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  • WonderlandWonderland Posts: 7,137
    edited May 2020

    Stopped the render early to give it a slightly more painterly look. Changes to the body and just some small alterations to the face, larger iris, longer lashes, some plumping of lips.

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  • GordigGordig Posts: 10,613
  • ArtiniArtini Posts: 10,346
    Artini said:

    Would like to recreate the look from the promo:

    Does anybody know what hair is used there?

    It is not included in the Pro bundle.

     

    Short Classy Hair, I think.

    Thanks and I have already purchased that hair.

     

  • ArtiniArtini Posts: 10,346
    edited May 2020

    Sahira 8 and Valentino 8

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  • PaintboxPaintbox Posts: 1,633
    Artini said:

    Sahira 8 and Valentino 8

    They look really happy together :)

     

  • j cade said:

    I think it's funny when I hear people talk about clothing being "practical" especially when it comes to sci-fi and fantasy clothes. I don't see people nitpicking over sci-fi sets arguing that a monitor placement is not practical. Or if you really want to see impractical clothing, actually try on historical clothes. When I was an extra in movies, I had to wear a hoop skirt with actual bloomers and a whole lot of miscellaneous odd clothing underneath which made it literally impossible to go to the bathroom. I honestly don't know how they went to the bathroom back then, did someone hold up their skirt? Try going in a modern stall with that thing! The point is, until recently, when a fashion statement means a hoodie and jeans, fashion was not meant to be practical and may not be in the future. 

    It depends on the era, but generally they just stood over a pot. Technically it was more efficient than now, you didnt  have to take anything off. A lot of history womens indergarmets were a shift, you dont get drawers until the Victorian era really and many of those were "open" which is a polite way of saying crotchless

     

    edit now with art!

     

    historical efficency!

    That's not a hoop skirt. Hoop skirts are HUGE and have metal spring-like thing inside. It's more like wearing an open umbrella that can spring up inside out. And on top of that you have a ridiculously tight corset that you can hardly breathe in. No wonder so many women had heaving bosoms and fainted a lot back then. But the hoop skirt is just really awkward. I felt like I Love Lucy in one of her slapstick routines trying to manipulate that thing in a bathroom stall. The one I had was a lot wider than the one in the photo too! 
     

    I'm sorry they dressed you uncomfortably. Real historical people were not uncomfortable in their clothes, just like reenactors are not uncomfortable in their clothes. Those hoop skirts are rigid (and that only if metal was used, most hoops used rope or whalebone, historically) only in the x and Z. You can tug them up and they collapse like a slinky. I did a lot of civil war reenacting when I was younger. I wouldn't have if I couldn't breathe or move in the clothed, I assure you. I'm kind of a princess about being able to breathe. Surest way to trigger a panic attack! That said, a pair of split drawers, and I could even get a wide civil war dress into a modern bathroom stall with only a little wrangling.
  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,763
    Hanabi said:
    j cade said:

    I think it's funny when I hear people talk about clothing being "practical" especially when it comes to sci-fi and fantasy clothes. I don't see people nitpicking over sci-fi sets arguing that a monitor placement is not practical. Or if you really want to see impractical clothing, actually try on historical clothes. When I was an extra in movies, I had to wear a hoop skirt with actual bloomers and a whole lot of miscellaneous odd clothing underneath which made it literally impossible to go to the bathroom. I honestly don't know how they went to the bathroom back then, did someone hold up their skirt? Try going in a modern stall with that thing! The point is, until recently, when a fashion statement means a hoodie and jeans, fashion was not meant to be practical and may not be in the future. 

    It depends on the era, but generally they just stood over a pot. Technically it was more efficient than now, you didnt  have to take anything off. A lot of history womens indergarmets were a shift, you dont get drawers until the Victorian era really and many of those were "open" which is a polite way of saying crotchless

     

    edit now with art!

     

    historical efficency!

