dForce Medieval Barmaid for Genesis 8 Female - not medieval

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  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 40,063
    edited December 2020

    Ascania said:



    But to get back to the barmaid. Is it just me or does anyone else thing the promo for that item looks very well like it is just cut out of a 50s film despicting some "quaint European" place?

    it is all shots of Rougey and Strangefate's Red Crow Inn 

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  • PaintboxPaintbox Posts: 1,633


    But to get back to the barmaid. Is it just me or does anyone else thing the promo for that item looks very well like it is just cut out of a 50s film despicting some "quaint European" place?


    I was thinking the outfit was very close to the tavern owner outfit in Falkreath in the game Skyrim. It has a lot of similarities. Let me see if I can screenshot it from the game.

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 40,063
    edited December 2020

    a Nifskope shot of Bar keep clothing

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  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 40,063
    edited December 2020
    meh too hard to embed with edit, forum stuffed
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  • Y'all are worried about the teeth?! ????????

    Look, it's simple. Gabriella 8 doesn't have a messed up teeth texture (almost all 8s don't), so I didn't use a messed up teeth texture ????

  • AscaniaAscania Posts: 1,855

    WendyLuvsCatz said:

    Ascania said:



    But to get back to the barmaid. Is it just me or does anyone else thing the promo for that item looks very well like it is just cut out of a 50s film despicting some "quaint European" place?

    it is all shots of Rougey and Strangefate's Red Crow Inn 

    I'm sorry but that was not what I meant. So please let me be more clear. The colour scheme, the overall tone and the choice of face together give off the old movie vibe.

  • tsaristtsarist Posts: 1,635
    Nice Thread. It looked ok to me and it would probably pass muster with most other people.
  • SevrinSevrin Posts: 6,313
    edited December 2020

    Devon Oreschnick said:

    Y'all are worried about the teeth?! ????????

    Look, it's simple. Gabriella 8 doesn't have a messed up teeth texture (almost all 8s don't), so I didn't use a messed up teeth texture ????

    Suggestion:  All outfits should come with period-appropriate tooth colouring.  If the shoes are too tight, bunion morphs for feet are a must.  If no shoes come with the outfit, there should be those paper slippers like you get at my dentist in the winter.  That dentist offers tooth whitening for an exhorbitant fee, which is not covered by insurance.

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  • Sevrin said:

    Devon Oreschnick said:

    Y'all are worried about the teeth?! ????????

    Look, it's simple. Gabriella 8 doesn't have a messed up teeth texture (almost all 8s don't), so I didn't use a messed up teeth texture ????

    Suggestion:  All outfits should come with period-appropriate tooth colouring.  If the shoes are too tight, bunion morphs for feet are a must.  If no shoes come with the outfit, there should be those paper slippers like you get at my dentist in the winter.  That dentist offers tooth whitening for an exhorbitant fee, which is not covered by insurance.

    I don't make the outfits. I just do the promo work :'D

    And I will NEVER include someone with efes up teeth in my promos :'D :'D

  • cherpenbeckcherpenbeck Posts: 1,416

    Just to entertain you with some facts:

    Medieval times were NOT drab and uncolored. People colored whatever they could afford. We in Europe live with houses dating back to that time, and often these houses were painted in bright colors (ochre-yellow, ochre-red, wood-coal black, chalk white. And there were cheap natural colors for clothing around. Wool was relatively easy to dye, linen not so much, so the linen underwear was mostly bleached white (which you did by putting the wet fabric on a meadow in the sunshine which produces H2O2 which in return bleaches).
    The thing is, even cheap dye costs and lower classes didn't see much coins. They mostly depended on the often worn clothes their employers handed them down, stripped of all adornments. So the fabric was used (and it showed), the colors washed out. And if the employer was relatively poor (like a farmer), there wasn't much color to begin with. Besides peasants and lower classes were often not allowed to wear intensive colors.  So what was left to them was white (natural white wool, bleached linen), black (natural black wool), grey (natural grey wool), brown (natural brown wool) and some shades ob beige- or yellow (dye mad of birch leaves or other easily accessive plants) or rusty red (Mudder root), because these were colors they could aplly themselves.

    Even in those days the poor tried to get al least some colored pieces for effect, because, well, everybody wants to look as good as possible.
    It's just that intensiv, expensive colors existed, but were reserved for the rich and nobility.
    So colors are a clue to the social status. In the farming picture the women with the deep blue dress is the boss, she has the highest social standing of the depicted persons. And they are wearing one-piece dresses over one-piece linen underwear, hold up by a girdle for easier work.
     

