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  • Patrick TynerPatrick Tyner Posts: 640
    melissastjames said:
    markgoode77 said:
    xyer0 said:

    "Choose 1 of the following for FREE" explicitly denotes a choice from a selection. (Then they listed the set from which the selection would be made). I forgot English is not Daz's first language.

    I just added one G8 bundle.  Does this mean I lost out on 2 G3 and 3 G2 Pro bundles simply because Daz can't write?  Jeeez...

    I've made that mistake before...submit a ticket and they should help you out. 

    I can confirm...purchased Ashan 8 Pro Bundle, three add-ons...and got one G8 Pro Bundle, two G3 Pro Bundles, and 3 G2 Pro Bundles all for ~$39 (with purple banner). 

    For some reason all 6 bundles are $74.22 each for me.
  • Patrick TynerPatrick Tyner Posts: 640
    Chohole said:
    markgoode77 said:
    xyer0 said:

    "Choose 1 of the following for FREE" explicitly denotes a choice from a selection. (Then they listed the set from which the selection would be made). I forgot English is not Daz's first language.

    I bought the pro bundle and at least 3 add ons, then I just added one G8 bundle.  Does this mean I lost out on 2 G3 and 3 G2 Pro bundles simply because Daz can't write?  Jeeez...

    no you intepreted it correctly.  And the offer is now working correctly

    Which way dies this mean it is supposed to work for the included past bundles?
  • MelanieLMelanieL Posts: 7,740
    Patrick Tyner said:
    Chohole said:
    markgoode77 said:
    xyer0 said:

    "Choose 1 of the following for FREE" explicitly denotes a choice from a selection. (Then they listed the set from which the selection would be made). I forgot English is not Daz's first language.

    I bought the pro bundle and at least 3 add ons, then I just added one G8 bundle.  Does this mean I lost out on 2 G3 and 3 G2 Pro bundles simply because Daz can't write?  Jeeez...

    no you intepreted it correctly.  And the offer is now working correctly

     

    Which way dies this mean it is supposed to work for the included past bundles?

    It means you can choose EITHER one G8 Pro Bundle OR two G3 bundles OR three G2 bundles (but not any cross-generation combination of them).

  • Patrick TynerPatrick Tyner Posts: 640
    melissastjames said:

    Can't say I've ever seen an incentive that gives away SIX pro bundles for buying one...so when I tried it early this morning after seeing the initial comments in this thread, I knew it had to be a mistake. I'd be bummed if I missed it too...but it was quite clearly a mistake. No reason to get bent out of shape at Daz for fixing their mistake. Now if the ad had actually said "and" instead of "or" and then they didn't honor it, then yeah. 

    I have seen some of the sales when there were several free pro packs from Previous generations possibly 3 or 4, I don't remember and don't want to go through my past purchases to figure it out. Yes it's disappointing when you get a cart ready as you are working out the financial part only to come back and it's changed on you. In the past, I have benefited from their mistakes and they honored it, other times they have not. It dies take the wind out if your sails when the tides change midstream
  • Patrick TynerPatrick Tyner Posts: 640
    MelanieL said:
    Patrick Tyner said:
    Chohole said:
    markgoode77 said:
    xyer0 said:

    "Choose 1 of the following for FREE" explicitly denotes a choice from a selection. (Then they listed the set from which the selection would be made). I forgot English is not Daz's first language.

    I bought the pro bundle and at least 3 add ons, then I just added one G8 bundle.  Does this mean I lost out on 2 G3 and 3 G2 Pro bundles simply because Daz can't write?  Jeeez...

    no you intepreted it correctly.  And the offer is now working correctly

     

    Which way dies this mean it is supposed to work for the included past bundles?

    It means you can choose EITHER one G8 Pro Bundle OR two G3 bundles OR three G2 bundles (but not any cross-generation combination of them).

    Thank you for the clarification since my cart registered one way and I cam back later when I knew I had the money and it had since changed.
  • watchdog79watchdog79 Posts: 1,026

    I like Ashan. I think he is going to become a desert warrior in my scenes.smiley

    I made a quick and simple scene with him. It still needs some more work to be fully presentable in my gallery, though.

