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Working on a color project for the Daz Dragon 3

K_WILDK_WILD Posts: 30
edited July 10 in The Commons

So basically this all started because I wasn't impressed with the sheer lack of colors on the Daz Dragon 3, Especially a sheer lack of blue

 

It's basically a simple little project that I've made 9 color variants so far, and I plan on adding more = some fancier and prettier ones later down the road.

 

Hope everyone likes these (also I'm open to color suggestions to work on)


EDIT: To Abide by DAZ's terms, I cannot redistribute this color set as it uses the original scale texture from Daz Dragon 3 as I initially wanted to. Sorry guys

EDIT AGAIN: In the process of creating new textures for the Daz Dragon 3 to avoid the whole dilemma. We're so back
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  • K_WILDK_WILD Posts: 30

    Showing a couple demo renders with both Exis and Crimson colors

    Crimson Demo.png
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    Exis Demo.png
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  • K_WILDK_WILD Posts: 30

    Two more demo renders of the following textures

    Blue Demo.png
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    Topaz Demo.png
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  • richardandtracyrichardandtracy Posts: 7,113
    edited July 8

    The Millenium Dragon had quite a range of colours. Green

    and Blue

    are the best of the Mil-Dragon options I think. If something like those were available, it'd be great. Have you read Anne McCaffrey's 'Dragon Riders of Pern' series? The colours in that have always sounded great, and the ability of Iray to show metallic sheens means that the colours of  Gold, bronze, blue , brown, green, red and maybe white would look spectacular.

    Quite a job, should you choose to take it on.

    Regards,

    Richard

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  • K_WILDK_WILD Posts: 30
    richardandtracy said:

    The Millenium Dragon had quite a range of colours.

    and Blue

     

    are the best of them I think. If something like those were available, it'd be great, and maybe textures a-la-McCaffrey 'Dragon Riders of Pern' Gold, bronze, blue , brown, green red and maybe white?

    Quite a job.

    Regards,

    Richard

    I gotcha covered on the white dragon texture! I can definitely take a crack at getting a bronze color out for sure!
  • Silent WinterSilent Winter Posts: 3,871

    Great work :)

  • memcneil70memcneil70 Posts: 5,295

    Maybe I am missing your point. If you are enjoying creating your own colors for Daz Dragon 3, great. I went through my Product Library and found a group of color options. I am also a fan of Anne McCaffrey's 'Dragon Riders of Pern' since they were originally released.

    Here is a list of products I found with textures:

    https://www.daz3d.com/draconis-borealis-maximus-the-great-northern-dragons

    https://www.daz3d.com/daz-dragon-3-textures

    https://www.daz3d.com/ig-iray-essentials-dragon-3

    https://www.daz3d.com/pbreal-iray-black-dragon-for-daz-dragon-3

    https://www.daz3d.com/crystal-dragon-for-the-daz-dragon-3

    https://www.daz3d.com/da-blue-dragon-hd-for-daz-dragon-3

    https://www.daz3d.com/da-copper-dragon-for-daz-dragon-3

    https://www.daz3d.com/da-dragonling-hd-for-daz-dragon-3

  • richardandtracyrichardandtracy Posts: 7,113

    You know, I get a stabbing pain in the wallet every time someone mentions a paid for item.. cheeky

    How on earth do you find these things? When I do a search for 'Dragon' in the store search, I get lots of dragon things, including these dragon related items:

    With such a wealth of dragon related stuff, where the word 'dragon' appears exactly 0 times on the sale page, I tend to give up and hope I'll see it some day, one day, maybe never...

    Regards,

    Richard

  • TorquinoxTorquinox Posts: 4,249
    edited July 8

    I see color and value shifts in the OP's examples that are lacking in the paid products. I like the results. The blue and topaz look especially nice. I'm wondering if there's a plan to make these textures available to the public. 

