Request for Products already owned
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I hope this goes here, as product requests didn't seem the right fit.
Anyway, I am trying to find a product I already own from my product library. I know I can sort and filter by name; however, what if I don't remember the name, but where I got it? In this case, it was a former RuntimeDNA product.
It'd be nice to be able to have advanced search features in our product library, it would also be nice to be able to filter by character (ex V4, M4) in case associated poses in a product worked on a specific figure
Thanks
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I usually start by searching under FILE (right next to the Product tab) and put in what TYPE of item it is- like Skirt and Lamp or, or....
If you check the bottom left box - Filter By Context it will search for relveant items, according to what you have selected in your scene tab.
And it would only show compatible poses and such.
You need to pick the MAIN FIGURE in the scene tab to get figure-based-results.
There is a way to search for key words, but I can't remember BUT I do kinda remember that not being too reliable -as many older items, well, many items in general, don't have useful tags.
There is a way to edit the meta data/tags/key words, but I'd have to do some searching. can't remember that either. lol
If this is a RuntimeDNA product, you are unlikely to find it in the Smart Data tab referenced above, so you are better off doing a search in the Content Library tab.
The product library really is a terrible system for organizational purposes, but given how little support DAZ actually gives to even the official documents section and the fact that a huge number of products have had their pages wiped clean or totally deleted, my guess is that the datafield that the PL pulls from is extremely limited. That said, I mainly use Taosoft's DAZ Product Manager and while it's still hobbled by the information coming in, it's a definite improvement as it lets you see multiple product images simultaneously, pulls product data from several locations, and can be run offline.
Install the DazDeals extension in the browser you use for Daz3D purchases:
https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/106296/announcing-daz-deals-browser-add-on/p1
You don't need to set up any of the notifications, you just need to enable the option Show filter for wishlisted and owned items + "% off sort filter; click on the extension, it will take you to the settings page, make sure the checkbox next to the option is checked.
Now go to the standard Daz3D shopping page, select the various categories you are looking, e.g. Michael4 in the figure dropdown and RuntimeDNA in the artist dropdown (better to try to find the PA last ;-) Now check the "Only show owned" checkbox; this is added to the page by DazDeals.
Unfortunately there is no way to search in your Product Library online or in DAZ Studio that will return all RuntimeDNA products all the time without actually knowing the combination of search terms in advance that finds the missing products and if you had that kind of memory you likely wouldn't need to search anyway. I own products by them too that I often want to use but have trouble finding.
You can at the bottom of your Content Libray pane in DAZ Studio go through the alphabetized list of individual products you have DIM / DAZ Connect installed to find it or you can go look into the "Poser Format" folder of your DAZ Studio Content Library and look for the product as products by the same author are usually all in the same location of folders in their file system hierarchy. That, Alphabetized Product Listings and manually looking through your Content Library folders for DAZ Format and Poser Format folders is the best way to remember content that is fun to use but you can't remember having bought.
You could eventually manually add metadata to all your products to get them to show up in SmartContent when you type in a keyword associated with the metadata. Make sure you export and save that CMS dB after you do all that work though because it disappears if you new install Windows / OSX and such.
Sorry all, I meant to say when looking for a product I own, but have not downloaded
P3DO might help, just the free version, it shows your Poser content as thumbnails you can search
since it has a free version I don't know if a link is OK
if not this post can just cease to be viewable
I have only ever used the free one myself
https://www.senosoft.com/
If you have a rough idea when you might have bought the item, you could search your sales records in the product library. This might not be feasible if you have been doing this for 'years' or the item was in a bundle. Shortly after I started, I started a file of pdfs of all sales pages and keep them organized close to how Smart Content is organized; and use Google Sheets to track my characters and hairs. But there are times I have to search the store by character or some random word trying to find what I can see in my mind's eye, but can't remember the official name.
The problem with using DAZ deals is that it ONLY shows products that are still active in the store. I have several thousand that aren't, as DAZ deletes them when they are discontinued or the PAs leave DAZ. That includes a lot of very new product that, for one reason or another, is suddenly gone, as well as most of the PA freebies ever distributed through the store on holidays, etc. That's why I use DAZ deals for shopping but Taosoft's program for inventory.
