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  • sapatsapat Posts: 1,735
    edited September 2019
    kyoto kid said:

    ...but where's the love for GI Joe and Stretch Armstrong?

    Even though I was a Barbie superfan, I also had GI Joe. He had painted on hair and that humungious dogtag. Like Barbie, he had stiff straight arms and legs. I remember stretch, but I had Gumby and Pokey. Good times. Wonder if someone here with decent modeling skills can make faux figures that can avoid infringment.
    Had many other dolls in the Barbie related clan, but Hasbro's Tressy was an oddball. She had hair you could grow and shorten. A button on her abdomen (think big belly button) you pressed while pulling a chunk of hair out of the top of her head which made it grow, and a spot at the base of her spine in back where you had to stuck in a metal key to wind it back down. "And it really really grows!"

    All this talk makes me want to work on a faux Barbie from G3 or G8, but use a morph for flat feet. I mean who can wear heels for 70 years.

    Edited to add GI Joe hair possibly from the UK, bu as Richard said, maybe adopted by the US. Surely DS can make better hair for him????

     

     

     

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  • RedfernRedfern Posts: 1,647
    sapat said:
    kyoto kid said:

    ...but where's the love for GI Joe and Stretch Armstrong?

    ...but I had Gumby and Pokey. Good times. Wonder if someone here with decent modeling skills can make faux figures that can avoid infringment..

    I can't remember where I got it, but back during the "prehistoric times" of Poser 4, somebody offered a free Gumby figure.  Impressively accurate!  Alas, that artist did not offer a Pokey, at least not that i was aware.  Sorry, no renders to showcase ATM as I'm at work.

    Sincerely,

    BIll

  • JOdelJOdel Posts: 6,316
    edited September 2019

    Barbie came out when I was about nine. I thought it was hideous and didn't want one. Despite the fact that at that age I collected dolls.

    Actually, the original Barbie had a very different face from the one that people think of now. I think they were pushing her as a "glamour" character, but what came across was one of those rather mean-looking hard-edged faces. Pretty3D's promo girl is rather in the same ballpark, but a good deal more attractive than something molded in plastic. It was a couple of years before they redesigned her face to look more like a "pretty" doll.

    ETA: Is it my imagination, or am I misremembering a later addition to the line of Barbie's "best friend" Midge? I seem to remember such a character being on the shelves in the toy stores. Very similar to Bargie, but not quite as exaggerated a figure. I suppose it could have been another company's attempt at a copycat. But I thought it was from Matel. (I do remember Skipper, and rather approved, but I never had one of those either.)

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  • sapatsapat Posts: 1,735
    JOdel said:

    Barbie came out when I was about nine. I thought it was hideous and didn't want one. Despite the fact that at that age I collected dolls.

    Actually, the original Barbie had a very different face from the one that people think of now. I think they were pushing her as a "glamour" character, but what came across was one of those rather mean-looking hard-edged faces. Pretty3D's promo girl is rather in the same ballpark, but a good deal more attractive than something molded in plastic. It was a couple of years before they redesigned her face to look more like a "pretty" doll.

    ETA: Is it my imagination, or am I misremembering a later addition to the line of Barbie's "best friend" Midge? I seem to remember such a character being on the shelves in the toy stores. Very similar to Bargie, but not quite as exaggerated a figure. I suppose it could have been another company's attempt at a copycat. But I thought it was from Matel. (I do remember Skipper, and rather approved, but I never had one of those either.)

    I had what I guess you'd call an original Barbie. It was in 1962 or 1963. Yes, she did look like a psycho who wouldn't think twice about breaking your kneecaps, Pretty3d's girl is a good comparison to her. I had Midge too, She was a cute freckle face with a smile, and seemed a very unlikely friend for Barbie. I also had Skipper who was cute. Long blonde hair, bangs, and flat feet. Barbie's little sister. 

  • RedfernRedfern Posts: 1,647
    edited September 2019

    Yeah, the first mass release, circa 1959, possessed a steely eyed side glance with pursed lips as though plotting something.

    http://www.fashion-doll-guide.com/Number-One-and-Two-Ponytail-Vintage-Barbie-Doll.html

    And while I certainly agree with you on the comparison, if Pretty3D reads thes comments, that vendor will likely be gritting teeth in annoyance. indecision

    Sincerely,

    Bill

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  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,729
    Bobvan said:

    I remember why I 1st frequented this site when asking for a lot of tips in the early days. Someone shared a story where he showed his GF @ the time what he was doing. She said "so your basically playing with dolls" and broke up with him. My wife never cared.

    Pretty weird attitude. It's essentially Muppets or Theatre with real people aren't really that different.

