There's Always Another Sale Thread -- Discussions Only Pt 5

3DSaga · September 15

MissLeah said:

Plus, a golden ticket seems to count as a new release over $1. That was the only new thing in the cart I just checked out with.

Thanks for mentioning this! I removed the new release and used the GT item to trigger the sale prices. Without the more expensive new release there's more room for additional sale items. Everything in my cart is between 90- 93% off (the items are $1.57 each). This is with no tokens, just the qualifying GT item and the coupon in the orange banner. The PA sale is good again!

XiousDs · September 15

In my cart a bunch of PW's products from around gen 2-3 era went from $1.26 to over $6. All of my FE, FG, SU, and Lil flame filled cart items went from 96-98% off to 79-95% off. Doesn't seem like much but takes a $100 cart and bumps it up to over $300!

3DSaga · September 15

I'm surprised you experience such a price rise on the Lil Flame items. That's what my cart is filled with for the most part, and I'm getting them for the prices I mentioned. What could account for such a discrepancy?

XiousDs · September 15

3DSaga said:

I'm surprised you experience such a price rise on the Lil Flame items. That's what my cart is filled with for the most part, and I'm getting them for the prices I mentioned. What could account for such a discrepancy?

Don't know but with tokens and 30% extra coupon I was getting between 96-98% off.

daveso · September 15

Richard Haseltine said:

I am told there were no deliberate changes - can you please give me some examples of what happened?

I didn't screen shot but I had items as much as 97% off, must 93. I went in to rabbit more but when I went back to the cart they we 91 or lower.

Richard Haseltine · September 15

XiousDs said:

Richard Haseltine said:

What were the percentages?

I just so happen to have both the original window I was shopping on and the one I opened up later after noticing my cart jumped up in price around 3-4 fold. This shows the first 4 items on the pages. Unfortunately I don't have a screen shot that shows my initial cart prices. Because of the better starting prices in store before adding 8 tokens and 30% off discount code along with a lower floor price I was managing discounts on some items between 96-98% off when looking in cart. Prices are still decent, and I probably would have bought some of the items at their price now if I had not already had them in my cart for the 96-98% off.

Thank you.

XiousDs · September 16

Richard Haseltine said:

XiousDs said:

Richard Haseltine said:

What were the percentages?

I just so happen to have both the original window I was shopping on and the one I opened up later after noticing my cart jumped up in price around 3-4 fold. This shows the first 4 items on the pages. Unfortunately I don't have a screen shot that shows my initial cart prices. Because of the better starting prices in store before adding 8 tokens and 30% off discount code along with a lower floor price I was managing discounts on some items between 96-98% off when looking in cart. Prices are still decent, and I probably would have bought some of the items at their price now if I had not already had them in my cart for the 96-98% off.

Thank you.

If you would like I can grab more screen shots of previous sale prices from the sale. I only have access to my phone right now so I can only show about 4 items per screen shot.

Richard Haseltine · September 16

XiousDs said:

Richard Haseltine said:

XiousDs said:

Richard Haseltine said:

What were the percentages?

I just so happen to have both the original window I was shopping on and the one I opened up later after noticing my cart jumped up in price around 3-4 fold. This shows the first 4 items on the pages. Unfortunately I don't have a screen shot that shows my initial cart prices. Because of the better starting prices in store before adding 8 tokens and 30% off discount code along with a lower floor price I was managing discounts on some items between 96-98% off when looking in cart. Prices are still decent, and I probably would have bought some of the items at their price now if I had not already had them in my cart for the 96-98% off.

Thank you.

If you would like I can grab more screen shots of previous sale prices from the sale. I only have access to my phone right now so I can only show about 4 items per screen shot.

Thanks, I haven't had any further reply yet but I would think the one image has enough information to show that something changed - though of course I have no idea which prices were correct.

SilverGirl · September 16

Richard - There was a while as I was trying for a second cart that a lot of items were listing for under $1 on the sales page (so, no cart discounts applied) and then when I put them in my cart, they'd jump up to $3ish. Other things that were listing $3-ish jumped to $7ish, etc. No screenshots or banana for scale as I was on my tablet and just sort of went "meh" and was happy with what I'd gotten so far. (And also had to scamper off and be a Responsible Adult In Charge Of Kids.) But something was definitely hinkey for a while.

