PA's obsession with lethal adornements to outfits

This doesn't go to any PA in special. The thing I reprove is all over the store. Lots of outfits, female as well as male, have parts with big, potentially lethal spikes. And much too often, these spikes are in a position, where the wearer is prone to hurt himself. Spikes all aroung the handcuffs - what do you think, happens, when the person lets her arms touch her body? Spiky parts of belts, which will penetrate the body if the person tries to bend. Spikes in a position where any battle movement will be hindered ore made impossible.

But my pet darling is the ring of spikes around the thigh. Legs are prone to touch each other during about any movement. And the thighs contain major blood vessels. Can you imagine what happens, if these said thigh's inside is shredded by adjacent spiky adornments?

Yeah, you get a very dead heroe very soon.

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  • TangoAlphaTangoAlpha Posts: 4,587

    It has an advantage: at least you wouldn't have to hunt for the body on the battlefield (lets face it, nobody wearing 99% of the armours on sale would survive any contact with an enemy...)

  • HylasHylas Posts: 5,223

    It's called "rule of cool": as long as it is/looks/sounds cool, it's good to go!

    As long as not every single outfit is like that I have no problems with this.

  • GordigGordig Posts: 10,600

    Complaints about too many of a certain type of item in the store are inherently frivolous, since you're under no obligation to buy or use anything. What would you like there to be more of?

  • IgnisSerpentusIgnisSerpentus Posts: 2,561
    Hylas said:

    It's called "rule of cool"

    So totally stealing that

     

  • cherpenbeckcherpenbeck Posts: 1,416

    Maybe I'm a bit too much "down to earth", but I use DAZ for Book Covers, and I love my heroes to survive their own gear. Even bikini armour is better than killing yourself the first moment you move.

    Yes, I do love sexy outfits sometimes, as much as anybody else who looks for eye-candy, just not on the battlefield, and just not made in a way which condems my figures to stay frozen on the spot.

    And yes again, I do know I don't have to use everything what is sold here. But every time I see an outfit I love, and then I register how lethal it actually is to it's wearer, I just think: "WHAT THE F... ?????????", and I don't buy (most of the time, except if it's easy to delete the spikes)

  • DripDrip Posts: 1,237

    Used to be quite a thing in the eighties, though those studs were generally not as sharp as they looked, and the inside of the legs was generally smartly left unadorned. Still, cray long and dangerous spikes did happen, a Metallica concert I visited in 1990 had a sign at the entrance: "spikes longer than 3 centimeters are not allowed inside". And there were some people who had to leave their jacket under custody because the spikes were too long. (wasn't a problem, as it was bloody hot inside anyway).

  • OdaaOdaa Posts: 1,548

    This doesn't go to any PA in special. The thing I reprove is all over the store. Lots of outfits, female as well as male, have parts with big, potentially lethal spikes. And much too often, these spikes are in a position, where the wearer is prone to hurt himself. Spikes all aroung the handcuffs - what do you think, happens, when the person lets her arms touch her body? Spiky parts of belts, which will penetrate the body if the person tries to bend. Spikes in a position where any battle movement will be hindered ore made impossible.

    But my pet darling is the ring of spikes around the thigh. Legs are prone to touch each other during about any movement. And the thighs contain major blood vessels. Can you imagine what happens, if these said thigh's inside is shredded by adjacent spiky adornments?

    Yeah, you get a very dead heroe very soon.

    That is one piece of the Yami Kawaii outfit that probably wouldn't get used in my artwork.

  • sapatsapat Posts: 1,735
    Odaa said:

    This doesn't go to any PA in special. The thing I reprove is all over the store. Lots of outfits, female as well as male, have parts with big, potentially lethal spikes. And much too often, these spikes are in a position, where the wearer is prone to hurt himself. Spikes all aroung the handcuffs - what do you think, happens, when the person lets her arms touch her body? Spiky parts of belts, which will penetrate the body if the person tries to bend. Spikes in a position where any battle movement will be hindered ore made impossible.

    But my pet darling is the ring of spikes around the thigh. Legs are prone to touch each other during about any movement. And the thighs contain major blood vessels. Can you imagine what happens, if these said thigh's inside is shredded by adjacent spiky adornments?

    Yeah, you get a very dead heroe very soon.

    That is one piece of the Yami Kawaii outfit that probably wouldn't get used in my artwork.

    The outfit is different and out there, but the spiked dog collar doesn't even seem necessary to make a point IMO. If she bends her knee any further in that one promo, she'd be a bloody mess (literally). 

  • AlmightyQUESTAlmightyQUEST Posts: 2,006

    Oh is THAT what all the fuss is about? That's hardly battle armor, and those spiked collars/bands are not as sharp as they look. That looks uncomfortable, sure, but not as much as the countless high heels in the store.

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 40,097

    I have seen real life stuff like that with rubber spikes esp chokers

  • nicsttnicstt Posts: 11,715

    Oh is THAT what all the fuss is about? That's hardly battle armor, and those spiked collars/bands are not as sharp as they look. That looks uncomfortable, sure, but not as much as the countless high heels in the store.

    Don't mention heals; I have to resitst the urge to rage-type.