    That's not a hoop skirt. Hoop skirts are HUGE and have metal spring-like thing inside. It's more like wearing an open umbrella that can spring up inside out. And on top of that you have a ridiculously tight corset that you can hardly breathe in. No wonder so many women had heaving bosoms and fainted a lot back then. But the hoop skirt is just really awkward. I felt like I Love Lucy in one of her slapstick routines trying to manipulate that thing in a bathroom stall. The one I had was a lot wider than the one in the photo too! 
     

     

    I'm sorry they dressed you uncomfortably. Real historical people were not uncomfortable in their clothes, just like reenactors are not uncomfortable in their clothes. Those hoop skirts are rigid (and that only if metal was used, most hoops used rope or whalebone, historically) only in the x and Z. You can tug them up and they collapse like a slinky. I did a lot of civil war reenacting when I was younger. I wouldn't have if I couldn't breathe or move in the clothed, I assure you. I'm kind of a princess about being able to breathe. Surest way to trigger a panic attack! That said, a pair of split drawers, and I could even get a wide civil war dress into a modern bathroom stall with only a little wrangling.

    I never thought about it before but those dresses look designed to enforce social distancing. Having known as a boy some old fashioned southern belle ladies as teachers in Georgia although they didn't still dress like that they were very demure, polite, and socially distanced in public and that accent! Cut through butter.

  • ArtiniArtini Posts: 10,346

    Thanks a lot, Paintbox.

     

  • WonderlandWonderland Posts: 7,137
    Hanabi said:
    j cade said:

    I think it's funny when I hear people talk about clothing being "practical" especially when it comes to sci-fi and fantasy clothes. I don't see people nitpicking over sci-fi sets arguing that a monitor placement is not practical. Or if you really want to see impractical clothing, actually try on historical clothes. When I was an extra in movies, I had to wear a hoop skirt with actual bloomers and a whole lot of miscellaneous odd clothing underneath which made it literally impossible to go to the bathroom. I honestly don't know how they went to the bathroom back then, did someone hold up their skirt? Try going in a modern stall with that thing! The point is, until recently, when a fashion statement means a hoodie and jeans, fashion was not meant to be practical and may not be in the future. 

    It depends on the era, but generally they just stood over a pot. Technically it was more efficient than now, you didnt  have to take anything off. A lot of history womens indergarmets were a shift, you dont get drawers until the Victorian era really and many of those were "open" which is a polite way of saying crotchless

     

    edit now with art!

     

    historical efficency!

    That's not a hoop skirt. Hoop skirts are HUGE and have metal spring-like thing inside. It's more like wearing an open umbrella that can spring up inside out. And on top of that you have a ridiculously tight corset that you can hardly breathe in. No wonder so many women had heaving bosoms and fainted a lot back then. But the hoop skirt is just really awkward. I felt like I Love Lucy in one of her slapstick routines trying to manipulate that thing in a bathroom stall. The one I had was a lot wider than the one in the photo too! 
     

     

    I'm sorry they dressed you uncomfortably. Real historical people were not uncomfortable in their clothes, just like reenactors are not uncomfortable in their clothes. Those hoop skirts are rigid (and that only if metal was used, most hoops used rope or whalebone, historically) only in the x and Z. You can tug them up and they collapse like a slinky. I did a lot of civil war reenacting when I was younger. I wouldn't have if I couldn't breathe or move in the clothed, I assure you. I'm kind of a princess about being able to breathe. Surest way to trigger a panic attack! That said, a pair of split drawers, and I could even get a wide civil war dress into a modern bathroom stall with only a little wrangling.

    The one I had was like a combination of a slinky and an umbrella and when trying to use the toilet it kept popping up, turning upside down over my head, doing all sorts of crazy things. It was so comical, I couldn't help laughing and giggling uncontrollably and felt like it should have been a scene in "I Love Lucy"! And ironically I was an extra PLAYING an EXTRA, walking around in historical wardrobe on a movie lot in modern times. I had to wear uncomfortable supposedly period shoes that you couldn't see while we were shooting but when not on camera, put on sneakers. I asked the wardrobe person why, since I was playing a modern extra, I couldn't keep the sneakers on, since that's what all the real extras were doing. She said we had to wear the period shoes hidden under the dress. Made no sense...