    Oh, come on Lizzy! 

    - We need to hide from the coming sandstorm...

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  • 3Diva3Diva Posts: 11,981
    edited June 2020
    mmkdaz said:

    I may be overreacting, and reality will set in a week or two, but right now, this is easily my favorite daz/poser product. Skin is just a littttttlle pale, but on the otherhand that means very customizable. Daz has always led in morphs and design, but they've outdone themselves. Very much up there with Olympia7, V8, Darius 6/7/8 and Monique, M7 and Lee of course. (Edit - had to keep adding characters I like)

     

    This looks great! What skin settings are you using here? Or is that "out of the box" and just the lighting/render settings making it look so detailed?

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  • ArtiniArtini Posts: 10,342
    edited June 2020

    Ashan 8 looks great and it is a lot of fun creating environment for him in UltraScenery...

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  • mmkdazmmkdaz Posts: 335

    Hello @divamakeup , you know we've been working on skin settings for a long, long time! Feels like at least 5yrs, maybe more like 10. Yes skin settings are custom. I favor dryer looking, more oily skin and faster renders, so: No SSS maps. Translucenly weight at 0.5, Transluceny color White with Diffuse map. No Dual Lobe. Glossy layered weight 1 with Specular map. Glossy color white. Glossy roughness between .3 and .5. Refraction between 1.33 and 1.5. Bump at 3.0, Normal at 1. No top coat.

  • 3Diva3Diva Posts: 11,981
    mmkdaz said:

    Hello @divamakeup , you know we've been working on skin settings for a long, long time! Feels like at least 5yrs, maybe more like 10. Yes skin settings are custom. I favor dryer looking, more oily skin and faster renders, so: No SSS maps. Translucenly weight at 0.5, Transluceny color White with Diffuse map. No Dual Lobe. Glossy layered weight 1 with Specular map. Glossy color white. Glossy roughness between .3 and .5. Refraction between 1.33 and 1.5. Bump at 3.0, Normal at 1. No top coat.

    Ah Very Cool! :D And yeah, skin is definitely it's own "science" in 3D work. heheh 

  • MelissaGTMelissaGT Posts: 2,611
    edited June 2020

    Here is my first test - 

    I did swap in Abasi's eyes and brows as Ashan's are...pretty awful. In addition, I blended in Owen's specularity map for the body and part of the face as Owen's has much better detail. Ashan's seem rather low rez if viewed in Photoshop at 100%. I also did my personal tweak to his SSS maps. His body morph was moved down to 50% as he's entirely too buff. 

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  • RenderScot3DRenderScot3D Posts: 167
    edited June 2020

    Any idea of the hair on the Abasi character https://www.daz3d.com/abasi-hd-for-ashan-8 ( the mohawk in promo 1 and 2) dont think its  Dolb as too smooth  any ideas ?

     

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  • jaxprogjaxprog Posts: 312

    I must say: Daz has out done themselves. I know its pure opinioin, but I think Ashan is the best Genesis 8 male to date. He's pure mascline and strong. He doesn't look like beta or a cuck. The new product deals for loyal customers was absolutely awesome on this release. Definitely a buy for me today.

  • WonderlandWonderland Posts: 7,137
    edited June 2020

    Love him! heart
     

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  • Lee MoonLee Moon Posts: 926
    edited June 2020

    Here's my test render of Ashan, but using the Ytar texture for skin and eyes, Abasi beard and brows, and Baby Locks hair.  Pose is one of Underbelly's.  Also used Auto Muscle Enhancer set to a minimum level, but with AME Veins set to a moderate level.  Did a few minor tweaks to ear lobes and eyes.  Ran the render through Photoshop for contrast/color enhancement and cropping.

    I like this character quite a lot.

    Lee

     

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  • Lee MoonLee Moon Posts: 926
    edited June 2020

    Double posted - whoops!

    Lee

     

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  • RenderScot3DRenderScot3D Posts: 167
    leemoon_c43b45a114 said:

    Here's my test render of Ashan, but using the Ytar texture for skin and eyes, Abasi beard and brows, and Baby Locks hair.  Pose is one of Underbelly's.  Also used Auto Muscle Enhancer set to a minimum level, but with AME Veins set to a moderate level.  Did a few minor tweaks to ear lobes and eyes.  Ran the render through Photoshop for contrast/color enhancement and cropping.

