And you thought a toilet with no seat was a problem

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  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,859

    ...there was the neighbour's house with it's side door on the other side of the window.  Scary enough.

  • Taoz said:

    Actually it seems to be part of an "Utopia" series of products, which includes the missing room/apartment:

    Utopia Apartment Interior  -  https://www.daz3d.com/catalog/product/view/id/063663
    Utopia Living  -  https://www.daz3d.com/catalog/product/view/id/062957
     

    Utopia, No toilet seat, no toilet, no bathroom, no kitchen, no closets, but a great deck!

  • kyoto kid said:

    ...seems every bathroom here has a big window by the shower/tub.  Even Wash Down has one in in the shower stall. 

    Crikey, some even have skylights and a few are outdoors.

    Pretty much every place I lived in had no big window (or for that fact one of any size) right above the tub or one in the shower stall.  The only exception was the house I grew up in back in Milwaukee (and that had heavily etched glass in the window as well as a shade).

    My grandmothers house had a window in the tub. I don't remember if there was a shower. Tis house was probably built right after WWII.

  • kyoto kid said:

    ...there was the neighbour's house with it's side door on the other side of the window.  Scary enough.

    I saw a you tube about spite houses. You would be surprised the lenghts somepeople went to to build a house inches from an enemy, just to block the view.

     

  • nicsttnicstt Posts: 11,715
    Cybersox said:
    nicstt said:
    Cybersox said:
    xyer0 said:
    Cybersox said:

    This weeks PC+ freebie Utopia Hallway has no rooms! Doors open out onto nothing. My poor character stepped out to a 1000 foot fall. Nothing left but a pretty purple splat.

    The real problem is that the name ISN'T Utopia Hallway or Utopia 10th Floor Hallway, but Utopia 10th Floor, a name that clearly does implies an entire floor.  Even worse is the fact that not only is the product's name misleading, but the item won't even show up in the DAZ search if you search for "hallway," even though that's literally all there is to the product.  I've posted a couple of threads recently about the increasing lack of correlation between DAZ product names and what's actually included and the problem only seems to be growing.  Yes, it's just a freebie for now, but if at some point in the future a customer was actually looking to buy a hallway, the fact that an actual DAZ product that fits that need can't be found by using the single most logical search parameter is a pretty sad commentary on how little care is being put into how the store is managed these days. 

    Yup. But this is not a NEW phenomenon, although its frequency has increased.

    Which is what's so bizarre.  One would think that a company would get better at isolating potential problems during the QC/marketing process if they considered it an issue, but the catalog is getting noticeably more poorly maintained in general, being filled with dead links to missing read-mes, non-links or non-mentions of required products, a complete lack of any attempt to re-codify older products as being 3DL or Iray ready, and an increasingly useless search system.  Heck, the only reason that it's as usuable as it is is due to people from outside DAZ creating apps to rectify things that DAZ should have fixed on their own. 

    Which of course, generates revenue; to be fair, Daz need that revenue or no Studio development.

    Which would be fine if they weren't spending some of that money on things like redesigning the carousels on the store front page for the third time and making animated sale pages that are only used once, when it could have gone to updating/fixing all of the broken documentation.     

    Marketting generates sales.

    Changing things generates a reaction in folks, not always positive, but even when it isn't positive that can be no bad thing.

  • TaozTaoz Posts: 10,259
    Taoz said:

    Actually it seems to be part of an "Utopia" series of products, which includes the missing room/apartment:

    Utopia Apartment Interior  -  https://www.daz3d.com/catalog/product/view/id/063663
    Utopia Living  -  https://www.daz3d.com/catalog/product/view/id/062957
     

    Utopia, No toilet seat, no toilet, no bathroom, no kitchen, no closets, but a great deck!

    In Utopia people are breatharians, so no need for kitchens or toilets.