  • DisparateDreamerDisparateDreamer Posts: 2,520

    i did civil war re-enacting and also renaissance dress, and I can't say any of it was comfortable. Women often died because they didn't breath properly, or a fire started and oops, those massive skirts were great for spreading fires, not so much for helping.... and people passing out from heat, too much clothing, corsets too tight, injuries and body changes from long term wearing... that's all true. no way a boned corset will ever be comfortable for bending and doing anything other than standing around, walking stiffly to not move the spine, and looking pinched. Not for climbing trees, working in the garden, so on. And getting used to the hoops... it's like a dance, constantly, to balance the sway of hoops, and its worse when it's wet (rainy weather). More than happy to keep the corsets to 3d only ;)

     

  • ArtiniArtini Posts: 10,346
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  • ArtiniArtini Posts: 10,346
    edited May 2020

    It might work...

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  • Hi,

    Does anyone know which hair is being used in this promo?

  • tsaristtsarist Posts: 1,638
    In the interests of NOT having this thread locked...

    Has anyone tried the wonderful items in the Skull Island Bundle?

    Essmi is really killing it isn't she?

    I like when Daz follows up a Pro Bundle with a mini bundle that complements the original bundle. Especially, if they offer a discount or keeps the price low enough.

    Good work Daz!
  • PsychoNautPsychoNaut Posts: 63

    Completely gorgeous...  The Genesis 8 DAZ characters are magnificent

  • deepred6502deepred6502 Posts: 393
    tsarist said:
    In the interests of NOT having this thread locked...

     

    Has anyone tried the wonderful items in the Skull Island Bundle?

     

    Essmi is really killing it isn't she?

     

    I like when Daz follows up a Pro Bundle with a mini bundle that complements the original bundle. Especially, if they offer a discount or keeps the price low enough.

     

    Good work Daz!

    It's in my cart as I type, and if anything it looks a far better investment than the original Sahira 8 bundles. I'm using the honorary PC+ gift card offer for further discounts.

  • MalandarMalandar Posts: 776
    j cade said:
    Malandar said:
    j cade said:

    Wheee  a render with a background!

     

    Also I 100% channeled the cover of the copy of the True Confessions of Charlotte Doyle I had in middleschool without realizing it.

     

     

     

    Nice render, where did that shirt come from? lol, not sure I have ever seen it before.

     

    j cade said:

    Wheee  a render with a background!

     

    Also I 100% channeled the cover of the copy of the True Confessions of Charlotte Doyle I had in middleschool without realizing it.

     

     

     

    This render is great.  I love the serious expression.  I really get the feeling that she is outside on a ship.  The outfit is also nice @j cade, what is she wearing?  Is it from a male's wardrobe?

    The outfit is Contemporary Romeo converted and dforced and with some alternate textures. It dforces pretty well, you just have to use a weight node to keep the area around the belt and laces steady (you could probably get away with just dforcing the sleeves if you're not into weight painting)

    Funny thing is I have that outfit, I just forget that I bought things now and then (more often these days)

  • markusmaternmarkusmatern Posts: 601
    edited June 2020

    I really do like her skin! Here's an example: (Click the image to view it in the gallery and in full resolution)

    Sahira Sunbathing Portrait

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  • nicsttnicstt Posts: 11,715

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    Wolfwood said:

    I think it's funny when I hear people talk about clothing being "practical" especially when it comes to sci-fi and fantasy clothes. I don't see people nitpicking over sci-fi sets arguing that a monitor placement is not practical.

    In my case at least, It's not simply about being practical, is about being functional. Like how would someone go out to space with this? https://www.daz3d.com/andromeda-sci-fi-outfit-for-genesis-8-female-s

    I do love (and need) sexy outfits, but i hate non functional. I'm trying to tell stories so I can't use a space outfit with an open chest; the moment you have bare skin exposed in space as if it were a walk in a park everything goes to shi*. That is supose to be an space suit but at best is an extravagant biker "clothe thing".....i was going to say armor, but with the open chest it cannot be even that.

