How is DAZ Studio doing with Windows 10 ?

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  • nDelphinDelphi Posts: 1,916
    RAMWolff said:

    I was under the impression this browser is just a recompile of the FF 32 bit but perhaps there's a bit more going on under the hood!  Thanks again for the recommendation.. my new default I think!  laugh

    It is based on the 64-bit code by Mozilla. It has a code name, but it escapes me at the moment. Mozilla has never relesed a 64-bit version based on that code, only the Developer Edition, and I would not recommend that at all. It isn't even compatible with many plugins! The 32-bit Firefox gets sluggish as soon as it gets within 600 MBs, this isn't an issue with the 64-bit version. Also, any 32-bit application running on a 64-bit OS will be slower as it has to be run by 32-bit to 64-bit libraries.

  • RogerbeeRogerbee Posts: 4,460
    nDelphi said:
    Rogerbee said:

    If we get to page 45 without anyone wanting to wage nuclear war on Microsoft, I might give it whirl....

    CHEERS!

    LOL! You caught me by surprise with this. I almost busted a gut.

    One aims to please! LOL!

    CHEERS!

  • RogerbeeRogerbee Posts: 4,460
    RAMWolff said:

    Just watched this...

    http://www.cnet.com/videos/changed-your-mind-on-windows-10-heres-how-you-can-roll-back/?tag=nl.e703&s_cid=e703&ttag=e703&ftag=CAD090e536

    If you hate hate hate Windows 10 you CAN roll back to your previous edition as long as it's within 30 days.  Only works for 7/8/8.1

    I have an installation disk for 7, I used it to rolll my laptop back after I fell out with 8. I hope it's different on 10, but, I changed my email address on this computer, but couldn't change my user account on my laptop, which was tied to my old email address, so I ended up putting 7 back on there. Hopefully that disk gives me unlimited installs...

    CHEERS!

     

  • jimmulvaneyjimmulvaney Posts: 341
    edited July 2015

    I switched over on day one and then reverted back to 7 the same day. At first glance I was not impressed plus all of my programs were still set as defaults so that helped, but it didn't give me a real sense of the true OS. I am currently backing up important stuff only, no programs and then will switch back to 10 and do a full system reset. Then see how long it takes me to get sick of it before I revert back. That being said for all of us artists out there did you see this? http://www.howtogeek.com/222614/how-to-enable-windows-10’s-hidden-dark-theme/ A simple registry tweak and you have a new theme. That being said people are currently working on W10 themes/ skins so we might just have Aero back after all. laugh

    HA! There is also a Win10 skin pack for 7/8.1 https://skinpacks.com/download/windows-7/windows-9-skin-pack/

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  • RogerbeeRogerbee Posts: 4,460

    Not keen on that dark theme, but, I suspect that the makers of Aero Glass for 8 will have something similar for 10 up their sleeves, we'll see.

    CHEERS!

  • RAMWolffRAMWolff Posts: 10,343

    Yea, was aware that Mozilla never released a stable 64 bit version.. didn't even know about the Developer Edition and won't bother with it.  I like Cyber just fine. 

    Not liking the Dark Theme so will just use what I will use. 

    Downloaded the new NVIDIA drivers for Windows 10 and created a Windows 10 folder in my backup drives so when this happens I have all the goodies I can find before the big day to keep my head from exploding with anger and disgust!  lmao 

    Here is a link to make switching back to a Mozilla sort of browser a little easier..

    https://blog.mozilla.org/futurereleases/2015/07/29/firefox-for-windows-10-how-to-restore-or-choose-firefox-as-your-default-browser/

     

  • RAMWolffRAMWolff Posts: 10,343

    Such Drama your having over this SnowPhoenix.  I highly doubt MS will shoot themselves completely in the foot over all this.  They can't afford to, they depend on this version to be the next one that businesses will adopt, they piss off enough folks that won't happen.  They will fix their mistakes, they usually do in time....

  • vwranglervwrangler Posts: 4,970
    edited July 2015
    RAMWolff said:

    Liking Cyberfox more than Firefox.  There is something in my set up on Firefox that prevents me from logging into my MS account but on Cyberfox I have no issue at all.  Weird stuff there.  It does indeed seem much faster than FF.  I have Sync set up and it's got all my addons loaded up so it's not those.  Just something in the FF code that's wonky!  I was under the impression this browser is just a recompile of the FF 32 bit but perhaps there's a bit more going on under the hood!  Thanks again for the recommendation.. my new default I think!  laugh

    One thing to note, if it's relevant for your use, is that both Cyberfox and Waterfox have issues rendering the Notifications page on Deviantart. And ONLY that page, for some reason. There's something about the dA javascript on that page that they don't like; something about "too many recursions". They will randomly render the page, and then stop rendering it at all or render it only incompletely. The finger-pointing circle at the moment is kind of epic, but the consensus seems to be that there's something on the notifications page that's incompatible with any 64-bit version of Firefox or its forks at this point. Since the userbase for Cyberfox and Waterfox is so small at the moment, dA has no interest in fixing it, and the devs at the browsers can't do anything without dA's help.

