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Totally confused about DAZ 3D Licenses

kenmokenmo Posts: 1,143
in The Commons

Sorry but  this page about "DAZ 3D Licenses" totally confuses and frightens me. I am not good at this legal jargin

https://www.daz3d.com/daz-licenses

It seems to indicate any DAZ items I legally purchase at your store, I must now pay a fee if I use the DAZ asset in commerical renders. I appears the fee must be paid for every asset I use in thecommercial render/image/illustration.

However I am not into game development or 3D printing and can fully understand the requirement for a separate license agreement for these endeavors.

Can some one cut out the legal jardon and in simple Englist explain exactly what this page is telling me?

Cheers and totally confused...

Kenmo

Comments

  • SofaCitizenSofaCitizen Posts: 2,142

    Unless it's changed recently, any 2D renders you make can be used in any way you see fit - with the exception of the ones with the editorial licence which can only be used for "hobby" reasons and there is no option to use those commercially.

    The additional for Interactive Licence is only relevant if whatever you are distributing includes the actual meshes etc - which 2D image renders do not.

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 109,502

    Which bit are you reading as saying a payment would be required? It's difficult to reply without knowing that, though as SofaCitizen says you are licensed to use your 2D renders commercially as long as they have the standard license (which most do).

  • kenmokenmo Posts: 1,143
    edited December 2025

    From the very link I provided in my original post.​

     

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  • kenmokenmo Posts: 1,143

    Also this statement is confusing? Is not ALL assets sold here DAZ Content? And if there is PA items, perhaps there should be a separate DAZ store for these items for purchase?

    Sorry we need a very simplified version of this agreement with NONE of this confusing jargon. I really do not have the money to hire a lawyer to interpret this document NOR do I comphrend it.

    I DO NOT share or give away any DAZ item I have purchased, I am not a game developer NOR do I 3D print and IF I did I have enough of my own 3D creations (created from scratch) to use for printing.

    The online DAZ store offers for sale a license to Content owned or licensed by DAZ and/or a license to Content owned or licensed by third-party published artists ("PA"). The Daz website also offers tools and services for the generation of images and other output leveraging AI. In this Agreement, "DAZ Content" shall refer to Content owned solely by DAZ or to libraries licensed by DAZ; "PA Content" shall refer to Content owned solely by a PA or to libraries licensed to PAs; and "Content" shall refer to both DAZ Content and PA Content. Output generated from the User having provided input to AI tools and services on the Daz website which were provided to deliver this output to the User for this purpose shall be referred to as “Generated Content”; and “Combined Content” shall refer to both Content and Generated Content.

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 109,502

    Yes, but which section in particular?

  • LeanaLeana Posts: 12,987
    edited December 2025

    Buying a product in the store does give you the right to use it in commercial renders, unless it's a product with an educational license (which will be stated on the product page). The price you pay is the licensing fee for the standard license.

     

    There are 2 main types of products sold in the store:

    • Daz Originals, which are products that Daz owns, either created in house or bought from a content creator for a flat fee. Daz gets 100% of the revenue on those items.
    • PA items, which are owned by the vendor who created them, and sold in the store in exchange for a cut of the revenue (typically 50%). Any product which does not have "Daz originals" as one of the vendors falls into this category.
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  • ElorElor Posts: 3,611

    DAZ in 'DAZ content' (and in the whole licence text) is about Daz, the company, not Daz Studio the software.

    DAZ Content is content owned solely by Daz the company, because that content was either created by them (either in-house, if they have in-house artists or by commissioning artists to create it) or because they bought it when a PA was willing to sell it. You can identified it because 'Daz Originals' is the first and sometime the only artist named on that product's page.

    PA Content is content owned by someone else (like Mousso, Martin J Frost, Zev0, and so on). You can identify them because 'Daz Originals' is not listed among the artists on a product's page.

  • kenmokenmo Posts: 1,143

    Thanks for clearing things up. So only "DAZ Content" can be used in commercial illustrations. PA Content" can not be used in commnercial illustrations until you pay a licensing fee. Ok, now I understand.

  • joannajoanna Posts: 2,456

    kenmo said:

    Thanks for clearing things up. So only "DAZ Content" can be used in commercial illustrations. PA Content" can not be used in commnercial illustrations until you pay a licensing fee. Ok, now I understand.

    No. You still don't understand.

    • Any item in the store (with the exception of items marked as "editorial license") can be used in a commercial render.
    • When you buy the product, you are actually buying the license to use it: while you download the files, you don't technically own them. As you can't pass them onto another person or sell them. This is what buying license to use Daz products refer to. Daz Originals belong to Daz company who, when you buy them, licenses them to you for commercial use. Other products belong to the respective Published Artists who, when you buy them, license them to you for commercial use. The wording "licensing" is so that you are not permitted to resell the actual products or pass them to other people, share them, etc. You do not pay any additional fees to use your render for commercial purposes.
    • The only usage that requires additional licenses is 3D printing or including the actual product (not a flat render) in a video game.

     

  • kenmokenmo Posts: 1,143

    Richard Haseltine said:

    Yes, but which section in particular?

    I posted a screen capture and highlighted it in YELLOW. But since this site has had technical issues with Cloudflare, I will post it again.

    See attached below.

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  • kenmokenmo Posts: 1,143

    joanna said:

    kenmo said:

    Thanks for clearing things up. So only "DAZ Content" can be used in commercial illustrations. PA Content" can not be used in commnercial illustrations until you pay a licensing fee. Ok, now I understand.

    No. You still don't understand.

