Anatomical Elements and Foreskin
lzh35925
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Hi,
I want to ask about how to control foreskin on uncircumcised anatomical elements for G8M from Michael Pro Bundle ? Is there an option to move the foreskin back and forth, because I'm unable to find it or do I need another tool for it ?
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You are out of luck here at DAZ, they don't really focus on any detail concerning genitals, not family friendly enough, LOL Try renderotica
Yep, in Dazland, one doesn't have access to those elements prior to ones 18th birthday and even then one needs to buy a bundle of things to get one on the side. One also must have skin to wrap it in or borrow one from a fellow citizen - No playing with it or it will fall off
Nope. It's either on or off with the Daz ones.
You can buy replacement genitalia from certain other stores.
The absolute power of an alternative product is that you'll get 21 separate foreskin controls, as opposed to the On/Off on the ones you currently have.
Don't you mean forsaken?
Well, Soto's Maxx has a "foreskin rolled" morph in the Daz store. I think Tempestra's gen morphs at Renderosity might suit your needs with circumcised, uncircumcised, and "halfway" morphs.
Yes (Maxx)! used it in my deviant works.
I was aware about Maxx, but it goes only half way down and if you pull it back it disappear. It's kinda weird morph at least with original male genitalia for G8M. It's a shame they didn't finished the foreskin, because it would be a better business decision, if they do.. well, in any case, many thx to everyone for answers, I try some alternative..
There are also some excellent morph sets for the DAZ gens available on Renderosity if you don't want to deal with the explicitness of Renderotica. For example, Tempesta3d has a standalone set for the G8M gens called Manly that includes a number of foreskin shapes and other morphs, and that vendor sells several character sets that include similar morphs. The selection at Rotica is, of course, a lot bigger (pun NOT intended) but, yeah, there are things there that some folks would rather not see (and again, pun NOT originally intended, but what can ya do?.)
Manly is the Tempestra Renderosity morph set that I mentioned. The Maxx consists of multiple morphs including "rolled" which partially exposes the glans, a specific uncircumcised control, and a morph to add details to the uncircumcised morph.
There's also THIS freebie on deviantart. It has some foreskin morphs for the default g8m gens.
And there's also Jepe's Roderick for Diego 8, who comes with
but none for moving the foreskin forth and back. In the end one probably needs several products to achieve exactly what one wants... For adjusting the base DAZ male anatomical elements some products by LexaKiness at Renderotica might be usefull
thx, for more answers!
nemesis10: Manly looks interresting, I probably give it a shot!
zombietaggerunj: this one literally deform the model, I can't use it
maikdecker: I actually own Jepe, but he can adjust only the genitals, not the foreskin
The default Daz genitals are very much of the scope that "There's something there for artistic nude renders", they're not made (or built in a way they can be converted) for finer posing. What you want would be far better served by a third party product.
As others have said, I recommend you look at the Renderotica store. Personally, my recommendations in terms of cross compatibilty of assets and posing support is to look at products from the vendor Meipe.
Yeah, at least there's no morphs to tiddle with the foreskin, which I mentioned the need to use several products to achieve full functionality of the anatomical elements..
Meipe's products are great (and I own a couple...) but you always work with a "replacement anatomical element" (which offers tons of options..) which usually needs to adapt the torso textures to apply them to the anatomical elements. So at least for figures that come with their own dedicated textures for the DAZ anatomical elements I rather use the LexaKiness mophs for the DAZ anatomical elements...
Matt_Castle: I've done my research and end up with the same conclusion. It will be probably 2 products instead of 1, but it looks like they worth it
maikdecker: I tried Manly, it has desirable effect, but it's not perfect, but honestly, with little bit of tweaking with camera, I can manage it
One additional question: I used the original male genesis 8 anatomical elements, but it looks like it's happening with 3rd party products as well, when I hide or delete the anatomical elements, the whole section disappear and there's a big hole, where the elements were. How can I restore my model to not have elements, but be whole again, pls ?
If you want him to wear clothing and still have his masculinity somewhat in tackt, set the scale of his masculinity to 30%, this doesn't look pretty as it creates an indentation to the hip, where hia tools will be hidden, but it does allow having both, the dangly bits and clothing to be worn at the same time.
Installed the morphs, loaded a couple different G8M figures... and can't find anything except the half-hidden morph. Looking in the actual dir paths in the zip file, I see a lot of morphs starting with the name MCM, but when I select the gens, I can't find anything in the morphs under Parameters tab with the that in the name, and there isn't a MediAsylum sub-group of morphs showing. It is clear I did install the morphs, because if I go into My DAZ 3D Library, I can find the actual files sitting in ...\data\DAZ 3D\Genesis 8\Male Genitalia\Morphs\MediAsylum\Advanced G8MGen but nothing is showing up in Daz Studio. Am I missing something? 0o
They show up for me under Advanced Control, with the gens selected:
This is just a small part of the list obviously.
Ah, there it is... >>giggle<< I guess what threw me for a curve is that the slider names left the MCM stuff off, and it was all in a generic-sounding category in there.
Just to quell any doubts about matching textures - I have never had a problem getting the Meipe gens to match the character skin. There's a good blend region which means ther's no sharp colour or texture transition and then it is just a matter of picking the closest of the available texture shades and tweaking in the surfaces panel (usually just a matter of adjusting the Translucency value).
Well, I guess they are ready to potty train if nothing else.
A geografted foreskin for the G8M Genitalia attempt (WIP):
Please wish me a good luck for morphing and texturing.
There are at least a few Daz figures that include those details. a couple mentioned in the thread above. I agree with Renderotica for all those needs. Naturally, those are a bit more per item than what one pays here..
I could make use of this if you turn it into a saleable product
I don't plan on turning it into a commercial product.
But who knows—maybe a freebie?
In any case, the project is progressing slowly and might not be easy to use—especially the texturing, for which I can't find a simple solution. And I don't want to use AI.
For texturing I could suggest to create 2 new UVs. One for the genital, where you compress the area and have a gap corresponding to the UV from your addon.
I.e. the original genital will have a gap in its new UV, where the UV for your add-on fit. So for texturing you will also change the UV of the genital, and both part will use the same texture (surface settings).
Thank you for your suggestion. I'm not sure to understand well what you mean, but i'll give it a try.
I am not sure how much geometry your foreskin geograft removes from the original. But I assumes minimum 2 lines.
This is the G8M genital UV map. I have marked 2 lines, and I would suggest to put your geometry UV between these, and then compress the base so it matches with your. The figure is just a concept. The actual area must be determined on the actual geometry.
But in order to make this work you will need the UV map for your geograft, as well as a new for the genitals.
If you can keep your geometry in the removed lines, you dont need to make a new UV for the genitals.
My initial concept: (images 1 and 2)
My geograft is a copy of Gen3, Gen4, Gen5, and Gen6 nodes of the original (zeroed) Genesis 8 Male Genitalia + added skin geometry intended to partially (say halfway) cover the Gen5 and Gen6 nodes area.
Only this added skin should be morphed, as the geograft will follow the G8M Genitalia Morphs (I used Tranfer Utility).
This makes the added skin morphing a bit tricky... For now I made full forward and full backward morphs and corrective morphs for the intermediate positions.
For texturing I copy the original Genesis Male Genitalia Surface (Genitalia) and paste it to all of my geograft.
Then I have to apply appropriate UV maps. For now I use an inverted UV (think of a half inside out sock) that uses the mirrored skin of the Shaft instead of the Glans Area.(Image 3)
It works well with some textures but shows bad with some other.
Too much UV compressing results in too less texture density.