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  • Peter WadePeter Wade Posts: 1,666

    cherpenbeck said:

    Just to entertain you with some facts:

    Medieval times were NOT drab and uncolored. People colored whatever they could afford. We in Europe live with houses dating back to that time, and often these houses were painted in bright colors (ochre-yellow, ochre-red, wood-coal black, chalk white. And there were cheap natural colors for clothing around. Wool was relatively easy to dye, linen not so much, so the linen underwear was mostly bleached white (which you did by putting the wet fabric on a meadow in the sunshine which produces H2O2 which in return bleaches).
    The thing is, even cheap dye costs and lower classes didn't see much coins. They mostly depended on the often worn clothes their employers handed them down, stripped of all adornments. So the fabric was used (and it showed), the colors washed out. And if the employer was relatively poor (like a farmer), there wasn't much color to begin with. Besides peasants and lower classes were often not allowed to wear intensive colors.  So what was left to them was white (natural white wool, bleached linen), black (natural black wool), grey (natural grey wool), brown (natural brown wool) and some shades ob beige- or yellow (dye mad of birch leaves or other easily accessive plants) or rusty red (Mudder root), because these were colors they could aplly themselves.

    Even in those days the poor tried to get al least some colored pieces for effect, because, well, everybody wants to look as good as possible.
    It's just that intensiv, expensive colors existed, but were reserved for the rich and nobility.
    So colors are a clue to the social status. In the farming picture the women with the deep blue dress is the boss, she has the highest social standing of the depicted persons. And they are wearing one-piece dresses over one-piece linen underwear, hold up by a girdle for easier work.
     

    She's the boss but she's in there with a pitchfork. Is she posing for a publicity painting to show how mangement values the workforce and joins in before going back to her office with a large cappuchino (if they had coffee back then) ?

     

  • SevrinSevrin Posts: 6,313

    Lots of items on the Daz store are poorly named.  There are corsets that aren't corsets, bustiers that aren't bustiers, bikinis that are one-piece swimsuits, etc.   Stuff needs to have a unique name that English-speakers will understand.  PAs, many of whom are not native English-speakers are 3D artists, not linguists or historians, and there's no certificate of authenticity attached to any products, and Daz doesn't care what you call it, as long as it doesn't include the word "Lolita".

     

  • ainukeainuke Posts: 85
    edited December 2020

    j cade said:

    I am sure in medieval times people were not as pretty as they are on book covers either. Cant really see them hitting the gym for perfectly sculpted muscles and lack of oral hygeine would make for some gnarly teeth, and lets face it, washing may not have been a daily occurance either.

    So maybe a pretty dress is not the biggest worry in accuracy LOL

     

    Apparently teeth weren't necesarily that bad - less oral hygeine was offset by a much less sugary diet

     

    While they didn't have sugary foods, the grains they ate came from millstones that introduced a lot of abrasive into the meal/flour. 

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  • j cadej cade Posts: 2,310
    Sevrin said:

    Lots of items on the Daz store are poorly named.  There are corsets that aren't corsets, bustiers that aren't bustiers, bikinis that are one-piece swimsuits, etc.   Stuff needs to have a unique name that English-speakers will understand.  PAs, many of whom are not native English-speakers are 3D artists, not linguists or historians, and there's no certificate of authenticity attached to any products, and Daz doesn't care what you call it, as long as it doesn't include the word "Lolita".

     

    +1000 I love meticulously exact historical stuff. I enjoy a bit of nitpicking, especially when something is touted as "realistic" (oh you think GOT is grounded? Look at all the not farms surrounding the cities everyone should have starved to death) but I don't personally find it worth the effort of getting actually upset, and unless something *specifically* claims accuracy, complaining about inaccuracies is a bit silly.

     

    I mean do you go to your local Renn Faire and get annoyed that not all the costumes are strictly Renaissance? Or you get food that has tomatoes in it?
  • cclesuecclesue Posts: 420

    Well if it exposed more bosum we could say it is mid-evil.

  • mwokeemwokee Posts: 1,275
    RawArt said:

    As a PA we make stuff to look good in renders.....DAZ is no were close to a historical society

     

    I'll take photo-realism quality over historical accuracy. Not all of us want cartoon-ish renders.
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