    Another example, this one is clearly more pinup tho: https://www.daz3d.com/dark-space-outfit-and-weapons-for-genesis-8-females

    Why can't that outfit have complete lower part matching? I mean, as an option. Is just so good looking, but it can only work as pinup. WHY????? It's a waste it can't be both (at least out of the box). If you are trying to tell a story, and you want it spicy, a sexy but functional outfit is better than only sexy or only functional. Even if it is a sexy comedy, that outfit will not work the moment a character needs to actually be out in space.

    BTW, Is Midnight Stories the only PA with the clear understanding of the purpose of the outfits making proper working Space suites and armors for males and females? I guess Yura has a couple too, but several times not for M/F.

    From Sahira bundle (that i like in general and i'm going to buy today) the Sparrow outfit i find really odd. It's fantasy (or even sci-fi). But fantasy does no equal Pinup..... so why on ANY EARTH does it has High Heels??? It remided me of my disgust with recent icecream parlor, a perfectly functional scenario but with a waitress oufit and poses with high heels. Poor waitress. Yes, i know that is easy fixable with a different footwear and some pose correction, but it should not need fixing. Even more recent, the same thing by the same authors with the School bundle, they created an amazing scenario with multiple functional full rooms (not vignetes) and decided to pair it with another pinup waiter outfit......well at least it seems they also added functional gym clothes this time.

     

    Don't get me started on the high-heels rants I'm so fond of; actually I just live a good rant.

  • deepred6502deepred6502 Posts: 393
    nicstt said:

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    Wolfwood said:

    I think it's funny when I hear people talk about clothing being "practical" especially when it comes to sci-fi and fantasy clothes. I don't see people nitpicking over sci-fi sets arguing that a monitor placement is not practical.

    In my case at least, It's not simply about being practical, is about being functional. Like how would someone go out to space with this? https://www.daz3d.com/andromeda-sci-fi-outfit-for-genesis-8-female-s

    I do love (and need) sexy outfits, but i hate non functional. I'm trying to tell stories so I can't use a space outfit with an open chest; the moment you have bare skin exposed in space as if it were a walk in a park everything goes to shi*. That is supose to be an space suit but at best is an extravagant biker "clothe thing".....i was going to say armor, but with the open chest it cannot be even that.

    Another example, this one is clearly more pinup tho: https://www.daz3d.com/dark-space-outfit-and-weapons-for-genesis-8-females

    Why can't that outfit have complete lower part matching? I mean, as an option. Is just so good looking, but it can only work as pinup. WHY????? It's a waste it can't be both (at least out of the box). If you are trying to tell a story, and you want it spicy, a sexy but functional outfit is better than only sexy or only functional. Even if it is a sexy comedy, that outfit will not work the moment a character needs to actually be out in space.

    BTW, Is Midnight Stories the only PA with the clear understanding of the purpose of the outfits making proper working Space suites and armors for males and females? I guess Yura has a couple too, but several times not for M/F.

    From Sahira bundle (that i like in general and i'm going to buy today) the Sparrow outfit i find really odd. It's fantasy (or even sci-fi). But fantasy does no equal Pinup..... so why on ANY EARTH does it has High Heels??? It remided me of my disgust with recent icecream parlor, a perfectly functional scenario but with a waitress oufit and poses with high heels. Poor waitress. Yes, i know that is easy fixable with a different footwear and some pose correction, but it should not need fixing. Even more recent, the same thing by the same authors with the School bundle, they created an amazing scenario with multiple functional full rooms (not vignetes) and decided to pair it with another pinup waiter outfit......well at least it seems they also added functional gym clothes this time.

     

    Don't get me started on the high-heels rants I'm so fond of; actually I just live a good rant.

    This College Humor video says it all.

  • ZarconDeeGrissomZarconDeeGrissom Posts: 5,414
    edited June 2020

    I don't think anyone noticed this, I missed the Sahira reference till later on. I don't think the result of SASE Jazz with Daisy8 will be 'horrific' in any way, I just don't think some will notice the discrepancy that Daisy8 isn't the intended daz-o for her.

