Genres You'd Like to See in the Store?

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  • CbirdCbird Posts: 493

    More tabs of all kinds sounds wonderful. Great suggestions in the thread so far.

    I use the genre tab constantly. I would love an Ancient Greece and Rome option. Other periods/cultures too.

    when trying to search toons more categories would be great.

    Filtering out pc or only pc both useful.

    also having the tabs work better on iPad, so you aren't constantly clicking thr row above would be great!

  • BlueFingersBlueFingers Posts: 904

    psfilipe said:

    Sevrin said:

     

    What we need is to be able to split out

    • Figures
    • Outfits/Clothes
    • Hair
    • Tutorials
    • Poses/Expressions
    • Utilities
    • Environments/Props


    Absolutely this and also:

    • Shaders
    • Lights

    Yes!!! 

  • KlimaxKlimax Posts: 23

    1) I don¨t use genre fitlers, they are too useless. (too broad)

    2) None of them, they suffer from same problem. (also seem to be made from american perspective)

    3)Frankly, forget genres, we need better filtering.

  • Mark_e593e0a5Mark_e593e0a5 Posts: 1,601

    I would like to have semi-permanent filters. E.g. I am not at all interested in any character below Genesis 3, and it would be nice to configure that once and it is rememebred while logged in. The filter should be flexible to select what I want included in or excluded from the search result.

    An SQL-like example: select * from daz_products where character is not in (genesis, genesis_2, genesis_3)

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,873

    ...one change that would solve a lot of this would to just have a well designed search engine with filters so customers can narrow down the options to not have to slog though 50 or more pages of items thy have no interest in.  

    I've actually seen it on a few sites and it works pretty well.

  • LasciareLasciare Posts: 184

    Please put back on product pages Required Products  with indication of the ones we already own and Add-ons.

  • j cadej cade Posts: 2,310

    While I think cultural categories like "Black culture" is an idea filled with potential landmines as there isn't one Black culture and if it only includes things that are stereotyped thats awkward

     

    on the other hand, for characters white characters vaaaastly outnumber anything else and it can be a pain to try to sift through all the characters as pasty as I am :) If I'm looking for a Black character or Asian character or what have you

     

    also from an  organization standpoint I think it probably would help to have categories and filters stuck near each other or, even better, fold them into one thing. some of the stuff people have been mentioning are things that exist as categories up at the top, but despite serving a very similar function they are completely separated from filters despite serving a similar function.

    you can go to the categories bar and hit resources and add ons > shaders,

    you can go to people and wearables > genesis 8 people,

    you can go into a sale page and and filter by genesis 8 people,

    but you can't go into a sale page and filter by shaders?

     

  • j cadej cade Posts: 2,310

    also pls bring back addons for products I still miss that

    say if I am on the product page for a clothing item and it has a texture add on that texture addon is listed right there.

    finding texture addons for clothing is painful with the current system - sometimes they don't actually have the clothing item they're addons for in the name and they are literally impossible to find.

  • LasciareLasciare Posts: 184
    edited April 2021

    Black culture genre risks to be a wide open door to systemic racism and, if not, to be peceived as so.

    Post edited by Lasciare on
  • markgoode77markgoode77 Posts: 343

    Lasciare said:

    Black culture genre risks to be a wide open door to systemic racism and, if not, to be peceived as so.

    As could ignoring Black culture, surely? 

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 108,155

    Lasciare said:

    Please put back on product pages Required Products  with indication of the ones we already own and Add-ons.

    Required products are listed for me, if you are not seeing them it may be a browser or plug-in issue.

  • LasciareLasciare Posts: 184

    I checked and you're right. However, it doesn't appear on my iphone anymore.

  • margrave said:

    Please allow us to filter by environments/props/vehicles, please.

    Daz keeps putting eighty bajillion PA stores on sale for March Madness, but all we can filter by are Genesis-related products. Sometimes I just want to see if there are any good environments. However, the prospect of wading through hundreds of figures, hair, and outfits to find them just makes me shut down without even looking.

    Was coming here to say the same thing. I don't need anything massive like filtering based off of prop, vehicles, lighting, etc. But just a simple "Do not include figures or figure assets in search" would be great. It can be frustrating and boring trying to find props or set pieces for a theme during a sale and then you're wading through tons of search results of genesis clothing. 

  • LeanaLeana Posts: 12,773

    Lasciare said:

    I checked and you're right. However, it doesn't appear on my iphone anymore.

    on my iPhone I see them only if I turn the phone so that the page is in "landscape" mode. 

