Looking for a poor persons car
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Looking for a car you might see in a low income neighborhood. A cheap type of car or maybe a little beat up. Thanks!
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...well, there is this, and it's on sale.
https://www.daz3d.com/retro-vehicle-bundle
i bought that awhile back. its really nice.
I actually saw a vw bug like that last week, it's been years since I spotted one in the wild before that lol
Someone a few blocks away from me has one, so I frequently see that one. The REALLY rare one to spot, is the oldest version, with the double rear window. I seriously doubt there's even a hundred of those still riding in the world.
What time period are you going for? I live near a low income neighborhood and they don't use retro cars like the ones kyoto kid linked to. The oldest cars they use are from the 1990s, though they are in the same rough conditions as the linked product.
Well that's called a bike isn't it ?
yeah, Toyota Corollas like the one I just gave away but a little worse for wear here in Australia for example
If you have the time, you could look through these free cars (poor persons cars?)
https://poserdazfreebies.miraheze.org/wiki/Autos
I had a 25+ yr old Toyota Carina which I couln't afford to patch up any more, considering the amount of driving I do nowadays. Got a bus pass instead
I'm sure I've seen a Trabant car somewhere. Otherwise just take a random 'generic' car and add some rust and less shine to it. Perhaps a broken lamp that has been taped and so on,
Use the sedan version of these perhaps https://www.daz3d.com/2003-jp-sport-convertible
Or those https://www.daz3d.com/2001-eu-auto
You could check out Vanishing Point's website... they have some SUVs, Minivans, sedans and two muscle cars...
If you just need background vehicles to populate a scene, you could check out 3D warehouse, but you'll need to convert the models from DAE format.
...here in Portland seeing an 80's Subaru on the street (still working) is not all that uncommon
I saw a transient pedalling down the road on a kid's big wheel today...
That said, yeah, a car made in 1991 is now 30 years old. The old stuff from the 70s is more likely, at least in the western US, to be owned by some one with lots of disposable income who likes going to cruise-ins.
I still see some K-cars floating around. They are old. but appently a nice reliable automobile.
...cars made here in the states during the 70s were often not much to write home about. The popular "cruising" cars these days are from the 60s.
1970s Mustang. Looks more like a fusion of the Maverick and Pinto than the hot "pony car" it once was..
The AMC Gremlin? Basically a mid size car missing the boot.
The Pacer X....Well maybe if your Garth and Wayne, it's cool.
Chrysler Cordoba "with that rich Corinthian leather", "Landau" top (I wonder if Martin got royalties from that), and "opera windows".
Ford Grenada. Just plain, ugh.
Chevrolet Camaro. Even muscle cars became bloated and heavy along with getting that ugly 5 mph bumper and catalytic converter.
the 2001 Corolla I gave to my former neighbours 17yo son last Sunday
I am too scared to drive and its been sitting there 8 months unregistered
after my early retirement I didn't need to endure the constant tailgating and agressive drivers so now I amble along with my granny trolley and catch the occasional train instead.
Sorry its sideways Firefox app does that on ipad, Safari stopped uploading images a few iOS updates ago.
Since DAZ is so skittish on things that look like protected brands, it's harder to find things that have a look that says old without going back to the point where the car is a "classic" now. That said, since no one's mentioned these yet...
here at DAZ -
https://www.daz3d.com/1973-station-wagon
https://www.daz3d.com/road-trip-hippy-van (there are still a lot of these on the road, especially in Hawaii and as you get closer to Mexico. ditto for the classic bugs.)
https://www.daz3d.com/wasteland-vehicle-construction-set
Over at Rendo Powerage has an El Camino and an, if you really want a total wrecker, an Auto-crusher set that has a couple of low poly complete junkers
Mausel at rendo has a vintage hearse
There are also some nice models at ShareCG, but the rights usage can be iffy on those.
I would think those retro cars would be collector's items! Why not just get any regular low level car from 2000-2010 and add rust/dirt shaders?
...there are a few more "lookalikes"
https://www.daz3d.com/british-farm-pickup (Rover Land Rover SWB)
https://www.daz3d.com/offroad-car (Rover Land Rover LWB)
https://www.daz3d.com/metro-police-car ("new" Chrysler Challenger)
https://www.daz3d.com/teuf-teuf (Citroen 2CV)
https://www.daz3d.com/classic-van-and-props (Citroen H Van)
https://www.daz3d.com/epic-super-sports-car (Bugatti Veyron)
https://www.daz3d.com/toon-racer (Porsche Carrera)
https://www.daz3d.com/limousine-prince (Jaguar Mk II)
https://www.daz3d.com/spy-car-v12 (Aston Martin DBS)
https://www.daz3d.com/car-ranger (Rover Land Cruiser)
https://www.daz3d.com/ladybird (VW Beetle)
...didn't list any of the old AM and EU Series which also are variants on existing cars.
its difficult to find regualr cars..always fancy sports cars, expensive stuff, etc. i look for lo res cars a lot to populate city scenes, but not easy to find.