    I will simply guess someone had a long day, and that was just a mistake when entering the required product. Also, Jazz shows up in a search for '3delight' despite 3DL not being listed on the product page, I'm not sure what is up with that, however, I will find out how well things work soon enough.

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  • Cris PalominoCris Palomino Posts: 12,549

    I don't think anyone noticed this, I missed the Sahira reference till later on. I don't think the result of SASE Jazz with Daisy8 will be 'horrific' in any way, I just don't think some will notice the discrepancy that Daisy8 isn't the intended daz-o for her.

    I will simply guess someone had a long day, and that was just a mistake when entering the required product. Also, Jazz shows up in a search for '3delight' despite 3DL not being listed on the product page, I'm not sure what is up with that, however, I will find out how well things work soon enough.

    Reported

  • Thank you, best wishes, I'm headed back to the other desk to play.  B)

  • JOdelJOdel Posts: 6,322

    Oops. Something has the hiccups.

  • SBibbSBibb Posts: 600
    edited July 2020

    OUTFIT RELEASED... Link below 

    Can anybody identify this top?

     

    @melissastjames Looks like they finally released the outfit today; https://www.daz3d.com/dforce-la-flibustiere-style-for-genesis-8-females :-)

    Edited to mention outfit had been released at the top of post.

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  • ZarconDeeGrissomZarconDeeGrissom Posts: 5,414
    edited July 2020

    that is a very good question. a quick search for ruffle sleeve top daz3d, I see nothing like that, unless it's something we were not supposed to see yet, it's probably a kitbashed hex/Zbrush moded item. The only top I see that is remotely close to the center part is this 'InStyle - Ruffle Lingerie G8' thing, it is just missing the Ruffel across the top. the rest looks like a sleeve of skirts stacked up the arm and shrunk down, or something like that. way too much work and effort to put in for a render I feel, unless ye are going to make it nice and available for others. (looks up from typing at the text under the pic) oh, never mind, lol.

    bravo Nathy, looks good.

    ok, so, "Iray only", I wonder if that has surface zones to work with for 3delight cloth shaders, hmmm. Nothing against Iray, I was literally just looking at a 67GigaByte model that no graphics card on this planet will render in Iray, lol.

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  • SBibbSBibb Posts: 600
    edited July 2020

     

    that is a very good question. a quick search for ruffle sleeve top daz3d, I see nothing like that, unless it's something we were not supposed to see yet, it's probably a kitbashed hex/Zbrush moded item. The only top I see that is remotely close to the center part is this 'InStyle - Ruffle Lingerie G8' thing, it is just missing the Ruffel across the top. the rest looks like a sleeve of skirts stacked up the arm and shrunk down, or something like that. way too much work and effort to put in for a render I feel, unless ye are going to make it nice and available for others. (looks up from typing at the text under the pic) oh, never mind, lol.

    bravo Nathy, looks good.

    ok, so, "Iray only", I wonder if that has surface zones to work with for 3delight cloth shaders, hmmm. Nothing against Iray, I was literally just looking at a 67GigaByte model that no graphics card on this planet will render in Iray, lol.

    Opps, yeah, didn't think about that looking confusing. Sorry about that. I've edited it to mention the outfit was released at the top.

    Also, I should probably mention that the belt piece clipping in that image isn't typical for the outfit... it was a result of me having gone through several poses and dForce simulations for other promo pics that didn't match the final pose in this one. When I reapplied the belt all looked well again. (Picture attached where I reapplied the belt and spot rendered it). :-)

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  • ZarconDeeGrissomZarconDeeGrissom Posts: 5,414
    edited July 2020

    that looks good.  I didn't even notice the clipping, the shirt caught my eye. the first thing I did, was instinctively scrolled to the bottom of the product page to see if 3delight was listed.   the promos do look nice. I will give that a try on the 3rd, I'm just hoping the upper lace, lower hemline, and chest area cloth are separate surface zones, just to make life easier using that in 3DL.

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