    I like this character quite a lot.

    Lee

     

    Brill render  can i ask what lights you used  ?  amazing realism :)

  • Lee MoonLee Moon Posts: 926
    RenderScot said:
    leemoon_c43b45a114 said:

    Here's my test render of Ashan, but using the Ytar texture for skin and eyes, Abasi beard and brows, and Baby Locks hair.  Pose is one of Underbelly's.  Also used Auto Muscle Enhancer set to a minimum level, but with AME Veins set to a moderate level.  Did a few minor tweaks to ear lobes and eyes.  Ran the render through Photoshop for contrast/color enhancement and cropping.

    I like this character quite a lot.

    Lee

     

    Brill render  can i ask what lights you used  ?  amazing realism :)

    Thank you, RenderScot!

    The lighting I used was from Fast Production Lights for Iray, but probably tweaked a little bit.  My render settings say the environment was the FPL004Mono HDRI map.  I can't recall what intensity and tone mapping presets I started with.  The Fast Production Lights for Iray product is an awesome addition to my rendering workflow.

    https://www.daz3d.com/fast-production-lights-for-iray

    Lee

  • RenderScot3DRenderScot3D Posts: 167
    leemoon_c43b45a114 said:
    RenderScot said:
    leemoon_c43b45a114 said:

    Here's my test render of Ashan, but using the Ytar texture for skin and eyes, Abasi beard and brows, and Baby Locks hair.  Pose is one of Underbelly's.  Also used Auto Muscle Enhancer set to a minimum level, but with AME Veins set to a moderate level.  Did a few minor tweaks to ear lobes and eyes.  Ran the render through Photoshop for contrast/color enhancement and cropping.

    I like this character quite a lot.

    Lee

     

    Brill render  can i ask what lights you used  ?  amazing realism :)

    Thank you, RenderScot!

    The lighting I used was from Fast Production Lights for Iray, but probably tweaked a little bit.  My render settings say the environment was the FPL004Mono HDRI map.  I can't recall what intensity and tone mapping presets I started with.  The Fast Production Lights for Iray product is an awesome addition to my rendering workflow.

    https://www.daz3d.com/fast-production-lights-for-iray

    Lee

    awww brilliant  have those lights  but never got as good  a result lol   kudos to you :) 

  • Lee MoonLee Moon Posts: 926
    RenderScot said:
    leemoon_c43b45a114 said:
    RenderScot said:
    leemoon_c43b45a114 said:

    Here's my test render of Ashan, but using the Ytar texture for skin and eyes, Abasi beard and brows, and Baby Locks hair.  Pose is one of Underbelly's.  Also used Auto Muscle Enhancer set to a minimum level, but with AME Veins set to a moderate level.  Did a few minor tweaks to ear lobes and eyes.  Ran the render through Photoshop for contrast/color enhancement and cropping.

    I like this character quite a lot.

    Lee

     

    Brill render  can i ask what lights you used  ?  amazing realism :)

    Thank you, RenderScot!

    The lighting I used was from Fast Production Lights for Iray, but probably tweaked a little bit.  My render settings say the environment was the FPL004Mono HDRI map.  I can't recall what intensity and tone mapping presets I started with.  The Fast Production Lights for Iray product is an awesome addition to my rendering workflow.

    https://www.daz3d.com/fast-production-lights-for-iray

    Lee

    awww brilliant  have those lights  but never got as good  a result lol   kudos to you :) 

    Thank you again, RenderScot!  You are too kind. :)  I'm still learning DAZ Studio after being a Poser user for 25 years.  Having lots of fun trying out new things and really enjoy the Genesis series of figures.

    Lee

  • xyer0xyer0 Posts: 6,347
    leemoon_c43b45a114 said:
    RenderScot said:
    leemoon_c43b45a114 said:
    RenderScot said:
    leemoon_c43b45a114 said:

    Here's my test render of Ashan, but using the Ytar texture for skin and eyes, Abasi beard and brows, and Baby Locks hair.  Pose is one of Underbelly's.  Also used Auto Muscle Enhancer set to a minimum level, but with AME Veins set to a moderate level.  Did a few minor tweaks to ear lobes and eyes.  Ran the render through Photoshop for contrast/color enhancement and cropping.