That's not really just a PA problem, that's an issue with how the stores themselves haven't given us ways to search by sufficient keywords... which is the exact problem that the original poster was addressing. Renderosity is somewhat better than DAZ when it comes to seachability, although their categories for search can be a bit nebulous and different PAs do seem to define the same terms differently. On the other hand, DAZ's store is such a mangled mess that it can't even tell that a DAZ figure Starter Bundle is actually a sub-part of that same figure's Pro Bundle, or that there are actually RDNA bundles that contain LARGER bundles inside them that contain the first bundle. Since none of that has been addressed in the many years that people have been complaining about it, I put the odds of it being fixed at around equal to that of a snowball's chances in Death Valley in midsummer at high noon.
Where this is really a pain is that there are tons of items within enviornments. outfits and pose sets that I frequently need on their own, and there's often no way to find these short of a Google Hail Mary. I try and save them all to categories or as isolated presets whenever I find one, but there are some products out there that have hundreds of props, plants, light sets, etc.
Oh, and one last gripe - Vendors who change stores and move their products. I've got some products that I bought from RDNA that moved to DAZ and now are at Renderosity. I have products that I bought at Renderosity and now they're here, and vice versa. Then I have products that I bought at Renderosity and the same vendor released the same product here using the same name, but it's a different version with Iray textures. I even have one product that I boght here at DAZ and then the vendor changed the product and wanted people to buy a new version using the same sku code as the old one that I have, even though they're not the same product. It's really pretty much impossible to be sure what you actually have these days and I've ended up discovering duplicates more than a few times. I was really hoping that Taosoft's Rendo, RDNA and DAZ manager products would all end up being cross compatible one day but it seems pretty unlikely given that the Renderosity version stopped working fully when Rendo did their last store upgrade...
There is an alternative Rendo version (I emailed you a link to it at some point) which can get the product data, it just can't batch download product files (zips) anymore but it has an import option for manually downloaded files instead which is fairly easy now that they have a "Download all files" (for the selected order) button. Otherwise it's more or less identical, just a bit slower in getting the product data. It's currently not public as I need to update and fix some things first, but it's usable. At some point I'll add download of promos and product data, as far as that's possible (their store pages are a mess to work with).
I've always thought that was the point.
I mainly use DIM for searching.
If you own it but have not downloaded it it will be in DIM or in DAZ Connect. In DIM you'll see it in the Download tab unless you've hidden it & in that case you check the box that says "Show Hidden".
Of course in this case the PA might not be American, as the official word is aeroplane in almost all English speaking countries outside the US.
I have added sub-categories to Environments to find things: Asian, European, City, Western, Industrial/School, Military/Sci-Fi, Public, Work Area... and recently started on Transportation, beyond Air, Space, Land, Water to more detailed ones that I need for my needs. I have been considering how to attack Wardrobe next, Footwear is one of my big irritants, since a lot of outfits come without shoes and I know I have just the right pair, just have to find them. Heels, Flats, Sports, Boots... are being considered. Then there are Props, I did a bit, so I can find the type of furniture I need. But Landscapes is another that I need to deal with. And I get to do this on two computers.
if you can describe the product here, someone might be able to offer suggestions.
I usually use the store search on the main page, that can take advantage of keywords in the search parameters. That gives a list of possibilities, and then just look at the ones that are already purchased to find the one your looking for. It has the download icon displayed.
But, again, if the product is no longer in the store, the store search on the main page won't reveal that either.. though sometimes it will actually auto-prompt for the missing product. Search for Urban Sprawl, for example, and you'll only get results for Urban Sprawl 2 and 3, though the store does show the original, now discontinued, Urban Sprawl one in the pulldown list. Likewise, the old Lisa's Botanicals Bundle still shows in the autoprompt if you type Lisa's, even though it's been gone from the store for half a decade, but you'll never get an actual listing for it.
Smart content, I never found it to be.
I use DIM and Product Library to find something, If it doesn't show in DIM, then it must be somewhere.
From other sites, I check what I've downloaded and/or installed into the various folders I have for specific sites and items.
I'll second this one.
This will download and locally store not only the product info and images, but if the product page no longer exists, (if cancelled or otherwise no-longer-available), the tool will cull the residual information and image from your product library, where some info will always remain.
The developer is responsive and the tool seems quite stable in my experience.
To the original poster, it also lets you browse the images and search using keywords, as well as sorting by order and date, I think.
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the kissing booth from rdna didnt come over. i need to reinstall on new pc
I've been using product library on daz account area. It's not perfect but it helps. Sometimes I just hop on the store to see "purchased" as well. I have a HUGE library. I did see when I was in a bunfle there was a grayed ut "purchased" on the time of the pack I bought before. It gave a discount which I thought was too cool.