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Casement windows

JOdelJOdel Posts: 6,321
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Okay, because the store search appears to be useless, can anyone suggest a model of a comparitively modern room with casement windows. NOT sash windows.

I know that they exist, I probably even have one (or more) but just finding windows that open is getting to be a major chore. I'm doing an illustration and need to at leat try to match the description in the text.

And if anyone can explain why Barnabas Ragwort turns up in a search for "casement windows" please do so.

 

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  • TaozTaoz Posts: 10,264
    edited May 18

    The only thing I've been able to find is this classroom, where the windows open inwards, using Y Rotate. Not sure it that is useful.

    TS Classroom - https://www.daz3d.com/ts-classroom

    The window section and the windows can be loaded separately though, so maybe these can be used.

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  • CybersoxCybersox Posts: 9,282

    There are several construction sets that include them, and I find that it's usually just as easy to set up the windows from one of those compontents then to try to adapt an existing wall.  My quick fallback these days tends to be the mammoth P.I.C.K. sets from Vanishing Point, which are nominally made for Poser but work fine in DS and Iray with minimal tweaking and/or shaders,.. I use the Ultimatte set, which has just about anything you can want, but between the base set and Georgian window expansion set, there's a pretty wide selection of units that can be opened for a very reasonable price.   You can also check out the Create a Room options from Collective 3d and the various room construction sets from maclean.    

  • tsroemitsroemi Posts: 3,488

    There's a simple european window with different opening morphs in this set, and it's even in the outlet store right now: https://www.daz3d.com/modern-ouija-session. Hope that helps!

  • richardandtracyrichardandtracy Posts: 7,162
    You know, looking at the set, something struck me. I've never seen (or maybe never registered) inward opening casement windows. Every single one I've come across (experience largely limited to the UK) is outward opening. It makes sealing the window against weather easier, cleaning the windows difficult, and if the wind catches the window while holding the handle, you can get dragged out. But.. that's the way windows are. Unless you've seen different. In our house, we just use sash windows. Regards, Richard.
  • namffuaknamffuak Posts: 4,413

    That set even shows why they don't open inward - it's snaging the roller shade in one of the images.

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 108,204

    On the other hand, if they open inwards they can be open when any shutters are closed - so which way they open may depend on just how hot and sunny it has historically tended to get in the area in question. (Didin't we have this discussion a while back?)

  • TaozTaoz Posts: 10,264
    edited May 18

    Just stumbled upon this in the new outlet category:

    https://www.daz3d.com/modern-baloy-house

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  • CybersoxCybersox Posts: 9,282

    richardandtracy said:

    You know, looking at the set, something struck me. I've never seen (or maybe never registered) inward opening casement windows. Every single one I've come across (experience largely limited to the UK) is outward opening. It makes sealing the window against weather easier, cleaning the windows difficult, and if the wind catches the window while holding the handle, you can get dragged out. But.. that's the way windows are. Unless you've seen different. In our house, we just use sash windows. Regards, Richard.

    I've seen plenty that open inward, though those usually have a wider bottom sil.  I suspect that the choice often comes down to the local weather patterns, as ones that open inwards are likely to direct inclement weather indoors whereas ones that open outward are more prone to wind-driven damage, and can also be dangerous on lower floors as an obstacle... as my brother learned once by running into the edge of one.  Finally, ones that open outward are more likely to funnel inside air out, whereas once that open inward are more likely to let outside air in. 

  • richardandtracyrichardandtracy Posts: 7,162

    Where I've used casement windows, the outward opening windows can be used to scoop wind parallel to the relavent wall into the building.

    That, and easier weather-proofing, are about the only advantages I can see to outward opening casements. Wonder why I never thought about it... I did think fairly seriously about sash windows once, when I made 2 from scratch using available timber and steel scrap (for weights) from my stock pile in the workshop. It was an interesting exercise. First took a whole weekend, then having tweaked the design to make it simpler to make, the second took 3 hours using a mitresaw, hand router and a couple of chisels. With a mortice adaptor to a drill press, it could have been nearer the 2 hour mark.