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  • memcneil70memcneil70 Posts: 5,295

    @Richard, I keep all my purchased Dragon items promos in one folder, characters, poses, textures, morphs, ... And I used my online Product Library to search by DAZ Dragon 3 or just Dragon, then sort by name. When I first started, I rarely and still rarely get freebies. I have tons waiting to be installed. Initially I didn't understand the filing system, then after buying Content Wizard I ran into lack of time. I also had some crashes that destroyed a number of DAZ installations in the past, or damaged the work I had done. Which meant months of cleanup.

    I am also phobic about websites and downloading. When my son lived with me he downloaded more trojans and crap onto my computers. I went onto one just this morning and security alerted me to danger. Closed immediately. It took me years before I worked up my courage to even BUY an item from Renderosity, much less download a freebie.

    Mary

  • MelanieLMelanieL Posts: 7,721
    edited July 8

    richardandtracy said:

    You know, I get a stabbing pain in the wallet every time someone mentions a paid for item.. cheeky

    How on earth do you find these things? When I do a search for 'Dragon' in the store search, I get lots of dragon things, including these dragon related items:

    With such a wealth of dragon related stuff, where the word 'dragon' appears exactly 0 times on the sale page, I tend to give up and hope I'll see it some day, one day, maybe never...

    Regards,

    Richard

    Richard - quickest way is from the "Product Add-Ons" section at the bottom of the Daz Dragon 3 store page - there are lots and lots of related items listed there (more than fit on my screen capture at the lowest zoom setting my browser allows)

    ETA: Of course not all of those are textures, there are morphs and wearables too.

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  • K_WILDK_WILD Posts: 30
    Torquinox said:

    I see color and value shifts in the OP's examples that are lacking in the paid products. I like the results. The blue and topaz look especially nice. I'm wondering if there's a plan to make these textures available to the public. 

    Thank you ❤️ Oh I'm definitely sharing these once I'm done. Free because I'm not interested in profit. I just want more color options for more colorful dragons
  • K_WILDK_WILD Posts: 30
    edited July 8
    Another lil WIP incoming Got some layers set up better so I can work on the colors more There's also a dire need for orange in the color range so might as well add em too. Hehe Dorito Dragon lol
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  • K_WILDK_WILD Posts: 30
    I swear I can type formatted sentences
  • richardandtracyrichardandtracy Posts: 7,113
    edited July 8

    MelanieL said:

    richardandtracy said:

    ...How on earth do you find these things? ...

    Richard - quickest way is from the "Product Add-Ons" section at the bottom of the Daz Dragon 3 store page - there are lots and lots of related items listed there (more than fit on my screen capture at the lowest zoom setting my browser allows)

    ETA: Of course not all of those are textures, there are morphs and wearables too.

    Don't I feel stupid, now, but you are so right. I should have thought. Doh!  I've been back doing this for 6 years now.. WHY?!? What a nitwit.

    Regards,

    Richard

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  • richardandtracyrichardandtracy Posts: 7,113
    edited July 8

    memcneil70 said:

    @Richard, I keep all my purchased Dragon items promos in one folder, characters, poses, textures, morphs, ... And I used my online Product Library to search by DAZ Dragon 3 or just Dragon, then sort by name. When I first started, I rarely and still rarely get freebies. I have tons waiting to be installed. Initially I didn't understand the filing system, then after buying Content Wizard I ran into lack of time. I also had some crashes that destroyed a number of DAZ installations in the past, or damaged the work I had done. Which meant months of cleanup.

    I am also phobic about websites and downloading. When my son lived with me he downloaded more trojans and crap onto my computers. I went onto one just this morning and security alerted me to danger. Closed immediately. It took me years before I worked up my courage to even BUY an item from Renderosity, much less download a freebie.

    Mary

    I don't have a vast amount I feel I can spend on 'pocket money' hobbies, so I get a good few freebies. I get them mostly from known sites (Renderosity or DAZ principally) as the reputable sites are less likely to have viruses. I downloaded enough freebies to feel that I should give stuff back, and as I joined Rendo 25 years ago and get many, many freebies from them, they get every freebie I do (256 & counting), and I try to upload any that are small enough (less than 5Mb zip file) onto the forums here.