  • IvyIvy Posts: 7,165
    edited April 2020

    Utopia Apartment Interior matches up with the  Utopia 10th Floor Great

    which I would think makes it not any where close as bad a toilet with out a seat. laugh

     

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  • nomad-ads_8ecd56922enomad-ads_8ecd56922e Posts: 1,998
    edited April 2020
    Cybersox said:
    Sevrin said:

    Speaking of bathrooms, you might not want to have a path leading right up to your window so people can watch you in the shower.

     

     

    Actually, I've stayed in a hotel that had exactly that.  We were on the beach level floor at what was then called the Princeville Resort on Kaui, so our door opened directly out onto the beach (if you've seen the movie South Pacific, that was exactly the view from our room) and the room had a massive shower/bath/jacuzzi with a huge window for looking at the scenery.  However, the trick was that the entire window was covered with an electrochromatic film that converted it from transparent to opaque at the turn of a dial.  Pretty dang snazzy tech at the time (this was in 2003), but now you can buy variants of the same stuff on Amazon for $50 US . https://www.amazon.com/HOHO-Electronic-Switchable-Electric-21cmx29-7cm/dp/B07428XTF7 ;  

    Some years ago, there was a TV episode of some travel show on some travel channel, doing a rundown of the most unusual restrooms in the world, that you could then visit.  Some were in resorts, in your own private room, some were in semi-public establishments like restuarants.  There was one restroom from that show that stuck in my memory, and it was at some restuarant or something.

    This was one of those one-toilet restrooms with the toilet out by itself in the room (i.e. not in a stall), facing towards the door you came in by.  And the entire front wall of the restroom was clear glass.  So was the door.  A lot of people were a mite set aback by this design... until an attendant there dutifully explained that once you closed and latched the door, the entire wall and door went opaque, since it was using one of those electrochromatic thingies described above.  When asked "Well, what happens if the power goes off, does it go clear again?" they explained it was only see-through when power was applied.  So, if the power went off, the walls stayed opaque.

    This show MIGHT have been in the late 90s or the early 00s, my memory is a mite hazey.

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  • WolfwoodWolfwood Posts: 847

    dennisgray41 said:

    Actually it seems to be part of an "Utopia" series of products, which includes the missing room/apartment:

    Utopia Apartment Interior  -  https://www.daz3d.com/catalog/product/view/id/063663
    Utopia Living  -  https://www.daz3d.com/catalog/product/view/id/062957
     

    Utopia, No toilet seat, no toilet, no bathroom, no kitchen, no closets, but a great deck!

    I would love an addon that has exactly that. Specially a bedroom a matching SMALL bathroom. Lots of appartments interiors do not have a bathroom and most bathroom are then disproportionated sized or difficult to match.... or both.

    The interior has an additional door, let's hope it is expanded.

  • TaozTaoz Posts: 10,259
    edited April 2020
    Wolfwood said:
    Wolfwood said:

    dennisgray41 said:

    Taoz said:

    Actually it seems to be part of an "Utopia" series of products, which includes the missing room/apartment:

    Utopia Apartment Interior  -  https://www.daz3d.com/catalog/product/view/id/063663
    Utopia Living  -  https://www.daz3d.com/catalog/product/view/id/062957
     

    Utopia, No toilet seat, no toilet, no bathroom, no kitchen, no closets, but a great deck!

    I would love an addon that has exactly that. Specially a bedroom a matching SMALL bathroom. Lots of appartments interiors do not have a bathroom and most bathroom are then disproportionated sized or difficult to match.... or both.

    The interior has an additional door, let's hope it is expanded.

    Walls are separate so maybe you can replace some of those without doors with ones with doors to get more rooms.

    Doors are sliding doors with electronic door locks, the codebox will look a bit odd for a toilet or bedroom I guess but you can hide it and add your own door handle, and maybe rig the door or something.

    This bathroom set though has a door (render 1) that might work (no open option, but it's a separate object so can be rigged) and except for the toilet which can be easily scaled down, proportions seem to be OK (used G8F base here).  If you don't want the window it's easy to cover it with a plane and copy the wall textures over.