    That said, it may well be that there's an interaction with the OS that's involved as well. Do you have any problems seeing that page on Windows 10? (That wouldn't be enough to get me to switch right now -- I'm not even thinking about it before the August SP1 update or the October Threshold update. [The Threshold update has always been planned by MS; the August SP1 update appears to be a last-minute development in reaction to issues that testers were having with the RTM build.])

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  • RAMWolffRAMWolff Posts: 10,343

    I found that the GOM player page doesn't display at all.. all I get is text and links and a few images but in other browsers, as well as Firefox I get this really slick nice looking website experience. 

    http://www.gomlab.com/

     

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  • nDelphinDelphi Posts: 1,916
    vwrangler said:

    One thing to note, if it's relevant for your use, is that both Cyberfox and Waterfox have issues rendering the Notifications page on Deviantart. And ONLY that page, for some reason.

    Yes, I noticed that. I should have mentioned it. It is only that page. I can however browse it without any issue with WaterFox for some strange reason. Am I the only one? Only CyberFox is acting up on that page for me.

    I went to http://www.gomlab.com/ website with CyberFox without any issues.

    I am using Windows 10, so it isn't a combination of the OS you use.

  • vwranglervwrangler Posts: 4,970
    nDelphi said:
    vwrangler said:

    One thing to note, if it's relevant for your use, is that both Cyberfox and Waterfox have issues rendering the Notifications page on Deviantart. And ONLY that page, for some reason.

    Yes, I noticed that. I should have mentioned it. It is only that page. I can however browse it without any issue with WaterFox for some strange reason. Am I the only one? Only CyberFox is acting up on that page for me.

    I went to http://www.gomlab.com/ website with CyberFox without any issues.

    I am using Windows 10, so it isn't a combination of the OS you use.

    On Windows 7, I can't get either Cyberfox or Waterfox to render the notifications page consistently. It's been discussed in both the Cyberfox and Waterfox forums, so it's not specific to either one. It's possible that Pale Moon, another 64-bit Firefox fork, may not have issues, but if their version numbers are synced the same way the Cyberfox and Waterfox builds are, they're WAY behind on build updates.

  • I installed windows ten on my (laptop asus (x555ld core i7 nvidia 420m 8 gig of ram) then had a dispay driver issue while running iray the screen went black and I had to reset to get it back, updated the driver then the same thing happened, now rolled it back to windows 8.1 not installing it again until I know it's stable on my machine

     

    anyone else had this problem on notebooks ?

  • I just completed my laptop upgrade from 8.1 pro to 10in place; no apparent problems.  Will test DS tomorrow

  • I just completed my laptop upgrade from 8.1 pro to 10in place; no apparent problems.  Will test DS tomorrow

    yeah I had no problems at all to speak of until I  ran Iray 

  • RogerbeeRogerbee Posts: 4,460

    Good job Iray isn't my render engine of choice then. I'm still on the fence regarding 10, the splinters are getting uncomfortable though!

    CHEERS!

  • Rogerbee said:

    Good job Iray isn't my render engine of choice then. I'm still on the fence regarding 10, the splinters are getting uncomfortable though!

    CHEERS!

    oh if you do revert back to 8  and rolling it back seemed to trash my mail and contacts app 

  • RogerbeeRogerbee Posts: 4,460

    Ouch, which one were you using?

    CHEERS!

  • SiscaSisca Posts: 875
    acanthis said:

    And here's another cracking good "feature" in Windows 10. Want to share your WiFi passwords with all your pals? No? Tough.

    http://reviews.gizmodo.com/why-the-hell-is-windows-10-sharing-my-wi-fi-passwords-1719900675

     

    Here's a better article that explains how the feature actually works: http://www.zdnet.com/article/no-windows-10s-wi-fi-sense-feature-is-not-a-security-risk/ .

    Yes, you can share your wifi with all of your contacts if you go through the process of selecting the network, turning on sharing and entering the wifi password.

    Still, that only allows those contacts to access your wifi if they are in range. It doesn't actually send them a copy of your wifi password, in fact the whole idea is to let people visiting you access your wifi without you having to give them the password at all.

    Oh, and it only allows those with Windows 10 devices (laptops, Surface or Windows Phone) to connect. Even someone with a laptop running 8.1 can't connect much less iOs or Android so you're talking about a small ecosystem anyway.

    I will agree that not being able to shut off the auto updates is annoying though I appreciate that I can now schedule the restart instead of having it decide to do it right in the middle of something. I also have to admit that as a MS Technet member and part of their early access programs I've been running Win 8/8.1 with automatic updating on my primary machine for the last couple of years and had absolutely no issues so I'm not as worried about that as some might be. Still, I'm a believer that options are good so I've submitted feedback requesting an option to delay updates at the very least for even home users.

    As for Daz, I can say that 4.8 and DIM work with no issues and maybe even a slight performance boost but it's hard to say. In fact I've yet to find a single app or game that doesn't work and that includes Photoshop CS2. 