    • Any item in the store (with the exception of items marked as "editorial license") can be used in a commercial render.
    • When you buy the product, you are actually buying the license to use it: while you download the files, you don't technically own them. As you can't pass them onto another person or sell them. This is what buying license to use Daz products refer to. Daz Originals belong to Daz company who, when you buy them, licenses them to you for commercial use. Other products belong to the respective Published Artists who, when you buy them, license them to you for commercial use. The wording "licensing" is so that you are not permitted to resell the actual products or pass them to other people, share them, etc. You do not pay any additional fees to use your render for commercial purposes.
    • The only usage that requires additional licenses is 3D printing or including the actual product (not a flat render) in a video game.

    Thanks kindly that does clear things up but when I read  "Other products belong to the respective Published Artists who, when you buy them, license them to you for commercial use"

    I thought they were suffesting that when you purchase a PA, you must license it, sounding like you had to purchase a license for use.

    The article overwritten and too complicated to read or make sense from. A more simpler FAQ without all the fancy legal work would have been much appreciated. I can read technical manuals for computers, software or cars. But not this legal nonesense that to get the real meaning you have to hire a lawyer. I did no expect something so wordy and threatening from a friendly organization as DAZ with whom I've always had a very pleasant experience when I contacted about a purchase or a technical issue. 

    Many cheers and thanks for clearing things up.

     

  • Matt_CastleMatt_Castle Posts: 3,097

    kenmo said:

    Thanks kindly that does clear things up but when I read  "Other products belong to the respective Published Artists who, when you buy them, license them to you for commercial use"

    I thought they were suffesting that when you purchase a PA, you must license it, sounding like you had to purchase a license for use.

    When you make a purchase from the store, you are strictly purchasing a licence to use that content as specified within the user agreement, but not ownership of that content.

    This is an important distinction in legal terms, as ownership conveys far more rights (including the right of redistribution) than the permissions granted by a licence. Hence why the user agreement uses these terms.

    ~~~~~

    In a practical sense, if you make a purchase from the store, the standard licence is automatically included, granting permission to use that product to render out images for either personal or commercial use, including sub-licencing or sale of the render. The exceptions to this are if the product is marked as "Editorial Licence", which is generally taken to mean "personal use only" with no permission to use it commercially.

    You may even 3D print for personal use on the standard licence. (The 3D print licence is only required for commercial use).

    You are not however allowed to share the product files with anyone else, regardless of what level of modification you may do to them; the extended "Interactive" licences grant some level of permission to do this, but only for certain use cases.

  • doubledeviantdoubledeviant Posts: 1,345
    kenmo said:

    Richard Haseltine said:

    Yes, but which section in particular?

    I posted a screen capture and highlighted it in YELLOW. But since this site has had technical issues with Cloudflare, I will post it again.

    See attached below.

    That looks to be saying that you agree to pay the fee to license the content and any required taxes on that purchase before receiving and using the content. It might seem to stating the obvious, but that's the way of these things.
  • rcourtri_789f4b1c6brcourtri_789f4b1c6b Posts: 288

    kenmo said:

    I posted a screen capture and highlighted it in YELLOW. But since this site has had technical issues with Cloudflare, I will post it again.

    See attached below.

    Your highlighted section is three sentences.  In effect:

    1.  "User agrees to pay, prior to or concurrent with delivery. . ."--You have to pay up front, and as soon as Daz accept payment, you can start downloading content.

    2.  "User agrees to pay Daz any and all applicable taxes. . ."--Daz collects sales taxes, and those taxes aren't included in the price of a license.

    3.  "Furthermore, User agrees to pay Daz all costs. . ."--If you owe Daz for licensed content and haven't paid, Daz can hire collection agents and/or sue you, and you would owe not only the cost of the licenses, but also collection costs, including court and attorney fees.  This includes (but isn't limited to) situations like canceling credit card payments after you've downloaded content, using the content in ways that go beyond the purchased license (Example: The end user used content in a way that would be covered by an extended license, but they only have a standard license), and unlawful redistribution (internet piracy or other unauthorized copying).

  • kenmokenmo Posts: 1,143

    Each time I download content from DAZ and before I can download an item I am directed to pay via Credit Card, Amazon Pay, Pay Pal.

    The thought of cancelling my credit card for a DAZ purchase is silly. Not sure which kind of person would do so, especially to a freindly and easy to deal with merchant like DAZ.

    I've added an item once or twice over the many years to my cart and  after purchasing, reatlizing the mistake contacted sales. They reversed the charges and I deleted the item from my library. The same with technical issues. Great staff and very helpful.

  • rcourtri_789f4b1c6brcourtri_789f4b1c6b Posts: 288

    kenmo said:

    Each time I download content from DAZ and before I can download an item I am directed to pay via Credit Card, Amazon Pay, Pay Pal.

    The thought of cancelling my credit card for a DAZ purchase is silly. Not sure which kind of person would do so, especially to a freindly and easy to deal with merchant like DAZ.

    I've added an item once or twice over the many years to my cart and  after purchasing, reatlizing the mistake contacted sales. They reversed the charges and I deleted the item from my library. The same with technical issues. Great staff and very helpful.

    Nobody mentioned cancellation of the card or account closure, which would be silly.  I was referring to attempts to dispute or claw back particular charges to an account.

    Yes, Daz's refund policy makes it unnecessary to dispute charges, usually, provided you are an authorized to make charges to that account, and you made the purchase in good faith, and you delete your download.

    However, there are reasons why someone might want to cancel a charge:

    1. There is a dispute about a non-refundable charge, like a membership.

    2. Unauthorized use: Stolen card, stolen card info., etc.

    3. Bad-faith refund. Your money gets refunded but you keep (and potentially copy and disseminate) your Install Manager files. 

    Numbers 2 and 3 would be the basis for much e-commerce fraud and/or internet piracy of content.  But that's a subject for a different thread.

     

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