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  • TaozTaoz Posts: 10,259
    edited April 2020

    double post

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  • WolfwoodWolfwood Posts: 847

    That looks pretty good actually. Thank you!

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675

    a toilet seat that swivels?

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 40,086
    Mystiarra said:

    a toilet seat that swivels?

    if it swivels it would miss the bowl

    devil

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675
    Mystiarra said:

    a toilet seat that swivels?

    if it swivels it would miss the bowl

    devil

    i heard the toilets in japan are extra special, and noisy smiley

  • SevrinSevrin Posts: 6,313
    Mystiarra said:

    a toilet seat that swivels?

    if it swivels it would miss the bowl

    devil

    You have to swivel with the bowl.

  • LucielLuciel Posts: 475
    Mystiarra said:

    a toilet seat that swivels?

    if it swivels it would miss the bowl

    devil

    Maybe it swivels to catch all the stray drops? cheeky

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675

    i could really use a steampunked toilet

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 40,086
    Mystiarra said:

    i could really use a steampunked toilet

    just stick gears on it

  • CybersoxCybersox Posts: 9,278
    Mystiarra said:
    Mystiarra said:

    a toilet seat that swivels?

    if it swivels it would miss the bowl

    devil

    i heard the toilets in japan are extra special, and noisy smiley

    Special yes... .some of the extra features added on Japanese toilets will blow your mind, but I've spent a lot of time in Japan and the only place I've heard super-noisy toilets are airports and subway stations where they use ultrafast-recycle units to handle the crazy volume (3.5 million commuters pass through Shinjuku station alone every single day.)  Outside of those, the standards for water efficiency are much higher than in the U.S., so most units in homes, apartments and hotels have, besides the almost ubiquitous bidets and heater functions, two different flush modes so no more water is used than necessary, as well as soft-drop seats that can't fall and make a clatter.  Now, when you're actually sitting on them, it can sound loud, because you're right above an echo chamber, especially if you're using one with an electic blow drying option, but from outside the room they're almost ninja quiet, which is necessary considering how small and closely packed Japanese apartments, hotels and offices are.  In addition, in many homes and apartments, the toilets are further partioned off into their own rooms with seperate venting to futher isolate them by both sound and smell, and it's not uncommon to find them with a sink built into the top of the tank so you that you can wash your hands with the water that will be used for the next flush. 

      

  • CybersoxCybersox Posts: 9,278
    edited April 2020
    Mystiarra said:

    a toilet seat that swivels?

    Sure.  They're not common, but they exist.  Here's an actual example:

    https://cdn.homecrux.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/Hidealoo-Retractable-Toilet-seat.gif

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  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 40,086

    well I have trouble making it if the seat is just down ...

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,859
    edited April 2020
    Cybersox said:
    Mystiarra said:
    Mystiarra said:

    a toilet seat that swivels?

    if it swivels it would miss the bowl

    devil

    i heard the toilets in japan are extra special, and noisy smiley

    Special yes... .some of the extra features added on Japanese toilets will blow your mind, but I've spent a lot of time in Japan and the only place I've heard super-noisy toilets are airports and subway stations where they use ultrafast-recycle units to handle the crazy volume (3.5 million commuters pass through Shinjuku station alone every single day.)  Outside of those, the standards for water efficiency are much higher than in the U.S., so most units in homes, apartments and hotels have, besides the almost ubiquitous bidets and heater functions, two different flush modes so no more water is used than necessary, as well as soft-drop seats that can't fall and make a clatter.  Now, when you're actually sitting on them, it can sound loud, because you're right above an echo chamber, especially if you're using one with an electic blow drying option, but from outside the room they're almost ninja quiet, which is necessary considering how small and closely packed Japanese apartments, hotels and offices are.  In addition, in many homes and apartments, the toilets are further partioned off into their own rooms with seperate venting to futher isolate them by both sound and smell, and it's not uncommon to find them with a sink built into the top of the tank so you that you can wash your hands with the water that will be used for the next flush. 