  • LasciareLasciare Posts: 184

    @Leana

    Thank you so much for the tip :)

  • LasciareLasciare Posts: 184

    BlueFingers said:

    psfilipe said:

    Sevrin said:

     

    What we need is to be able to split out

    • Figures
    • Outfits/Clothes
    • Hair
    • Tutorials
    • Poses/Expressions
    • Utilities
    • Environments/Props


    Absolutely this and also:

    • Shaders
    • Lights

    Yes!!! 

    I totally agree. 

  • LasciareLasciare Posts: 184
    edited April 2021

    markgoode77 said:

    Lasciare said:

    Black culture genre risks to be a wide open door to systemic racism and, if not, to be peceived as so.

    As could ignoring Black culture, surely? 

    Yes, but my comment is also valid for latin culture, indian culture and so on... 

    Post edited by Lasciare on
  • HighElfHighElf Posts: 373

    Lasciare said:

    markgoode77 said:

    Lasciare said:

    Black culture genre risks to be a wide open door to systemic racism and, if not, to be peceived as so.

    As could ignoring Black culture, surely? 

    Yes, but my comment is also valid for latin culture, indian culture and so on... 

    And so is "White culture" such a thing just doesn't exist and only racist believe in their existence. When we talk about culture we have to narrow far more down to a small local area like a few villages, and even that could be too broad to be valid. 

    So the only thing I could think about genre would be either your mothers' book genres like mystery, romance, fantasy etc. Or instead, go by "time period x" and "fictional but based on the time period x". Where I prefer the latter, thanks to all the blurred lines we have in the book genres by now. (Contemporary sci-fi romance novel? Seriously wtf?)

  • markgoode77markgoode77 Posts: 343

    HighElf said:

    Lasciare said:

    markgoode77 said:

    Lasciare said:

    Black culture genre risks to be a wide open door to systemic racism and, if not, to be peceived as so.

    As could ignoring Black culture, surely? 

    Yes, but my comment is also valid for latin culture, indian culture and so on... 

    And so is "White culture" such a thing just doesn't exist and only racist believe in their existence. 

    At risk of getting these posts deleted or getting the thread closed, I would argue with this.  There was a suggestion earlier in this thread (or maybe another one) that something representing historic African culture (for example) would be nice.  I agree.  What on Earth's racist about that?

  • SevrinSevrin Posts: 6,313

    markgoode77 said:

    Lasciare said:

    Black culture genre risks to be a wide open door to systemic racism and, if not, to be peceived as so.

    As could ignoring Black culture, surely? 

    Which Black culture are we talking about?  It's not a monolith any more than is European culture.  U.S. urban Black culture?  U.S. rural Black culture?  What time period?  African Black culture?  What part of Africa?  Caribbean Black culture?

  • markgoode77markgoode77 Posts: 343

    Sevrin said:

    markgoode77 said:

    Lasciare said:

    Black culture genre risks to be a wide open door to systemic racism and, if not, to be peceived as so.

    As could ignoring Black culture, surely? 

    Which Black culture are we talking about?  It's not a monolith any more than is European culture.  U.S. urban Black culture?  U.S. rural Black culture?  What time period?  African Black culture?  What part of Africa?  Caribbean Black culture?

    Perhaps it would have been better if I had used the plural.  That is certainly what I was thinking. 

  • richardandtracyrichardandtracy Posts: 7,151
    edited April 2021

    Could I suggest a geographic area & date range for these? Eg Classical Southern Europe 2500BP (B[efore]P[resent]) etc. That will probably avoid treading on any ethnicity & cultural toes or any religious based date systems. It does, however, require a fair degree of knowledge about history. I really couldn't be sure when the Benin cultural flowering happened (think it was 800-400 BP in West Africa), but being able to look at such models would be good.

    Regards,

    Richard.

     

    Post edited by richardandtracy on
  • memcneil70memcneil70 Posts: 5,323

    While I have used 'Vendor' sort option at the top of the store frequently, I don't remember using the other choices offered before. I just tried out 'Places and Things' and 'Resources and Add-ons' and noticed that they could be then filtered by program and then below further filtered by the categories we are being asked to offer suggestions for. I even found a set of Asian vases I had missed and have wishlisted them. This sort option should be more prominently displayed.

    Two weeks ago, I went on a search for things Medieval/Dark Ages/Viking/Weapons/Clothing/Hairs that I might need to add to fill in gaps for a series of renders I was going to work on. It was frustrating to a degree and took a couple days and my wishlist grew. And then, Daz put most of those items into the $3.99 March Madness sale. So it was worth the time for me. But, it would have helped to have an easier search. Also, I was searching on my iMac, using Google Chrome and I was not seeing Required Items. I had to search for that and check to see if I had it or not. And I have Ati's add-on as well.

