all the Genesis 8 characters has a 5 in brackets, like this (5); and the surfaces tab for all the Genesis 8.1 characters has a 7 in brackets. I'll attach the 2 tabs. What does the 5 and 7 signify? 5 and 7 what?

The size of the group of surfaces you have selected.

Fauvist · January 28

FJM1977 said:

Fauvist said:

I compared the surfaces tabs for specifically the SKIN. The surfaces tab for all the Genesis 8 characters has a 5 in brackets, like this (5); and the surfaces tab for all the Genesis 8.1 characters has a 7 in brackets. I'll attach the 2 tabs. What does the 5 and 7 signify? 5 and 7 what?

The size of the group of surfaces you have selected.

Thanks. I guess that's not the problem then.

GhostofMacbeth · January 28

These are some of the ones I have just in the basic DS lighting. They are not as blown out as what you are seeing. I don't have your lights that you used but you might test to see what they look like in the base set.

Fauvist · January 28

GhostofMacbeth said:

These are some of the ones I have just in the basic DS lighting. They are not as blown out as what you are seeing. I don't have your lights that you used but you might test to see what they look like in the base set.

Where do you find Basic DS lightin in your content? I didn't know there was a base set of lights.

Thanks!

nemesis10 · January 28

Fauvist said:

GhostofMacbeth said:

These are some of the ones I have just in the basic DS lighting. They are not as blown out as what you are seeing. I don't have your lights that you used but you might test to see what they look like in the base set.

Where do you find Basic DS lightin in your content? I didn't know there was a base set of lights.

Thanks!

If you create a scene, there is a default HDRI that loads which is the basic light. My own guess is that you have loaded enough characters that you have run out of graphics memory so one of them is glitching. Try deleting one figure and see if it renders the same.

GhostofMacbeth · January 28

Yeah, just I loaded the characters and rendered and then changed the dome roation to sort of match yours.

Fauvist · January 28

nemesis10 said:

Fauvist said:

GhostofMacbeth said:

These are some of the ones I have just in the basic DS lighting. They are not as blown out as what you are seeing. I don't have your lights that you used but you might test to see what they look like in the base set.

Where do you find Basic DS lightin in your content? I didn't know there was a base set of lights.

Thanks!

If you create a scene, there is a default HDRI that loads which is the basic light. My own guess is that you have loaded enough characters that you have run out of graphics memory so one of them is glitching. Try deleting one figure and see if it renders the same.

Ok, I'm trying it. First I opened a NEW scene. Second I loaded Torment 8,1, and he load with no textures at all. Then I loaded Julius 9 and he also had no texture at all. Then I put bathing suits on them. I didn't add or touch the lighting. I didn't touch the render settings. And I hit render. And it's worse than all the previous renders.

Fauvist · January 28

So I went into the content tab and applied Julian 9 and Torment 8.1 skin textures and hit render.

So I can see there are skin textures on both of them. They both look awful. Torment is still no more visible than he was in the previous renters. Julian has sort of skin coloured skin, but it looks about 1% as good as any Genesis 8 Character.

I don't know why the background is black this time bedcause I literally didn't touch any other settings.

Fauvist · January 28

I spent 11 hours today trying to get these 8.1 and 9 characters to render properly.

Fauvist · January 28

It must be the version of Studio I'm using. In the next day or two I'll get rid of it and download a fresh Studio and try again.

vwrangler · January 28

Fauvist said:

I compared the surfaces tabs for specifically the SKIN. The surfaces tab for all the Genesis 8 characters has a 5 in brackets, like this (5); and the surfaces tab for all the Genesis 8.1 characters has a 7 in brackets. I'll attach the 2 tabs. What does the 5 and 7 signify? 5 and 7 what?

The 5 and 7 just mean that you have "Consolidate Properties" checked.

More importantly, it looks like you've somehow got 3Delight shaders on your 8.1 characters. The image for your G8.1 characters shows "Daz Studio Default" as the shader, and that's a 3Delight shader, not an Iray shader. The G8.1 shader normally says "PBRSkin".

I think you may need to redownload the Default Studio Resources; the only reason that it would be throwing 3Delight shaders on an 8.1 character -- that I can think of, anyway -- is because the PBRSkin shaders aren't present and so Studio doesn't know what the texture shader is telling it and it has to default to 3Delight.

Given the lighting issues you've also mentioned, uninstalling and reinstalling Studio and its resources may be the best way to go, as you've mentioned. Note that installing the most recent version of Studio will remove 3Delight from your system completely.

Fauvist · January 28

vwrangler said:

Fauvist said:

I compared the surfaces tabs for specifically the SKIN. The surfaces tab for all the Genesis 8 characters has a 5 in brackets, like this (5); and the surfaces tab for all the Genesis 8.1 characters has a 7 in brackets. I'll attach the 2 tabs. What does the 5 and 7 signify? 5 and 7 what?

The 5 and 7 just mean that you have "Consolidate Properties" checked.

