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Bring back Victoria + Michael 1.0 and 2.0

K_WILDK_WILD Posts: 30
edited August 30 in Product Suggestions

Now I know these are basically twenty year old models. But look: Millennium Man and Millennium Woman are both considered lost media at this point since they were taken out of circulation. You literally cannot find anything on them or archives for them (I'd rather obtain them through legitimate means anyways).

 

For Pete's sake there's really no documentation for them on the Daz wiki.

 

I genuinely think it'd be a good idea that Daz rerelease these models as legacy items so that they can have a chance at getting preserved + archived since they are, quite literally, a part of Daz's history. And maybe they'll have proper documentation if they're recirculated as legacy items 

 

Don't you think they should do that?

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  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 40,000

    a lot of us have them and can assure you, you are not missing much

  • GordigGordig Posts: 10,597

    Whether we think they should do that is immaterial. There's no reason to think that they would.

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 107,857

    K_WILD said:

    Now I know these are basically twenty year old models. But look: Millennium Man and Millennium Woman are both considered lost media at this point since they were taken out of circulation. You literally cannot find anything on them or archives for them (I'd rather obtain them through legitimate means anyways).

    You may not even consider anything but legitimate means.

     

    For Pete's sake there's really no documentation for them on the Daz wiki.

     

    I genuinely think it'd be a good idea that Daz rerelease these models as legacy items so that they can have a chance at getting preserved + archived since they are, quite literally, a part of Daz's history. And maybe they'll have proper documentation if they're recirculated as legacy items 

     

    Don't you think they should do that?

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 40,000

    you can still get V3 and M3, are in Outlet Store too,

    think of V1,2 and M1,2 as less versatile versions of those with terrible UV mapping you would be hard pressed to find any textures for

    (1&2 are the same mesh BTW minus morphs) any clothes out there can be fitted to V3 and M3 using a shape included with them too

    https://www.daz3d.com/victoria-3-0-base

    https://www.daz3d.com/michael-3-0-base

  • K_WILDK_WILD Posts: 30
    WendyLuvsCatz said:

    you can still get V3 and M3, are in Outlet Store too,

    think of V1,2 and M1,2 as less versatile versions of those with terrible UV mapping you would be hard pressed to find any textures for

    (1&2 are the same mesh BTW minus morphs) any clothes out there can be fitted to V3 and M3 using a shape included with them too

    https://www.daz3d.com/victoria-3-0-base

    https://www.daz3d.com/michael-3-0-base

    I already have those in my cart, and unfortunately I'm not satisfied with having just M3/V3 I'd like to actually be able to have a look at Daz's history hands on + make a render of all 9 generations of Victoria and Michael
  • K_WILDK_WILD Posts: 30
    WendyLuvsCatz said:

    a lot of us have them and can assure you, you are not missing much

    Mostly again, I like exploring these models and and stuff that "I'm not missing out on much" on. Regardless of if they're unremarkable or not, they are quite literally a part of Daz Studio's history. There should be a means to preserve them and have them still accessible, rather than hide them away in a vault. I'm also really big into lost media, and I enjoy the idea of actually preservation of everything, even the mundane or boring.
  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 40,000

    well there is nothing we can do about that

    submitting a ticket to DAZ about all you can do but don't hold out any hope

    its unlikely they would bother and might not even have archived the files

    I was only trying to cosole you it isn't a big loss, I never loaded them again after looking once

    I don't actually have M1 but 2 is the same mesh, only disadvantages with him over using M3

  • K_WILDK_WILD Posts: 30
    edited August 30
    WendyLuvsCatz said:

    well there is nothing we can do about that

    submitting a ticket to DAZ about all you can do but don't hold out any hope

    its unlikely they would bother and might not even have archived the files

    I was only trying to cosole you it isn't a big loss, I never loaded them again after looking once

    I don't actually have M1 but 2 is the same mesh, only disadvantages with him over using M3

    Apologies, it's very hard to read what tone the message was said in.
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  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 40,000

    believe me, I would help you if I could

    but if I were inclined to pass on warez, I couldn't imagine the shame of sharing something as sad as that blush

    (just to make it clear I don't share warez, I used to suggest Mimic Lite when it was available for Victoria 1)

  • K_WILDK_WILD Posts: 30
    WendyLuvsCatz said:

    believe me, I would help you if I could

    but if I were inclined to pass on warez, I couldn't imagine the shame of sharing something as sad as that blush

    (just to make it clear I don't share warez, I used to suggest Mimic Lite when it was available for Victoria 1)

    Well at least my search will continue. I'll probably keep an eye out for poser content discs from Zygote/DAZ and hopefully find them two
  • nemesis10nemesis10 Posts: 3,755
    edited August 30

    K_WILD said:

    WendyLuvsCatz said:

    a lot of us have them and can assure you, you are not missing much

    Mostly again, I like exploring these models and and stuff that "I'm not missing out on much" on. Regardless of if they're unremarkable or not, they are quite literally a part of Daz Studio's history. There should be a means to preserve them and have them still accessible, rather than hide them away in a vault. I'm also really big into lost media, and I enjoy the idea of actually preservation of everything, even the mundane or boring.

    Loads of us have those old files in our library.  There is no risk that they would be lost to history; there is probably a render or two in the forums of all the generations and Daz3d almost certainly has all the files.  The problem is that it is an esoteric market with little profit so there really is no incentive to rerelease these figures.  Those of us who have them don't find them that interesting and those that don't would be quickly dissatisfied so I am not quite seeing the appeal other than idle curiousity.

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  • richardandtracyrichardandtracy Posts: 7,077
    I'm pretty sure I once had V2, though my product library disagrees. I understand your desire to have the set, but I don't think it's something you can complete legitimately. Can I suggest you have a good read of the V2/3 thread here as I fear that's the closest you're likely to get to V2. I have made a few developments with V3 towards the end of that thread as I really like Jim Burton's Glamorous Vickie 3 and want to keep her as relevant as possible in a G9 world - not easy with a character dating to 2002. Regards, Richard.
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