As far as I can see, it seems to have straightened itself out.

doubledeviant · September 16

Don't know what all the hubbub earlier was about, or what I missed, but some of the flash sale artists right now are offering the majority of their stores at outlet pricing (with all relevant discounts activated). Much lower and I'd think Daz would actually be losing money on many transactions after taking payment processing fees into account.

So no complaints here - I bought a veritable library of G9/G8 hairs. :)

namffuak · September 16

I had seven items, with six being at a dollar; they all went up to $2.99. They are now at 83 to 88% off, so I'm assuming there was an adjustment to a minimum cost.

oddbob · September 16

I had some items jump in price that were already in the cart and then after that some that increased in price from the store to the cart. There were a few that stayed at a very low price. Strange experience for sure.

rokkr · September 16

Sometimes this price floor produces, well... how could I put it mildly? Like, not so intelligent results... For instance, now, we have this:

"A Dream Come True

Use Coupon Code: WISHING
Get an extra 50% off* up to 20 Wishlist items

OR extra 60% off* with any Debut New Release or Golden Ticket Item"

However, most items in my cart (and wishlist, after filtering it to show only today's featured artists) already floor to $2.09 after applying all my tokens, discounts, etc., so I don't have any incentive to buy any new item... The discount it produces is negligible...

XiousDs · September 16

rokkr said:

Sometimes this price floor produces, well... how could I put it mildly? Like, not so intelligent results... For instance, now, we have this:

"A Dream Come True

Use Coupon Code: WISHING
Get an extra 50% off* up to 20 Wishlist items

OR extra 60% off* with any Debut New Release or Golden Ticket Item"

However, most items in my cart (and wishlist, after filtering it to show only today's featured artists) already floor to $2.09 after applying all my tokens, discounts, etc., so I don't have any incentive to buy any new item... The discount it produces is negligible...

In sone cases it makes the value of earning tokens with premier useless. To me one of the big bonuses of premier has been earning tokens for much less spending to stack discounts more often and bigger, but if we keep having floors that waste full stack discounts then there is not the incentive to buy the items necessary to qualify for special extra discounts and tokens. If I see a sale showing the potential for huge stacking bonuses and then the stacking is killed by a floor price, it takes the wind right out of my buying sails. Then it becomes about what is my discount being wasted on, what is the discount not being wasted on, and probably ending in a cart dump.

paulawp (marahzen) · September 16

doubledeviant said:

Don't know what all the hubbub earlier was about, or what I missed, but some of the flash sale artists right now are offering the majority of their stores at outlet pricing (with all relevant discounts activated). Much lower and I'd think Daz would actually be losing money on many transactions after taking payment processing fees into account.

So no complaints here - I bought a veritable library of G9/G8 hairs. :)

I wasn't able to look at yesterday's sale in detail until after said hubbub, but I got a cart full of good deals with minimal fuss. I have come to realize lately that I have Bought All Of The Stuff, but even so, at the price (which ended up being just a smidge over $1) I bought evey remaining FG item that might ever come into play in the kind of stories I write.

I already had all the hairs.

daveso · September 16

I keep wanting to resub to premium, but the discount coupons rarely stack with the great sales as they use a coupon. That means to use the premium coupon you need to buy even more. It's the game I guess. So it is great for tokens, and maybe the free bundle, that actually costs $19 a month. The PA sale has been good even on base membership that a paid membership isn't really needed, other than for DAZ+ ITEMS

Elor · September 16

daveso said:

I keep wanting to resub to premium, but the discount coupons rarely stack with the great sales as they use a coupon. That means to use the premium coupon you need to buy even more.

The $10 out of $25 is better than the 30% coupon when your have between $25 and ~$33,33 of eligible items, and if you already own a Golden Ticket, you can use it with a $25 cart.