    But I also in my own files recognize that the Greco-Roman architecture spread across Northern Africa, the Middle East, and up into Europe and England, just as Arabic architecture influenced Spanish, Italian, and later the Southwest United States, Central and South American architechture. Or the Japanese esthetic has influenced the Pacific NorthWest. And Africa is more than mud huts and colonies that went away when I was still in school in the 1960s. There is some vibrant growth there that puts America to shame. 

    And when I saw the word 'Indian' I wasn't sure if you meant South Asian or First Nation Peoples.

     

  • LasciareLasciare Posts: 184

    Categories by region and by period would be nice:

    By region:

    North america

    Central and south america

    Western europe

    Eastern europe and Russia

    Africa

    Australia

    Middle-east

    India

    Asia

    Australia

    Indonesia

    By period:

    Prehistory

    Antiquity

    Middle ages

    Renaissance

    16th and 17th

    18th and 19th

    20th

    21th

    Futuristic

     

     

  • LasciareLasciare Posts: 184

    P.S. Maybe the categories by region should include a universal category...

  • mwokeemwokee Posts: 1,275

    I know I'm going to sound like a smart aleck, but you only need one category: Fantasy. I think the 3D world has been unable to grasp the potential of other applications beyond fantasy. BUSINESS, MANUFACTURING, EDUCATION, INDUSTRY, and much more, especially if greater levels of photo-realism were produced. I can do so many things for business applications in the commercial world and increase the sales of my art and concepts if I had more tools to work with. But the 3D world just can't think beyond elves and skimpware, for the most part.

  • Mustakettu85Mustakettu85 Posts: 2,933

    mwokee said:

    I know I'm going to sound like a smart aleck, but you only need one category: Fantasy. I think the 3D world has been unable to grasp the potential of other applications beyond fantasy. BUSINESS, MANUFACTURING, EDUCATION, INDUSTRY, and much more, especially if greater levels of photo-realism were produced. I can do so many things for business applications in the commercial world and increase the sales of my art and concepts if I had more tools to work with. But the 3D world just can't think beyond elves and skimpware, for the most part.

    You might want to check out TurboSquid or SketchFab. DAZ/Poser is only a small part of the 3D world.
  • watchdog79watchdog79 Posts: 1,026

    Lasciare said:

    Categories by region and by period would be nice:

    By region:

    North america

    Central and south america

    Western europe

    Eastern europe and Russia

    Africa

    Australia

    Middle-east

    India

    Asia

    Australia

    Indonesia

    By period:

    Prehistory

    Antiquity

    Middle ages

    Renaissance

    16th and 17th

    18th and 19th

    20th

    21th

    Futuristic

     

     

    I don't think you can fathom the size of the absolutely massive flamestorm this would ignite...

  • mr clammr clam Posts: 707

    Is that category search in the blue bar new? I'm feeling like an idiot for never noticing it before. It helps ameliorate some of the search problems I've experienced, so glad to see a step in that direction!

  • eric suscheric susch Posts: 135
    edited April 2021

    Daz_Jessica said:

    We're contemplating adding a few more genres to the store and would love your thoughts.  The current genres are Contemporary, Fantasy, Sci-Fi, Toon, Historial, Horror, Eastern, Gothic, Anime, Steampunk/Victorian, Super Heroes, High Seas and Egyptian

    • First, do you find genres helpful and do you use them?
    • Second, would you find it helpful to have the following genres (they may be labeled differently if selected), please let me know which 1 or 2 you would find most helpful:
      • Black Characters & Culture
      • Latin Characters & Culture
      • Indian Characters & Culture
      • LGBTQ Characters & Culture
      • Mediterranean or Ancient Greece
    • Third, any genres we are missing that you'd like to see?

    * Please note, this is a question on genres and store features, not politics.

    1) Yes, I use the genere dropdown all the time though "contemporary" is releatvely useless because it's so vague and there's so much stuff in that category.  

    2) I wouldn't find any of those categories useful.

    3) One of the most serious problems I have with store categorization is that poses and animation are bundled together.  They have nothing to do with each other and it makes finding an animation product imposible among the gazillion pose packs.

    Would also like to see sub-categories for Sci-Fi which I search on a lot.  Most everything these days seems to be Cyberpunk which is great but it's not always what I'm looking for.  There's Retro (30s, 40s, 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s, all different) Space, Alien, Dystopian, Steampunk (which is already separate,) Dieselpunk, Atompunk, Utopian, Robots, etc. 

    Also, why do a million pose packs show up when you filter for SciFi? What's a SciFi pose?  Filtering all those pose packs out would help a lot.

    Post edited by eric susch on
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