Just noticed each Rev up point lasts 6 days now
HorusRa
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Just noticed each Rev up point lasts 6 days now
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yup, spotted that about an hour ago, It is a very welcome improvement to the sale...
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i just noticed that as well...thats pretty awesome! but now we have to keep track lol
It says "Instead of the 4 days they had lasted for previously," which makes me wonder if they mean each product will be eligible for 6 days instead of 4 (tho I thought it had only been 3). On the other hand, the page no longer says you lose a rev-up each day either...or if does I can't find it.
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True that ^
ooops, double post somehow. Not intentional. sorry.
No, it means the Rev lasts for six days instead of four - which is effectively how the old rules worked.
The start of the promotion said that you got a rev if you bought something and lost a rev if you did not, I don't recall anything said about a rev expiring after 4 days. Despite what is being said, the new rules are actual worse than the old (except that the old rules did actually have a 4 day expiry, but we were not told about it)
Nah, new rules are better. It's the same rules, except you have more time before they expire. In the past revs lasted 4 days, now they last 6. So nothing is worse, other than being harder to remember.
The wording has changed, but it's the same game. Now with grace period. Your revs last longer..that really is the only change.
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I don't recall anywhere saying revs expired after 4 days, it must have been in the small print somewhere. Without the new "improved" rules you only had to get a rev every other day to keep a 40% discount. The expire rule must be particularly bad for anyone that started with 2 or 4, as you would lose them all in a single day.
revs always expired after 4 days. you just didn't think about it that way.
We did not think it that way, because it was not explained that way. Revs were lost for failing to buy an item the previous day, and that is all, expiring after 4 days is not a logical consequence of that, it was a hidden rule that was mentioned only after the deal had been changed
Point you keep ignoring, is you now have a grace period for buying, where you did not in the past. I get complaining about valid concerns, but in this case things did not get worse.
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Right, they always expired. But people never thought about it. So now they are telling us clearly "they expire" so I think it most ways its more clear.
Also, now it seems it's easier for more casual shoppers to get a discount as if you buy a single rev, you should have that for a few days now. Where in the past it was gone the day after next. Or am I missing something? Like if I was at zero, and purcashed one item today that qualified. Instead of it going to zero the day after tommorow wouldn't I still have my rev for 3 days?
The old phrasing had not much to do with the implementation and that is something you should really not do as a online shop. In the old phrasing there was no expiration date whatsover. With the old phrasing (if properly implemented, which it wasn't) you could've actually regained 4 revs very quickly again should you've lost one or two in between and - more importantly - you could've stayed there without risk of dropping back. With the "4 days expiration" implementation, however, that did not work of course.
That having been said, with my spending pattern I can live with the current implementation.
Indeed the new deal may actually be worse, but it is not relevant now, as that is what it is going forward.
Agreed, but where this is different (if I'm understanding DAZ Logic™ correctly) is that under the old rules, it didn't matter how long I'd had any particular rev-up point, I could immediately stop all loss of points by buying something that qualified. Under the new rules, if I miss a day or two (which I can, and still keep my full 4 points) there's a hidden "loss of points" gradually creeping towards that 6-day deadline. At which point, even if I've bought something on each of the last few days, I still lose a point.
In five or six days, under the new rules, a lot of people are going to begin losing points for no apparent reason. I think they might be somewhat disgruntled.
This is all getting too complicated, even more than it already was.
No, if you bought on 4 of the last 6 days you keep 4 points. As long as you don't skip more than 2 out of every 6 those 2 skipped days won't affect you. If you skipped 3 days, would it shock you to start losing points?
Mine was at 20%. I was thinking to myself that this is not the best sale. 40% plus an additional 20% is 60%. There are 60% flash sales all the time, not to mention the 70% fast grabs. I decided it wasn't a good idea to buy something I didn't want, just to keep my rev-meter charged.
This morning, my rev-up was at 0%.
This evening, it is at 20% again, but I just purchased several things over at Renderosity. I picked up some sale items and they gave me an additional 35% off because it was my first purchase there.
It would help if that was explicitly stated in the rules. Like I said, "if I'm understanding DAZ Logic™ correctly". The difference in emphasis and phrasing might not seem like much, but IMHO it's a significant change in the meaning of what the rules actually said — the trigger for losing a point isn't the same.
You always lost your revs, after 4 days. You just did not realize it because you kept buying...and you could never have more than 4 rev ups..See how that works? Your revs were never perpetual! They just kept you buying them regularly enough, with a cap, to make you think they were stocking up some how.
I agree, its complicated. Because how can you remember how many days it was since the first qualifying rev item was purcased? But it is more lenient than before, even if it's a bit harder to calculate.
I came up with this spreadsheet to visually keep me on track of my Rev-Up meter. It is showing me tomorrow, 9/8, the Rev-Up meter will be at 4.
So does this 6 day period start with the ones purchased today (or did this get posted yesterday?) or from the very beginning? When do they start from?
To figure that out we need a graph of the space time Daz uses.
Consult your nearest Escher print. Preferably while drunk.
I just noticed the fine print and says ".. instead of the 4 days they had lasted for previously". If the 6 days started today, 9/7, according to my revised chart I'll drop to 2 Rev-Ups on 9/8. My revised chart shows there is no way for me to get back up to 4 if I can only get 1 Rev-Up per day. On the other hand, after the Rev modification today, I went from 3 this morning back up to 4, then I bought an qualifiying product today, which reflects what I see on my first chart, start off with 4 on 9/8.
Guess I'll see what happens at the stroke of DAZ Midnight.
Edit: After thinking about it and how many other's have had their Rev-Up meter "restored", it sounds like the 4 to 6 change was retroactive from the beginning.. We'll see soon enough...
Edit: It's 9/8 and I'm still at 4, though maybe there is a meter script that needs to be run that hasn't run yet.
I think it's pretty sad that you need a spread sheet to figure out how a sale works, and even that doesn't work. I bought a new item every day except Sept 5 and 6, I lost 1 rev 1 day, 2 the next day, 1 the next day and yesterday bought an item which put me back to 4, and today I am back at 3...where is the rhyme and reason in this sale? no matter how you add it up it doesn't make sense...
Did you have revs when you started? from purchases prior to the sale's start? They too have expiration dates.