SilverGirl · September 16

paulawp (marahzen) said:

doubledeviant said:

Don't know what all the hubbub earlier was about, or what I missed, but some of the flash sale artists right now are offering the majority of their stores at outlet pricing (with all relevant discounts activated). Much lower and I'd think Daz would actually be losing money on many transactions after taking payment processing fees into account.

So no complaints here - I bought a veritable library of G9/G8 hairs. :)

I wasn't able to look at yesterday's sale in detail until after said hubbub, but I got a cart full of good deals with minimal fuss. I have come to realize lately that I have Bought All Of The Stuff, but even so, at the price (which ended up being just a smidge over $1) I bought evey remaining FG item that might ever come into play in the kind of stories I write.

I already had all the hairs.

I wound up clearing out the FG catalog of anything I might use, too, and a bunch of hairs that probably would have sat on my wishlist indefinitely otherwise. And a few clothing items.

Today's WL coupon did well for me too, floor pricing out a lot of stuff I've been waiting on that hadn't previously gone on sale. And I realized, going through... after this cart, there's really only about half a dozen items I still need to fill gaps, and some gaps where stuff hasn't been made yet and I'm hoping will be at some point. But other than that, everything left on my WL is pretty but if it went away before I got it, I wouldn't have more than a momentary "oh, well darn" moment about it.

Granted, I might find more gaps as I go, but for now I'm golden. What a great sale month!

maikdecker · September 16

daveso said:

I keep wanting to resub to premium, but the discount coupons rarely stack with the great sales as they use a coupon. That means to use the premium coupon you need to buy even more. It's the game I guess. So it is great for tokens, and maybe the free bundle, that actually costs $19 a month. The PA sale has been good even on base membership that a paid membership isn't really needed, other than for DAZ+ ITEMS

Premier? Nah, thanks

I don't use G9, so the free bundles are mostly useless, if they don't contain stuff that can be used with G8 - which is rarely the case
monthly "$ 10.- off a $ 25.- cart" would need me to use most of my monthly allowance for one cart, for which most sales - with a code - wouldn't work
monthly "$ 10.- off a DO product" might or might not work for me, depending if there's the rare DO product that interests me (usually there isn't one)
tokens don't really work for me, because I just spend too little money here and rarely manage to get even a single token

So no, I'm not the target group for that offer. And the last weeks showed, that I am not even in the target group for the DAZ+ offer, as the monthly codes rarely work for me either (unless there's a deal that fits in, like when it doesn't need another code to work... rare thing, that)

For other customers either might be a great deal, but I've been here for a couple years already, so my needs currently rarely a satisfied by the sales offered to me, with DAZ+/Premier not changing that.

rokkr · September 16

XiousDs said:

rokkr said:

Sometimes this price floor produces, well... how could I put it mildly? Like, not so intelligent results... For instance, now, we have this:

"A Dream Come True

Use Coupon Code: WISHING
Get an extra 50% off* up to 20 Wishlist items

OR extra 60% off* with any Debut New Release or Golden Ticket Item"

However, most items in my cart (and wishlist, after filtering it to show only today's featured artists) already floor to $2.09 after applying all my tokens, discounts, etc., so I don't have any incentive to buy any new item... The discount it produces is negligible...

In sone cases it makes the value of earning tokens with premier useless. To me one of the big bonuses of premier has been earning tokens for much less spending to stack discounts more often and bigger, but if we keep having floors that waste full stack discounts then there is not the incentive to buy the items necessary to qualify for special extra discounts and tokens. If I see a sale showing the potential for huge stacking bonuses and then the stacking is killed by a floor price, it takes the wind right out of my buying sails. Then it becomes about what is my discount being wasted on, what is the discount not being wasted on, and probably ending in a cart dump.

But I guess tokens lower the floor... Otherwise it couldn't go below 2.99... Mine is $1.65 for DO and $2.09 for others... And changing the amount of tokens spent is exactly what changes the floor. (For instance: 8 = $2.09, but 7 = $2.12, and so on.)