    I think you'll find that most freebie zip files have a 'Content' directory, then you drag & drop the contents of that directory into a content directory set up for freebies using something like Windows File Explorer. That way if it goes wrong, it's separate from your main paid for content. If the freebie creator hasn't made it easy and failed to include a 'Content' directory, delete the file. You've lost nothing.

    I will confess I install all my paid for content this way, and have done so since I first got Poser (year 2002, maybe?). I don't like being locked in to DAZ as my only shop and as a result won't use DIM either.

    Regards,

    Richard

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  • richardandtracyrichardandtracy Posts: 7,113

    K_WILD said:

    Another lil WIP incoming Got some layers set up better so I can work on the colors more There's also a dire need for orange in the color range so might as well add em too. Hehe Dorito Dragon lol

    What you've done looks pretty good.

    Regards,

    Richard

  • scorpioscorpio Posts: 8,533

    K_WILD said:

    Another lil WIP incoming Got some layers set up better so I can work on the colors more There's also a dire need for orange in the color range so might as well add em too. Hehe Dorito Dragon lol

    Are these based on the original textures? 

  • K_WILDK_WILD Posts: 30

    scorpio said:

    K_WILD said:

    Another lil WIP incoming Got some layers set up better so I can work on the colors more There's also a dire need for orange in the color range so might as well add em too. Hehe Dorito Dragon lol

    Are these based on the original textures? 

    Yes they are ^^ 

  • K_WILDK_WILD Posts: 30

    Alright! got a bunch of sample renders featuring the following colors

    • Amethyst
    • Aquamarine
    • Bronze
    • Carnelian
    • Emerald
    • Howlite
    • Jasper
    • Mica
    • Ruby
    • Sapphire
    • Topaz
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    Aquamarine Demo.png
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    Bronze Demo.png
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    Carnelian Demo.png
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    Emerald Demo.png
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    Howlite Demo.png
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    Jasper Demo.png
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    Mica Demo.png
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    Ruby Demo.png
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    Sapphire Demo.png
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    Topaz Demo.png
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  • K_WILDK_WILD Posts: 30

    Another shot of the Bronze, and a better view of the wings

    I did some marking texturing along the edges of it because i thought It would look nice tbh

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  • K_WILDK_WILD Posts: 30

    richardandtracy said:

    K_WILD said:

    Another lil WIP incoming Got some layers set up better so I can work on the colors more There's also a dire need for orange in the color range so might as well add em too. Hehe Dorito Dragon lol

    What you've done looks pretty good.

    Regards,

    Richard

    Thank you so much! 

  • TorquinoxTorquinox Posts: 4,249

    K_WILD said:

    scorpio said:

    K_WILD said:

    Another lil WIP incoming Got some layers set up better so I can work on the colors more There's also a dire need for orange in the color range so might as well add em too. Hehe Dorito Dragon lol

    Are these based on the original textures? 

    Yes they are ^^ 

    You likely can't offer these textures to others as they are not your own all-original textures. You would need permission from Daz. 

  • K_WILDK_WILD Posts: 30

    Torquinox said:

    K_WILD said:

    scorpio said:

    K_WILD said:

    Another lil WIP incoming Got some layers set up better so I can work on the colors more There's also a dire need for orange in the color range so might as well add em too. Hehe Dorito Dragon lol

    Are these based on the original textures? 

    Yes they are ^^ 

    You likely can't offer these textures to others as they are not your own all-original textures. You would need permission from Daz. 

    Oof. That's a bummer. because I would have loved to give these color variants out as freebies 

  • MelanieLMelanieL Posts: 7,721

    richardandtracy said:

    MelanieL said:

    richardandtracy said:

    ...How on earth do you find these things? ...

    Richard - quickest way is from the "Product Add-Ons" section at the bottom of the Daz Dragon 3 store page - there are lots and lots of related items listed there (more than fit on my screen capture at the lowest zoom setting my browser allows)

    ETA: Of course not all of those are textures, there are morphs and wearables too.