  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,729
    sapat said:
    kyoto kid said:

    ...but where's the love for GI Joe and Stretch Armstrong?

    Even though I was a Barbie superfan, I also had GI Joe. He had painted on hair and that humungious dogtag. Like Barbie, he had stiff straight arms and legs. I remember stretch, but I had Gumby and Pokey. Good times. Wonder if someone here with decent modeling skills can make faux figures that can avoid infringment.
    Had many other dolls in the Barbie related clan, but Hasbro's Tressy was an oddball. She had hair you could grow and shorten. A button on her abdomen (think big belly button) you pressed while pulling a chunk of hair out of the top of her head which made it grow, and a spot at the base of her spine in back where you had to stuck in a metal key to wind it back down. "And it really really grows!"

    All this talk makes me want to work on a faux Barbie from G3 or G8, but use a morph for flat feet. I mean who can wear heels for 70 years.

    Edited to add GI Joe hair possibly from the UK, bu as Richard said, maybe adopted by the US. Surely DS can make better hair for him????

     

     

     

    LOL, looks like a sea urchin!

  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,729
    Redfern said:

    Yeah, the first mass release, circa 1959, possessed a steely eyed side glance with pursed lips as though plotting something.

    http://www.fashion-doll-guide.com/Number-One-and-Two-Ponytail-Vintage-Barbie-Doll.html

    And while I certainly agree with you on the comparison, if Pretty3D reads thes comments, that vendor will likely be gritting teeth in annoyance. indecision

    Sincerely,

    Bill

    Wow, those are pretty good. When I see them I think Doris Day looking away in annoyance at some slight.

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,859
    kyoto kid said:

    I've always liked barbie. I remember how excited we were when Mexican barbie was released, because hitherto my sister and I had no dark-haired barbies, except my black barbie. My sister of course got to play wtih her.

    My ken was luke skywalker, but I ruined him, by using the barbie that made kiss marks, and had her kiss his cheek. For some reason this kiss thing stained Luke's face.

    In the 80's dolls with hair for men came out, and I even had a hairband ken.

    I love barbies.

    I remember in the late 60s / early 70s my older brother's G.I. Joes dolls had "real" hair & (sometimes beards &/or mustaches (not sure why as US military as far as I know was no facial hair allowed). It was pretty real like buzz cut/flat top style hair. Watching them play army was how I learned to destroy the nice toy cars our nice neighbor kept giving me. blush

    ...

    Yes, thanks.

    I remember that was one of the G.I. Joe characters they had. I had forgotten about some of the joints though. Those dolls were indestructible, I know I tried. One thing I didn't notice though back then, and I guess being a toddler it's not surprising I didn't notice, was that G.I. Joe in the video you linked to is actually a pretty good likeness of John F Kennedy. 

    I also remember those little green soldiers they had. I had Barrel of Monkeys though if you've ever seen those. And those Round Peeple characters that became popular again in the last 10 years.

    ...ah yes the toy army men.  Still remember the adverts for them in comic books.

  • MimicMollyMimicMolly Posts: 2,322
    Redfern said:

    Yeah, the first mass release, circa 1959, possessed a steely eyed side glance with pursed lips as though plotting something.

    http://www.fashion-doll-guide.com/Number-One-and-Two-Ponytail-Vintage-Barbie-Doll.html

    And while I certainly agree with you on the comparison, if Pretty3D reads thes comments, that vendor will likely be gritting teeth in annoyance. indecision

    Sincerely,

    Bill

    And here I am, liking the Pretty3D character because she reminds me of the original Barbies. X'D

    Now if I can find a suitable "Ken".

  • sapatsapat Posts: 1,735
    Redfern said:

    Yeah, the first mass release, circa 1959, possessed a steely eyed side glance with pursed lips as though plotting something.

    http://www.fashion-doll-guide.com/Number-One-and-Two-Ponytail-Vintage-Barbie-Doll.html

    And while I certainly agree with you on the comparison, if Pretty3D reads thes comments, that vendor will likely be gritting teeth in annoyance. indecision

    Sincerely,

    Bill

    He probably would be miffed. I think even to this day he uses her, or an iteration of her, for promos.  

  • TimbalesTimbales Posts: 2,423

    Their new doll shape is interesting.

    The idea of a more customizable doll is smart on their part. I don't know if it will work like they think it should, but that might stray outside the bounds of discussion here.
    The more androgynous look is the right shape for pre/early-Tween figures.
    No dating at that age, so all those questions can be saved for Barbie and Ken, I think.