XiousDs · September 16

rokkr said:

XiousDs said:

rokkr said:

Sometimes this price floor produces, well... how could I put it mildly? Like, not so intelligent results... For instance, now, we have this:

"A Dream Come True

Use Coupon Code: WISHING
Get an extra 50% off* up to 20 Wishlist items

OR extra 60% off* with any Debut New Release or Golden Ticket Item"

However, most items in my cart (and wishlist, after filtering it to show only today's featured artists) already floor to $2.09 after applying all my tokens, discounts, etc., so I don't have any incentive to buy any new item... The discount it produces is negligible...

In sone cases it makes the value of earning tokens with premier useless. To me one of the big bonuses of premier has been earning tokens for much less spending to stack discounts more often and bigger, but if we keep having floors that waste full stack discounts then there is not the incentive to buy the items necessary to qualify for special extra discounts and tokens. If I see a sale showing the potential for huge stacking bonuses and then the stacking is killed by a floor price, it takes the wind right out of my buying sails. Then it becomes about what is my discount being wasted on, what is the discount not being wasted on, and probably ending in a cart dump.

But I guess tokens lower the floor... Otherwise it couldn't go below 2.99... Mine is $1.65 for DO and $2.09 for others... And changing the amount of tokens spent is exactly what changes the floor. (For instance: 8 = $2.09, but 7 = $2.12, and so on.)

I think that works differently. I think the lowest price for the the particular discount deal is $2.99, then other discounts can apply but are capped by the items own final floor floor. Example, when the flash sale was going on on the fe,fg, lilflame etc stuff, when it changed the floor changed on pw productions stuff from $1.26 to something like 6.26 across all of the airport island stuff from gen2-3 era. I don't think tokens can lower that final floor price, I think they just make it easier to hit it. I might be wrong in my thinking, but I think it is safe to say there is a new layer to Daz math now a bunch of the time that make it harder to calculate the final price you should get. I also think the floor pricing pushes folks from buying old stuff. It does for me atleast. If I can get a new item for $2.09, where is the value in buying classic stuff for the same price? I used to clean house of some old scifi/fantasy type stuff when discounts would stack to under$.75, but on a bunch of these sales it's like there's no point to check out the realy old catalog unless it is Stonemason, and I already have almost everything I want from him that's old.

Havos · September 16

XiousDs said:

rokkr said:

Sometimes this price floor produces, well... how could I put it mildly? Like, not so intelligent results... For instance, now, we have this:

"A Dream Come True

Use Coupon Code: WISHING
Get an extra 50% off* up to 20 Wishlist items

OR extra 60% off* with any Debut New Release or Golden Ticket Item"

However, most items in my cart (and wishlist, after filtering it to show only today's featured artists) already floor to $2.09 after applying all my tokens, discounts, etc., so I don't have any incentive to buy any new item... The discount it produces is negligible...

In sone cases it makes the value of earning tokens with premier useless. To me one of the big bonuses of premier has been earning tokens for much less spending to stack discounts more often and bigger, but if we keep having floors that waste full stack discounts then there is not the incentive to buy the items necessary to qualify for special extra discounts and tokens. If I see a sale showing the potential for huge stacking bonuses and then the stacking is killed by a floor price, it takes the wind right out of my buying sails. Then it becomes about what is my discount being wasted on, what is the discount not being wasted on, and probably ending in a cart dump.

Tokens are applied after the 2.99 have been applied, so will give a final min price of 2.09, so they are not useless. All the other discounts are affected by the floor, but not tokens.

rokkr · September 16

Havos said:

XiousDs said:

rokkr said:

Sometimes this price floor produces, well... how could I put it mildly? Like, not so intelligent results... For instance, now, we have this:

"A Dream Come True

Use Coupon Code: WISHING
Get an extra 50% off* up to 20 Wishlist items

OR extra 60% off* with any Debut New Release or Golden Ticket Item"

However, most items in my cart (and wishlist, after filtering it to show only today's featured artists) already floor to $2.09 after applying all my tokens, discounts, etc., so I don't have any incentive to buy any new item... The discount it produces is negligible...