Had a Ford Granada when I was young. Sky blue with a white Landau top. Everytime I came to a stop sign, the vacuum hoses would pop off and it would stall and I'd have to hurry up and get under the hood and push them back on so that the car would start again. The old days weren't always good...lol.
Laurie
Memories...... This was my car in HS, I parked across the street at a diner, so I wouldn't get humilated, Rofl !!!
I still have not figured why the PA stuck a Pontiac Firebird front end on a Chevrolet Nova.
Not after I removed the cat, installed a true dual exhaust, headers, 2.20/1.60 heads massaged by me, a stout short block with a healthy cam, a better carb, bigger radiator, a bunch of Herb Adams and Gustard suspension parts, welded in subframe connectors and a SCCA 6 point roll cage, a good fuel cell (in case I messed up) a radar jammer, a police scanner. a few "other tricks" (brake and tail light cutout siwtches, etc...) and sprung for a load of liquor because running beer and other spirits to friends in dry countys in East Texas was considered bootlegging back in the day.
The 'poor' cars I always see are vans. 15 year old Chevy, Ford, and Dodge vans dominate the poorer neighborhoods since they can pack in families. Then you have cheap old cars college kids drive, like Corollas, Civics, and such. Vintage Civics are still somewhat popular among modders.
The Chevy Chevette needs to be in that big post above. Those were everywhere for a really long time, especially the low income neighborhoods. They were best selling small car in the US for 2 years, 79-80. But yeah, you don't see many cars from that era at all anymore. And thank goodness, many were gas guzzling death machines. Today the ones I see are driven by grandparents or show cars. And even most grandparents have something way newer these days. Economy cars are where its at, like the Civic, which could get over 40 MPG in the 90s and early 2000s. Then they kept making economy cars bigger and effectively died out. But those types of cars will stay popular for some people for years to come because they do get such great gas mileage and also run forever. Except the Geo Metro, those just died. Geos hung around a short while and you might still see one occasionally, but they didn't last as long as the Japanese imports. The hyper mile types loved Metros though.
WOW - personally I wouldn't consider them poor people cars, I guess people's ideas regarding being hard up vary drastically.
its difficult to find regualr cars..always fancy sports cars, expensive stuff, etc. i look for lo res cars a lot to populate city scenes, but not easy to find.
Doing anything set in a "real world" environment has always been a huge problem using items from the DAZ store, as the dynamic here has always been radically skewed towards pretty women in skimpy outfits and enviroments and props that make them look even more attractive, and in the case of cars it's known that DAZ is also highly averse to anything that looks too much like a something for which there could potentially be legal issues over the design. There are a few vendors at Renderosity who do a wider and more realistic range of vehicles, and many of those have begun to re-release products in Iray ready versions. Unfortunately, even there the trend is still to make everything all glossy and pretty... unless the vendor has gone in the complete opposite direction of almost totally destroyed for dystopian environments... so I found a long time ago that one of the best investments one can make is to learn how to tweak surfaces manually, both before and after rendering, in a phot editimg program like Photoshop or the free GIMP, and to buy a couple of good sets of grunge and grime shaders, which for Iray would be things like https://www.daz3d.com/ptf-grungy-threads https://www.daz3d.com/iray-grungeworx https://www.daz3d.com/iray-surfaceworx https://www.daz3d.com/more-rust--iray-shaders https://www.daz3d.com/fsl-weathered-shaders-for-iray https://www.daz3d.com/da-rust-and-grime-shaders https://www.daz3d.com/a-touch-of-dirt-for-iray.https://www.daz3d.com/more-rust--iray-shaders ; etc.
The other good trick is to actually use photos of real world items as backgrounds or turned into props as "billboards". It's often a lot easier to do that and match the lighting on your subject than it is to find exactly what you need in a ready-built 3-D asset... There's a great utility on sale right now for that purpose https://www.daz3d.com/billboard-nodes-plugin and there are a number of good tutorials out there on the subject, including this one by Dreamlight https://www.daz3d.com/flat-in-japan--learn-to-use-flat-billboards-in-daz-studio-iray
There are a bunch of freebie cars here: https://free3d.com/3d-models/vehicles. I'm not sure how many work in DS though. Can you import 3DS? I've never tried. I've never used Hexagon or Blender either but maybe they can be initially brought into one of those first? And if you import an obj. do you lose material zones? I need to learn more techie stuff lol.