  • RogerbeeRogerbee Posts: 4,460

    Ok, great, my faith is returning!

    CHEERS!

  • PUREDIGITAL101PUREDIGITAL101 Posts: 32
    edited August 2015
    Rogerbee said:

    Ouch, which one were you using?

    CHEERS!

    Rogerbee said:

    outlook in the start menu  just kept closing five seconds after it opened had to unistall and reinstall

     

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  • RAMWolffRAMWolff Posts: 10,343

    Thank you for posting Sisca.  This is a total relief!  smiley

  • RogerbeeRogerbee Posts: 4,460
    Rogerbee said:

    Ouch, which one were you using?

    CHEERS!

    Rogerbee said:

    outlook in the start menu  just kept closing five seconds after it opened had to unistall and reinstall

     

    I see, up till forum links started getting broken I was using Windows Live Mail, but I've been using Thunderbird since then and it doesn't break the links.

    CHEERS!

  • acanthisacanthis Posts: 604
    Sisca said:
    acanthis said:

    And here's another cracking good "feature" in Windows 10. Want to share your WiFi passwords with all your pals? No? Tough.

    http://reviews.gizmodo.com/why-the-hell-is-windows-10-sharing-my-wi-fi-passwords-1719900675

     

    Here's a better article that explains how the feature actually works: http://www.zdnet.com/article/no-windows-10s-wi-fi-sense-feature-is-not-a-security-risk/ .

    Yes, you can share your wifi with all of your contacts if you go through the process of selecting the network, turning on sharing and entering the wifi password.

    Still, that only allows those contacts to access your wifi if they are in range. It doesn't actually send them a copy of your wifi password, in fact the whole idea is to let people visiting you access your wifi without you having to give them the password at all.

    Oh, and it only allows those with Windows 10 devices (laptops, Surface or Windows Phone) to connect. Even someone with a laptop running 8.1 can't connect much less iOs or Android so you're talking about a small ecosystem anyway.

    I will agree that not being able to shut off the auto updates is annoying though I appreciate that I can now schedule the restart instead of having it decide to do it right in the middle of something. I also have to admit that as a MS Technet member and part of their early access programs I've been running Win 8/8.1 with automatic updating on my primary machine for the last couple of years and had absolutely no issues so I'm not as worried about that as some might be. Still, I'm a believer that options are good so I've submitted feedback requesting an option to delay updates at the very least for even home users.

    As for Daz, I can say that 4.8 and DIM work with no issues and maybe even a slight performance boost but it's hard to say. In fact I've yet to find a single app or game that doesn't work and that includes Photoshop CS2. 

    Thanks for that link. It doesn't answer three questions I have, though.

    1) Why is it on by default?

    2) Why does the feature exist at all? I don't ever remember reading about anyone clamouring for a facility to give internet access to everybody they know on Facebook when that person happens to pop round for a real world interaction.

    3) Following on from (2); Why is it indiscriminate, sharing the selected network with all contacts? Are all of your contacts also your pals? Do you really want your bank manager getting free internet access when he comes by to forclose on your mortgage or refuse your credit application?

    I'm really wondering why anyone under any circumstances would even want to use WiFi NONSense. It would be easier just to enable your public cloud option on your home WiFi router.

    But anyway, thanks for the clarification. Maybe M$ should have clarified this themselves much sooner.

  • How about members of a gmaing group, or voluntary organisiation, that meet in each others' houses and need internet access? Or just real world friends who visit each other? I admit making it all in certain potentially large groups is a bit odd, but it saves having to enter or select IDs in some way and as noted it means you can give people access without having to give them the password, so it's more restricted than the old, ad hoc, method. But it seems to be off in the sense of not allowing anyone access by default, so not really a huge issue.

  • acanthisacanthis Posts: 604

    How about members of a gmaing group, or voluntary organisiation, that meet in each others' houses and need internet access? Or just real world friends who visit each other? I admit making it all in certain potentially large groups is a bit odd, but it saves having to enter or select IDs in some way and as noted it means you can give people access without having to give them the password, so it's more restricted than the old, ad hoc, method. But it seems to be off in the sense of not allowing anyone access by default, so not really a huge issue.

    Well I suppose I can see that scenario, but again I don't think it's something that people were crying out for. Also, suppose one of your friends has a secret porn habit. Not the type of porn that might be acceptable, say. He/she sits outside your house without you knowing it, slurping up gigabytes of questionable content. Whose IP address gets reported to the FBI?

    No, I don't like WiFi NONSense, and nobody can convince me that it is safe. Aside from the (admittedly unlikely) scenario above, we all know that there are going to be exploits in this code and - imho - it won't be long before this "feature" becomes a gaping security hole. M$ should turn it OFF by default and revisit the whole facility. It shouldn't be "all" contacts, and it certainly shouldn't be anything to do with Facebook; it should be limited to nominated contacts in your Windows Address book (again that's imho - other people have other views. Fair enough).

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