    I like this character quite a lot.

    Lee

     

    Brill render  can i ask what lights you used  ?  amazing realism :)

    Thank you, RenderScot!

    The lighting I used was from Fast Production Lights for Iray, but probably tweaked a little bit.  My render settings say the environment was the FPL004Mono HDRI map.  I can't recall what intensity and tone mapping presets I started with.  The Fast Production Lights for Iray product is an awesome addition to my rendering workflow.

    https://www.daz3d.com/fast-production-lights-for-iray

    Lee

    awww brilliant  have those lights  but never got as good  a result lol   kudos to you :) 

    Thank you again, RenderScot!  You are too kind. :)  I'm still learning DAZ Studio after being a Poser user for 25 years.  Having lots of fun trying out new things and really enjoy the Genesis series of figures.

    Lee

    Welcome to Daztopia, Lee! I bought Poser Pro 11 on sale when Bondware acquired it, but I haven't really figured it out. It has come in handy for importing fbx files to Daz (Daz' fbx import doesn't work properly).

  • Serene NightSerene Night Posts: 17,704
    edited June 2020

    Ytar for Ashan is so far my favorite shape and skin tone. I'd probably add some HD to him, but this wasn't included so I left it out. He's wearing Action Hero Hair. 

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  • Serene NightSerene Night Posts: 17,704
    edited June 2020

    Abasi has a hot body... And  a very highly defined wrinkled face, which seems incongruous ous to me. But, that body is amazing. He's wearing Ceejay Hair.   If I had my druthers, I'd probably de-age him a little in the head region. He comes with body and beard hair options. 

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  • RedzRedz Posts: 1,459
    RenderScot said:

    Any idea of the hair on the Abasi character https://www.daz3d.com/abasi-hd-for-ashan-8 ( the mohawk in promo 1 and 2) dont think its  Dolb as too smooth  any ideas ?

     

    It's a 'coming soon' hair called Sitric hair. Apologies, I thought it would be in the store before Ashan 8. 

  • RedzRedz Posts: 1,459
    Serene Night said:

    Abasi has a hot body... And  a very highly defined wrinkled face, which seems incongruous ous to me. But, that body is amazing. He's wearing Ceejay Hair.   If I had my druthers, I'd probably de-age him a little in the head region. He comes with body and beard hair options. 

    Hi Serene. It's always a compromise with a HD character as opposed to an add-on. He comes with both normal maps and HD details to cater to those who prefer to be able to use the character at lower res and also those who prefer HD.

    If you up the subd levels, I'd suggest dialling back the normal maps, as the effects start to double up. G8's face UV maps are also larger than the body, so this doubling up of detail tends to be most apparent in the face. :) 

  • davesodaveso Posts: 7,839
    Redz said:
    Serene Night said:

    Abasi has a hot body... And  a very highly defined wrinkled face, which seems incongruous ous to me. But, that body is amazing. He's wearing Ceejay Hair.   If I had my druthers, I'd probably de-age him a little in the head region. He comes with body and beard hair options. 

    Hi Serene. It's always a compromise with a HD character as opposed to an add-on. He comes with both normal maps and HD details to cater to those who prefer to be able to use the character at lower res and also those who prefer HD.

    If you up the subd levels, I'd suggest dialling back the normal maps, as the effects start to double up. G8's face UV maps are also larger than the body, so this doubling up of detail tends to be most apparent in the face. :) 

    so are you saying the HD add is not really necessary to achiev the great HD look?

  • RedzRedz Posts: 1,459
    daveso said:
    Redz said:
    Serene Night said:

    Abasi has a hot body... And  a very highly defined wrinkled face, which seems incongruous ous to me. But, that body is amazing. He's wearing Ceejay Hair.   If I had my druthers, I'd probably de-age him a little in the head region. He comes with body and beard hair options. 

    Hi Serene. It's always a compromise with a HD character as opposed to an add-on. He comes with both normal maps and HD details to cater to those who prefer to be able to use the character at lower res and also those who prefer HD.