      

    ...I think the Safeway in my neighbourhood has a couple of those, they sound almost as loud as a turbojet engine when you flush them.

    Cybersox said:
    Mystiarra said:

    a toilet seat that swivels?

    Sure.  They're not common, but they exist.  Here's an actual example:

    https://cdn.homecrux.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/Hidealoo-Retractable-Toilet-seat.gif

    ..I wonder about the seal lasting with all the movement.it would get. Also doesn't look all to sturdy with regards to supporting weight (which would also put more stress on the seal).

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  • TaozTaoz Posts: 10,259
    Cybersox said:
    Mystiarra said:

    a toilet seat that swivels?

    Sure.  They're not common, but they exist.  Here's an actual example:

    https://cdn.homecrux.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/Hidealoo-Retractable-Toilet-seat.gif

    Seems to me it just takes up more space.

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,859

    ..that too, like where do you keep all the cleaning supplies?

  • Ivy said:

    Utopia Apartment Interior matches up with the  Utopia 10th Floor Great

    which I would think makes it not any where close as bad a toilet with out a seat. laugh

     

    Utopia Apartment Interior hasn't got a toilet seat, or a toilet.

  • CybersoxCybersox Posts: 9,278
    Taoz said:
    Cybersox said:
    Mystiarra said:

    a toilet seat that swivels?

    Sure.  They're not common, but they exist.  Here's an actual example:

    https://cdn.homecrux.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/Hidealoo-Retractable-Toilet-seat.gif

     

    Seems to me it just takes up more space.

    It does in the example, though it should be noted that the sink is actually the top of the water tank.  I think the main idea is for use in RVs, boats and micro-houses, where they swing out into what's otherwise used as the shower area, like this:    

  • TaozTaoz Posts: 10,259

     

     

    Cybersox said:
    Taoz said:
    Cybersox said:
    Mystiarra said:

    a toilet seat that swivels?

    Sure.  They're not common, but they exist.  Here's an actual example:

    https://cdn.homecrux.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/Hidealoo-Retractable-Toilet-seat.gif

     

    Seems to me it just takes up more space.

    It does in the example, though it should be noted that the sink is actually the top of the water tank.  I think the main idea is for use in RVs, boats and micro-houses, where they swing out into what's otherwise used as the shower area, like this:    

    OK, that makes more sense.  BTW, just came across the video the gif clip was made from:

     

  • Ivy said:

    Utopia Apartment Interior matches up with the  Utopia 10th Floor Great

    which I would think makes it not any where close as bad a toilet with out a seat. laugh

     

    Utopia Apartment Interior hasn't got a toilet seat, or a toilet.

    Taoz said:

     

     

    Cybersox said:
    Taoz said:
    Cybersox said:
    Mystiarra said:

    a toilet seat that swivels?

    Sure.  They're not common, but they exist.  Here's an actual example:

    https://cdn.homecrux.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/Hidealoo-Retractable-Toilet-seat.gif

     

    Seems to me it just takes up more space.

    It does in the example, though it should be noted that the sink is actually the top of the water tank.  I think the main idea is for use in RVs, boats and micro-houses, where they swing out into what's otherwise used as the shower area, like this:    

    OK, that makes more sense.  BTW, just came across the video the gif clip was made from:

     

    That would break the first time I sat in it.

  • IvyIvy Posts: 7,165
    edited April 2020
    Ivy said:

    Utopia Apartment Interior matches up with the  Utopia 10th Floor Great

    which I would think makes it not any where close as bad a toilet with out a seat. laugh

     

    Utopia Apartment Interior hasn't got a toilet seat, or a toilet.

    No it doesnt'. t But as the Op you started this discussing that the Utopia Hall had doors that open to no where . in regards to the first post of this thread nothing was mentioned about bathrooms accept in the thread title which I am assuming it was used  as a comparison to those room sets that had toilets but not seats. .

    now you have me confused,...Ha!

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