    Don't I feel stupid, now, but you are so right. I should have thought. Doh!  I've been back doing this for 6 years now.. WHY?!? What a nitwit.

    Regards,

    Richard

    Aw, don't beat yourself up! There are so many things you are so good at! (Hence your wonderful freebies collection) So I'm sure nitwit is not the word smiley

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 107,971

    K_WILD said:

    Torquinox said:

    K_WILD said:

    scorpio said:

    K_WILD said:

    Another lil WIP incoming Got some layers set up better so I can work on the colors more There's also a dire need for orange in the color range so might as well add em too. Hehe Dorito Dragon lol

    Are these based on the original textures? 

    Yes they are ^^ 

    You likely can't offer these textures to others as they are not your own all-original textures. You would need permission from Daz. 

    Oof. That's a bummer. because I would have loved to give these color variants out as freebies 

    You can't share the modified maps, but if you can separate your work out as overlays that do not incorporate or follow the base maps you might well be able to share those with instructions on how to combine them (or Layered Image presets to do it in DS). It will depend on exactly what you diid to make the variants, and whether you have the required working files.

  • K_WILDK_WILD Posts: 30
    Richard Haseltine said:

    K_WILD said:

    Torquinox said:

    K_WILD said:

    scorpio said:

    K_WILD said:

    Another lil WIP incoming Got some layers set up better so I can work on the colors more There's also a dire need for orange in the color range so might as well add em too. Hehe Dorito Dragon lol

    Are these based on the original textures? 

    Yes they are ^^ 

    You likely can't offer these textures to others as they are not your own all-original textures. You would need permission from Daz. 

    Oof. That's a bummer. because I would have loved to give these color variants out as freebies 

    You can't share the modified maps, but if you can separate your work out as overlays that do not incorporate or follow the base maps you might well be able to share those with instructions on how to combine them (or Layered Image presets to do it in DS). It will depend on exactly what you diid to make the variants, and whether you have the required working files.

    I could definitely supply the overlay colors without the texture What I did (I use Clip Studio for art related things) - I used the silver dragon texture as a base - Converted brightness to transparency, created a color area and alpha locked it and used clipping layers - Duplicated the texture layer, set one to 77% Overlay, and the other 68% Multiply - Used the color layer to create the color alts That's the basic breakdown of how I was able to make those color textures
  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 107,971

    K_WILD said:

    Richard Haseltine said:

    K_WILD said:

    Torquinox said:

    K_WILD said:

    scorpio said:

    K_WILD said:

    Another lil WIP incoming Got some layers set up better so I can work on the colors more There's also a dire need for orange in the color range so might as well add em too. Hehe Dorito Dragon lol

    Are these based on the original textures? 

    Yes they are ^^ 

    You likely can't offer these textures to others as they are not your own all-original textures. You would need permission from Daz. 

    Oof. That's a bummer. because I would have loved to give these color variants out as freebies 

    You can't share the modified maps, but if you can separate your work out as overlays that do not incorporate or follow the base maps you might well be able to share those with instructions on how to combine them (or Layered Image presets to do it in DS). It will depend on exactly what you diid to make the variants, and whether you have the required working files.

    I could definitely supply the overlay colors without the texture What I did (I use Clip Studio for art related things) - I used the silver dragon texture as a base - Converted brightness to transparency, created a color area and alpha locked it and used clipping layers - Duplicated the texture layer, set one to 77% Overlay, and the other 68% Multiply - Used the color layer to create the color alts That's the basic breakdown of how I was able to make those color textures

    The mask layer from the texture you wouldn't be able to include (but most image editors can do the equivalent, I think, either directly or copying the grey channel or one of the colour channels to a mask).

  • K_WILDK_WILD Posts: 30
    WOOT! THERE'S STILL HOPE FOR THIS COLOR PROJECT! Finally had a breakthrough and I'm working on making some new scale textures for the color project!
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  • TorquinoxTorquinox Posts: 4,249

    That sounds promising!

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