    If you up the subd levels, I'd suggest dialling back the normal maps, as the effects start to double up. G8's face UV maps are also larger than the body, so this doubling up of detail tends to be most apparent in the face. :) 

    so are you saying the HD add is not really necessary to achiev the great HD look?

    The normal maps mimic the HD features. They will never fully match the quality of high res detail for close-up rendering IMO. But if it's a big scene and the character isn't close-up in camera, subd level 1 with normal maps is perfectly adequate. I wouldn't dial out the HD detailing even at lower resolution though. It still adds some details. Also some softer lighting doesn't show the skin details well, so sometimes having the option of both HD and normal maps is desirable. 

  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,762
    edited June 2020
    Redz said:
    daveso said:
    Redz said:
    Serene Night said:

    Abasi has a hot body... And  a very highly defined wrinkled face, which seems incongruous ous to me. But, that body is amazing. He's wearing Ceejay Hair.   If I had my druthers, I'd probably de-age him a little in the head region. He comes with body and beard hair options. 

    Hi Serene. It's always a compromise with a HD character as opposed to an add-on. He comes with both normal maps and HD details to cater to those who prefer to be able to use the character at lower res and also those who prefer HD.

    If you up the subd levels, I'd suggest dialling back the normal maps, as the effects start to double up. G8's face UV maps are also larger than the body, so this doubling up of detail tends to be most apparent in the face. :) 

    so are you saying the HD add is not really necessary to achiev the great HD look?

    The normal maps mimic the HD features. They will never fully match the quality of high res detail for close-up rendering IMO. But if it's a big scene and the character isn't close-up in camera, subd level 1 with normal maps is perfectly adequate. I wouldn't dial out the HD detailing even at lower resolution though. It still adds some details. Also some softer lighting doesn't show the skin details well, so sometimes having the option of both HD and normal maps is desirable. 

    Why do they have the HD then? Is that for folk that buy interactive licenses so they can export the HD version to their game engines? The HD is going to slow down the viewport while the normal won't (unless you do iRay preview).

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  • XtraDimensionalXtraDimensional Posts: 509
    nonesuch00 said:

    Why do they have the HD then? Is that for folk that buy interactive licenses so they can export the HD version to their game engines? The HD is going to slow down the viewport while the normal won't (unmless you do iRay preview).

    'Cause sometimes I wanna use the normal maps from one character, but I still want lip definition of one of the HD morphs, or whatever.

  • RedzRedz Posts: 1,459
    nonesuch00 said:
    Redz said:
    daveso said:
    Redz said:
    Serene Night said:

    Abasi has a hot body... And  a very highly defined wrinkled face, which seems incongruous ous to me. But, that body is amazing. He's wearing Ceejay Hair.   If I had my druthers, I'd probably de-age him a little in the head region. He comes with body and beard hair options. 

    Hi Serene. It's always a compromise with a HD character as opposed to an add-on. He comes with both normal maps and HD details to cater to those who prefer to be able to use the character at lower res and also those who prefer HD.

    If you up the subd levels, I'd suggest dialling back the normal maps, as the effects start to double up. G8's face UV maps are also larger than the body, so this doubling up of detail tends to be most apparent in the face. :) 

    so are you saying the HD add is not really necessary to achiev the great HD look?

    The normal maps mimic the HD features. They will never fully match the quality of high res detail for close-up rendering IMO. But if it's a big scene and the character isn't close-up in camera, subd level 1 with normal maps is perfectly adequate. I wouldn't dial out the HD detailing even at lower resolution though. It still adds some details. Also some softer lighting doesn't show the skin details well, so sometimes having the option of both HD and normal maps is desirable. 

    Why do they have the HD then? Is that for folk that buy interactive licenses so they can export the HD version to their game engines? The HD is going to slow down the viewport while the normal won't (unmless you do iRay preview).

    Usually the opposite I believe. For animated gaming, low poly with normal maps is desirable. For still portrait rendering, HD will always give better quality. As to the viewport, you can easily control the subd for both viewport and render in the parameters tab, so the HD morphs need not slow down anything, except the actual render, at higher than 1 subdivision. 

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