More importantly, it looks like you've somehow got 3Delight shaders on your 8.1 characters. The image for your G8.1 characters shows "Daz Studio Default" as the shader, and that's a 3Delight shader, not an Iray shader. The G8.1 shader normally says "PBRSkin".

I think you may need to redownload the Default Studio Resources; the only reason that it would be throwing 3Delight shaders on an 8.1 character -- that I can think of, anyway -- is because the PBRSkin shaders aren't present and so Studio doesn't know what the texture shader is telling it and it has to default to 3Delight.

Given the lighting issues you've also mentioned, uninstalling and reinstalling Studio and its resources may be the best way to go, as you've mentioned. Note that installing the most recent version of Studio will remove 3Delight from your system completely.

First, I updated DIM to the newest version, then I uninstalled the character Torment 8.1, and then using DIM downloaded it again, and installed it. Then I uninstalled the Genesis 9 Starter Essentials, and then downloaded and reinstalled them. I can't find any 8.1 Starter Essentials - are there such files? Where are they? How do I download them?

I loaded Torment 8.1 and went to the folder in my Content window and opened the Torment 8.1 Materials folder and manually clicked on the materials to apply them to the figure. Then I rendered it. It's still slmost completely white.

In the Torment 8.1 files there are no materials other than the Iray materials. So that's what I clicked to load. Are there other materials files that are missing?

The Surfaces tab for the Torment 8.1 figure show that it still says: Shader: DAZ Studio Default (RSL). Are there indeed files or something named PBRSkin ? Somewhere? How do I find them? How do I install them?

Thanks!

Leana · January 28

G8.1 is included in G8 starter essentials.

PBRSkin shader (and the various other DS base shaders) is in "Daz Studio default resources" pack.

Fauvist · January 28

Leana said:

G8.1 is included in G8 starter essentials.

PBRSkin shader (and the various other DS base shaders) is in "Daz Studio default resources" pack.

If the Daz Studio Default Resources pack is on a different hard drive than the G8.1 character and skin textures - would that cause my problem? Is DAZ Studio smart enough to pull the default resources from one hard drive and the skin textures from a 2nd external hard drive?

Elor · January 28

Genesis 8.1 is part of Genesis 8 Starter Essentials.

Your problem is likely not related to Torment 8.1 or Genesis 9 Starter Essentials or any of the other figures using PBRSking you tried to load, but likely related to missing the PBR Skin shader itself which is, AFAIK, included in Daz Studio default ressources. Using PBRSkin will likely require a version of Daz Studio at least released around the time Genesis 8.1 was released:

https://www.daz3d.com/downloader/customer/files#prod_13176

Regarding the absence of missing files errors, plenty of warning and errors are silently logged by Daz Studio and are only visible by opening Daz Studio log file. You can open it by going to Help > Troubleshooting > View Log File…

Fauvist · January 28

Elor said:

Genesis 8.1 is part of Genesis 8 Starter Essentials.

Your problem is likely not related to Torment 8.1 or Genesis 9 Starter Essentials or any of the other figures using PBRSking you tried to load, but likely related to missing the PBR Skin shader itself which is, AFAIK, included in Daz Studio default ressources. Using PBRSkin will likely require a version of Daz Studio at least released around the time Genesis 8.1 was released:

https://www.daz3d.com/downloader/customer/files#prod_13176

Regarding the absence of missing files errors, plenty of warning and errors are silently logged by Daz Studio and are only visible by opening Daz Studio log file. You can open it by going to Help > Troubleshooting > View Log File…

I'm usiing DAZ Studio 424.0.3 (64 bit). Is that version supossed to work with PBR skin?

The Log File is overwhelming. What am I looking for? How do I know if there is an error or missing file?

Fauvist · January 28

Correction, I'm using 4.24.0.3 (64 bit)

Fauvist · January 28

This is the file log for the 8.1 charcter:

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Fauvist · January 28

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2026-01-28 12:30:05.342 Iray [INFO] - IRAY:RENDER :: 1.48 IRAY rend progr: CPU: Processing scene...
2026-01-28 12:30:05.342 Iray (Scene Access) : Retrieving geometry
2026-01-28 12:30:05.342 Iray [INFO] - IRAY:RENDER :: 1.25 IRAY rend info : Initializing Embree
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2026-01-28 12:30:20.476 Iray [INFO] - IRAY:RENDER :: 1.25 IRAY rend info : Initializing light hierarchy.
2026-01-28 12:30:20.477 Iray [INFO] - IRAY:RENDER :: 1.25 IRAY rend info : Light hierarchy initialization took 97.990 us
2026-01-28 12:30:20.477 Iray (Scene Access) : Retrieving materials
2026-01-28 12:30:20.481 Iray (Scene Access) : Compiling custom code
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2026-01-28 12:30:20.485 Iray (Scene Access) : Retrieving motion transform data
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2026-01-28 12:30:20.486 Iray [INFO] - IRAY:RENDER :: 1.48 IRAY rend info : CPU: Scene processed in 15.143s
2026-01-28 12:30:20.488 Iray [INFO] - IRAY:RENDER :: 1.48 IRAY rend info : CPU: Allocated 13.486 MiB for frame buffer
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2026-01-28 12:30:20.753 Iray [INFO] - IRAY:RENDER :: 1.0 IRAY rend info : Received update to 00001 iteration after 15.411 s.
2026-01-28 12:30:20.774 Iray (Scene Traversal) : Initializing update
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2026-01-28 12:30:26.466 Iray [INFO] - IRAY:RENDER :: 1.0 IRAY rend progr: 6.70% of image converged
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2026-01-28 12:30:26.500 Iray (Scene Traversal) : Initializing update
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2026-01-28 12:30:33.013 Iray (Scene Traversal) : Initializing update
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2026-01-28 12:30:34.923 Iray [INFO] - IRAY:RENDER :: 1.0 IRAY rend info : Received update to 00078 iterations after 29.581 s.
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2026-01-28 12:30:52.007 Iray (Scene Traversal) : Initializing update
2026-01-28 12:30:52.007 Iray (Scene Traversal) : Retrieving journal and checking for changes
2026-01-28 12:30:54.223 Iray [INFO] - IRAY:RENDER :: 1.0 IRAY rend info : Received update to 00162 iterations after 48.882 s.
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2026-01-28 12:30:59.623 Iray [INFO] - IRAY:RENDER :: 1.0 IRAY rend info : Received update to 00184 iterations after 54.282 s.
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2026-01-28 12:31:03.358 Iray (Scene Traversal) : Initializing update
2026-01-28 12:31:03.358 Iray (Scene Traversal) : Retrieving journal and checking for changes
2026-01-28 12:31:05.408 Iray [INFO] - IRAY:RENDER :: 1.0 IRAY rend progr: 82.34% of image converged
2026-01-28 12:31:05.408 Iray [INFO] - IRAY:RENDER :: 1.0 IRAY rend info : Received update to 00211 iterations after 01:00.066.
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2026-01-28 12:31:15.249 Iray (Scene Traversal) : Retrieving journal and checking for changes
2026-01-28 12:31:16.325 Iray [INFO] - IRAY:RENDER :: 1.0 IRAY rend info : Received update to 00260 iterations after 01:10.983.
2026-01-28 12:31:17.460 Iray [INFO] - IRAY:RENDER :: 1.0 IRAY rend info : Received update to 00265 iterations after 01:12.118.
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2026-01-28 12:31:26.413 Iray (Scene Traversal) : Initializing update
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2026-01-28 12:31:27.509 Iray [INFO] - IRAY:RENDER :: 1.0 IRAY rend info : Received update to 00311 iterations after 01:22.167.
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2026-01-28 12:31:32.231 Iray (Scene Traversal) : Retrieving journal and checking for changes
2026-01-28 12:31:33.180 Iray [INFO] - IRAY:RENDER :: 1.0 IRAY rend progr: 93.30% of image converged
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2026-01-28 12:31:46.343 Iray [INFO] - IRAY:RENDER :: 1.0 IRAY rend progr: Convergence threshold reached.
2026-01-28 12:31:47.368 [INFO] :: Saved image: /Users/anon/Library/Application Support/DAZ 3D/Studio4/temp/render/r.png
2026-01-28 12:31:47.369 [INFO] :: Finished rendering.
2026-01-28 12:31:47.691 [INFO] :: Total Rendering Time: 2 minutes 1.43 seconds
2026-01-28 12:31:47.702 [INFO] :: Loaded image: r.png
2026-01-28 12:31:47.726 [INFO] :: Saved image: /Users/anon/Library/Application Support/DAZ 3D/Studio4/temp/RenderAlbumTmp/Render 4.jpg

Fauvist · January 28

So that's the file log for 1 character. What am I looking for. (I changed my name to "anon" twice in the last 5 lines.)

Fauvist · January 28

OK! There's ERRORS. Many say pbrskin . So there are errors related to the pbrskin. How do I fix it?

felis · January 28

Have you installed default ressources?

And if you look at that path, does the file then exist?

IceCrMn · January 28

You'll need to delete the package to force DIM to download the new one that has the PBRSkin shader.

So find the package in DIM

Right click on it and Delete it.

Then uninstall it.

Now reinstall it.

Fauvist · January 28

IceCrMn said:

You'll need to delete the package to force DIM to download the new one that has the PBRSkin shader.

So find the package in DIM

Right click on it and Delete it.

Then uninstall it.

Now reinstall it.

OK. I uninstalled the resources and am reinstalling them now. Here's another batch of errors that are from the same log entry as above (not from the log entry after I reinstalled the resources)

IceCrMn · January 28

The log says it's looking in a Connect library for it.

Do you have the deafult resources installed twice?

Once in DIM and again with Connect?

If so, you need to uninstall it from Connect.

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