In sone cases it makes the value of earning tokens with premier useless. To me one of the big bonuses of premier has been earning tokens for much less spending to stack discounts more often and bigger, but if we keep having floors that waste full stack discounts then there is not the incentive to buy the items necessary to qualify for special extra discounts and tokens. If I see a sale showing the potential for huge stacking bonuses and then the stacking is killed by a floor price, it takes the wind right out of my buying sails. Then it becomes about what is my discount being wasted on, what is the discount not being wasted on, and probably ending in a cart dump.

Tokens are applied after the 2.99 have been applied, so will give a final min price of 2.09, so they are not useless. All the other discounts are affected by the floor, but not tokens.

Yeah. Exactly like this. I guess the only discounts not affected by the floor price are tokens and the DO discount for Primers and Premiers (hence, max for non-DO is $2.09, but DOs are $1.65—in my case, as a premier). And there are the + items, but I don't quite remember how their final prices are calculated...Everything else during those sales—“30 gets you 30,” Golden Ticket, featured artists discounts, etc.—is caught in the floor net.

XiousDs · September 17

rokkr said:

Havos said:

XiousDs said:

rokkr said:

Sometimes this price floor produces, well... how could I put it mildly? Like, not so intelligent results... For instance, now, we have this:

"A Dream Come True

Use Coupon Code: WISHING
Get an extra 50% off* up to 20 Wishlist items

OR extra 60% off* with any Debut New Release or Golden Ticket Item"

However, most items in my cart (and wishlist, after filtering it to show only today's featured artists) already floor to $2.09 after applying all my tokens, discounts, etc., so I don't have any incentive to buy any new item... The discount it produces is negligible...

In sone cases it makes the value of earning tokens with premier useless. To me one of the big bonuses of premier has been earning tokens for much less spending to stack discounts more often and bigger, but if we keep having floors that waste full stack discounts then there is not the incentive to buy the items necessary to qualify for special extra discounts and tokens. If I see a sale showing the potential for huge stacking bonuses and then the stacking is killed by a floor price, it takes the wind right out of my buying sails. Then it becomes about what is my discount being wasted on, what is the discount not being wasted on, and probably ending in a cart dump.

Tokens are applied after the 2.99 have been applied, so will give a final min price of 2.09, so they are not useless. All the other discounts are affected by the floor, but not tokens.

Yeah. Exactly like this. I guess the only discounts not affected by the floor price are tokens and the DO discount for Primers and Premiers (hence, max for non-DO is $2.09, but DOs are $1.65—in my case, as a premier). And there are the + items, but I don't quite remember how their final prices are calculated...Everything else during those sales—“30 gets you 30,” Golden Ticket, featured artists discounts, etc.—is caught in the floor net.

Thanks, for clarification. I hadn't payed attention to which specifically dropped under the floor base. But now see you are correct with checking a few items.

daveso · September 17

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Charlie Judge · September 17

Today's Golden Ticket is a real bargain -- a complete PW house complex with both exterior and interior. I already have several of their houses and don't need any more; but for only $3 I couldn't resist..

daveso · September 17

Charlie Judge said:

Today's Golden Ticket is a real bargain -- a complete PW house complex with both exterior and interior. I already have several of their houses and don't need any more; but for only $3 I couldn't resist..

It's in my cart along with a few other wallet draining items

CO3DR · September 18

Hanako 9 HD Add-On requires Hanako 9 HD Add-On (and I fall down the rabbit hole where it's turtles all the way down)

https://www.daz3d.com/hanako-9-hd-add-on

dxlee38_3879dda43f · September 18

Worth it anyway. However many Hanakos 9 HD add-ons you have to buy!

tsroemi · September 18

I know we've been moaning about this already for some time, but I really REALLY need to say once more how annoying these undistinguishing floor prices are. I have so many nice older items in my WL that I would love to include in my carts, but I can't justify paying as much for a 20 year old item as for one from last year. It doesn't make the least bit of sense. Especially if the items are circling through the Outlet Store later on, at much lower prices. It would be great if the floor price thingy could be restricted to younger items, maybe from the last five years or so.

Moan over, and to end with something positive: I do love the Moon character for G9 that is today's Golden Ticket! Such a sweet idea. Here's the link:https://www.daz3d.com/lunardo-for-genesis-9

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