    Regards,

    Richard

  • tsroemitsroemi Posts: 3,488

    Our house has outward-opening windows, and they only help in strong winds if the winds are so considerate to come directly from the front on all sides of the house, which, strangely, they rarely do. You can leave stuff on the window sill inside which is nice, but they're a real PITA concerning mosquito windows. And a looooot of critters move into the frame during winter, because of course, the window pane hinges also face outwards. So it's rather messy and inconvenient, and I wouldn't recommend, seeing I had inwards-opening windows in all my living quarters before and not any of those problems. But ours are dead pretty, so there's that ;-)

  • LorraineLorraine Posts: 886

    I've never seen an inward opening window here in NZ, they are all outward, either side hanging or top hanging, or sliding. Sash windows are in 19th, early 20th C wooden houses, wooden outward casement in later 20th C wooden houses and now aluminium joinery from the late 70' onward.

  • CybersoxCybersox Posts: 9,282

    lorraineopua said:

    I've never seen an inward opening window here in NZ, they are all outward, either side hanging or top hanging, or sliding. Sash windows are in 19th, early 20th C wooden houses, wooden outward casement in later 20th C wooden houses and now aluminium joinery from the late 70' onward.

    Given the globalization of manufacturing, I imagine that a lot of it depends upon the manufacturers who build hardware locally or import to an area and what kind of regular stock the local wholesalers/retailers in that area decide to maintain.

    I decided to dig a little further on this, and it seems that in North America, the "default" casement window opens outward with a crank.  One that opens inward is specifically referred to as an Inward Opening Casement, with the most common reasons for choosing the variant being ease of cleaning, use in combination with external storm shutters, and use in area with extremely high winds.  The following is a cut and paste from one window manufacturer describing the five types of casements - 

    Outward Opening Casements

    The window swings outward from the building, which comes with several advantages:

    • Creates excellent ventilation by "catching" passing breezes.
    • Keeps interior space clear of protruding windows.
    • Prevents rain from entering when the window is open.
    • Allows for easy screen installation on the interior.

    Push-Out Casements

    A variant of outward opening windows that uses a manual push-out mechanism instead of a crank:

    • Opens with a simple push after unlatching.
    • Often used in traditional or historic-style homes.
    • Usually has a friction hinge to hold the window open.
    • Commonly includes a limiting stay to control the opening angle.

    Inward Opening Casements

    • Allows for easy cleaning from inside.
    • Better suited for buildings exposed to strong winds.
    • Requires interior space clearance when open.
    • Often used in combination with exterior shutters.

    French-Style Casements

    These are paired windows that open from the center:

    • Both sashes open outward from a central meeting point.
    • No center post or mullion when open.
    • Provides a wide, unobstructed opening.
    • Excellent for emergency egress.

    Top-Hung Casements

    While technically a different category, these are sometimes grouped with casement windows:

    • Hinged at the top and opens outward from the bottom.
    • Good for ventilation while providing rain protection.
    • Often used in combination with regular casements.
    • Common in commercial buildings and modern homes.

    So, now you know, and knowing is half of the battle. :)         

  • LeanaLeana Posts: 12,779

    richardandtracy said:

    You know, looking at the set, something struck me. I've never seen (or maybe never registered) inward opening casement windows. Every single one I've come across (experience largely limited to the UK) is outward opening.

    And on the other hand, I've rarely ever seen any outward opening casement windows here in France. Shutters open outwards, but windows generally open inwards.
    I suppose each country has its usual style.

  • HoroHoro Posts: 11,368

    Leana said:

    richardandtracy said:

    You know, looking at the set, something struck me. I've never seen (or maybe never registered) inward opening casement windows. Every single one I've come across (experience largely limited to the UK) is outward opening.

    And on the other hand, I've rarely ever seen any outward opening casement windows here in France. Shutters open outwards, but windows generally open inwards.
    I suppose each country has its usual style.

    Windows open inwards in Switzerland and as far as I experienced, also in Germany and France but I remember my time in southern UK that the windows open outward.

  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,753

    The windows on my apartments in Zurich were all inward opening, from the high rises (well 10 stories I guess qualifies) built in the 70s to a more modern, but more shabbily constructed 4 story apartment building built in 1990.

    The house I'm in now in the USA from 1970 has all horrible windows you raise straight up and down of brittle 1960s glass, flimsy aluminum, and spring-loaded pressured tracked to create friction on the sides that must be a joke because the intent of the springs and tracks to create enough friction to keep the windows raised doesn't work after a completely forseeable number of use cycles. The livingroom does have 2 inward opening windows hinged on the bottom like common in old USA elementary schools if the building design is old enough. Those still work fine.

  • PeshkwePeshkwe Posts: 2

    Maybe this?  

    https://www.daz3d.com/modern-ouija-session

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