    I really do like the blonde one with the shaved sides & lightning bolts carved into the shaved part. It pings a certain "radar".
    (She also comes with a wig... boooooo.)

    I would get one of those for my desk at work.

    I think they are great. I think it fills an important gap in dolls. There seems to be a lot of baby dolls, then it jumps to late teens/adult dolls. Having ones that are just kids, with no specific gendered interests, is a good thing. 

  • PtropePtrope Posts: 696

    Working on "Kyle," the digital 'Ken' - texture is based on a solid color JPG for all skin materials, so I can use Skin Builder (through G3F) to add things like the freckles, eyeliner and nipples, then apply them to G3M. Not perfect, but evocative of Ken, at least.

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  • JOdelJOdel Posts: 6,316

    I had a number of Ginny dolls when I was a kid. That was a small doll (8 inches maybe?) which had posable arms and legs (no knee joints, I think). Not a baby shape, more like toddler to, oh, maybe a 4 or 5-year-old. Was a reasonable "puppet" type for acting out scenes with. The Betsy McCall doll was rather better for that purpose once it finally showed up. Shaped more like an elementary school child (although the head was way too big) and had knee joints.

  • wsterdanwsterdan Posts: 3,061
    Redfern said:

    Yeah, the first mass release, circa 1959, possessed a steely eyed side glance with pursed lips as though plotting something.

    http://www.fashion-doll-guide.com/Number-One-and-Two-Ponytail-Vintage-Barbie-Doll.html

    And while I certainly agree with you on the comparison, if Pretty3D reads thes comments, that vendor will likely be gritting teeth in annoyance. indecision

    Sincerely,

    Bill

    Wow, those are pretty good. When I see them I think Doris Day looking away in annoyance at some slight.

    I couldn't think of who she reminded me of until you said "Doris Day" and it clicked! Not Doris Day, she reminds me of Anne Francis.

    -- Walt Sterdan

  • wsterdanwsterdan Posts: 3,061
    Ptrope said:

    Working on "Kyle," the digital 'Ken' - texture is based on a solid color JPG for all skin materials, so I can use Skin Builder (through G3F) to add things like the freckles, eyeliner and nipples, then apply them to G3M. Not perfect, but evocative of Ken, at least.

    That's impressive! I like the idea of a flat base skin (I'm actually working  on something similar for some toons).

    -- Walt Sterdan

  • I know this isn't a Barbie but does anyone remember Jem and the holograms dolls they were 12" tall.

     

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  • sapatsapat Posts: 1,735

     

    JOdel said:

    I had a number of Ginny dolls when I was a kid. That was a small doll (8 inches maybe?) which had posable arms and legs (no knee joints, I think). Not a baby shape, more like toddler to, oh, maybe a 4 or 5-year-old. Was a reasonable "puppet" type for acting out scenes with. The Betsy McCall doll was rather better for that purpose once it finally showed up. Shaped more like an elementary school child (although the head was way too big) and had knee joints.

    Thank you!!!  I thought I was the only one who had Ginny dolls. Yes, they were 8".  She had her own little special clothes, and she had thick hair with bangs and a tightly rolled flip hair. I think she was about 4 yr old. My Ginny doll had hips, knees and shoulders that were like ball joint or 'strung' dolls.  I've searched all over the internet and can't find the one I had. 

  • JOdelJOdel Posts: 6,316
    edited October 2019

    Madam Alexander had a similar doll to a Ginny. Same size and I am pretty sure could wear the same clothing. Different face, however. I've forgotten what name they gave it. That might have been the Sissy doll that you or someone mentioned earlier.

    Once the Barbie was clearly knocking it out of the park Madam Alexander came out with an "adult" doll which was called Cisette. Roughly the same size as a Barbie (11 or 12 inches). I had one of those. She was *much* prettier than any Barbie of the day, and her porportions were idealized, but a good deal more realistic.

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  • CricketCricket Posts: 477
    wsterdan said:
    Redfern said:

    Yeah, the first mass release, circa 1959, possessed a steely eyed side glance with pursed lips as though plotting something.

    http://www.fashion-doll-guide.com/Number-One-and-Two-Ponytail-Vintage-Barbie-Doll.html

    And while I certainly agree with you on the comparison, if Pretty3D reads thes comments, that vendor will likely be gritting teeth in annoyance. indecision

    Sincerely,

    Bill

    Wow, those are pretty good. When I see them I think Doris Day looking away in annoyance at some slight.

    I couldn't think of who she reminded me of until you said "Doris Day" and it clicked! Not Doris Day, she reminds me of Anne Francis.

    -- Walt Sterdan

    She reminds me a little of Lucille Ball.

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