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 40,097
    edited July 2019

    Looked more like what the name suggests a Japanese goth

    I have heard the term Yami Kawaii before and seen videos on it, depressed suicidal youth find comfort in it as a way of expressing themselves without harming

     

     

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  • OdaaOdaa Posts: 1,548

    Oh is THAT what all the fuss is about? That's hardly battle armor, and those spiked collars/bands are not as sharp as they look. That looks uncomfortable, sure, but not as much as the countless high heels in the store.

    I think I've seen "goth huntress" outfits where the wearer is assumed to be fighting vampires/werewolves/demons etc that had similar accessories, and I'm pretty sure I own  a post-apocalyptic outfit (came in a bundle of more useful stuff) that has a spiky anklet. So Yami Kawaii was maybe more the last straw for the OP than the only piece of clothing being discussed.

  • WinterMoonWinterMoon Posts: 2,015

    The spiked thigh-band is to remind the wearer to not keep their legs closed.

  • cherpenbeckcherpenbeck Posts: 1,416
    edited July 2019

    No. The item from today isn't the only one, not at all. Every DAZ Generation and gender has these nice little kill-yourselfs. Some examples:

    https://www.daz3d.com/she-freak-2-dark-paladins-styles   This one doesn't value her eyes

    https://www.daz3d.com/the-freak-accessories    Who needs an enemy to get shredded?

    https://www.daz3d.com/goth-jewelry-for-v4    Every step she's in danger of cutting her ancles

    https://www.daz3d.com/phoenix-for-genesis-2-female-s    She better never tries to bend

    https://www.daz3d.com/heavy-barbarian-for-genesis-3-male-s   Note how his hands are just in the right position to impale themselves on the pikes in his thighs

    https://www.daz3d.com/dragonsbane-barbarian-clothes-hd-for-genesis-3-male-s    If this one ever bows it gets really nasty

    https://www.daz3d.com/kentauros-centaur-outfit-textures    If he wants to survive until the next battle, he better starts to wear forearm protections and wrist gards

    https://www.daz3d.com/axoran-demonic-armor-regalia-for-genesis-8-males   This one - well, he better doesn't tilt his head too much

    So, no. I didn't berate only the new releases. They just triggered ...

    I have given up on always expecting pratical armour. or fighting boots for females without heels. And I do understand the PAs. The non-practical stuff looks much nicer, much more interesting, and subsequently sells better. But still, I expect my heroes not to commit suicide just by moving their body.
    Todays new release isn't so bad. At least I can delete the questionable item and use the rest.

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  • HylasHylas Posts: 5,223

    I admittedly haven't seen a spiked thigh band IRL. But spiked chokers, belts, and wrist bands were popular throughout the 80es and again in the early 00es. The spikes aren't sharp at all and you can't really hurt yourself with them. Not sure about wearing them into battle, but hey, rule of cool.

    clank clank clank every time he turns his head...

  • Yeah. The spiked thigh band is pretty hot. 

    laugh

    Thumbs up! I love costume!

  • No. The item from today isn't the only one, not at all. Every DAZ Generation and gender has these nice little kill-yourselfs. Some examples:

    https://www.daz3d.com/she-freak-2-dark-paladins-styles   This one doesn't value her eyes

    https://www.daz3d.com/the-freak-accessories    Who needs an enemy to get shredded?

    https://www.daz3d.com/goth-jewelry-for-v4    Every step she's in danger of cutting her ancles

    https://www.daz3d.com/phoenix-for-genesis-2-female-s    She better never tries to bend

    https://www.daz3d.com/heavy-barbarian-for-genesis-3-male-s   Note how his hands are just in the right position to impale themselves on the pikes in his thighs

    https://www.daz3d.com/dragonsbane-barbarian-clothes-hd-for-genesis-3-male-s    If this one ever bows it gets really nasty

    https://www.daz3d.com/kentauros-centaur-outfit-textures    If he wants to survive until the next battle, he better starts to wear forearm protections and wrist gards

    https://www.daz3d.com/axoran-demonic-armor-regalia-for-genesis-8-males   This one - well, he better doesn't tilt his head too much

    So, no. I didn't berate only the new releases. They just triggered ...

    I have given up on always expecting pratical armour. or fighting boots for females without heels. And I do understand the PAs. The non-practical stuff looks much nicer, much more interesting, and subsequently sells better. But still, I expect my heroes not to commit suicide just by moving their body.
    Todays new release isn't so bad. At least I can delete the questionable item and use the rest.

    OK..So what?  DON'T BUY THEM!!!

  • GordigGordig Posts: 10,600
    Hylas said:

    I admittedly haven't seen a spiked thigh band IRL. But spiked chokers, belts, and wrist bands were popular throughout the 80es and again in the early 00es. The spikes aren't sharp at all and you can't really hurt yourself with them. Not sure about wearing them into battle, but hey, rule of cool.

    clank clank clank every time he turns his head...

    Needs more pouches. 

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 40,097

    they exist

  • dracorndracorn Posts: 2,353
    edited July 2019

    they exist

    Yeeeowsa!

    I recall them saying in the making of Lord of the Rings that Sauran's spiked armor was too dangerous to do any action scenes.

     

    My pet peeve is armor pieces that are WAY too big to be practical.  Take the Kadis armor for example.  That pauldron has gotta weigh 30 pounds at least.  She wouldn't be able to lift her arm.  

    And don't forget weapons that are ridiculously too big - especially being wielded by women.  I once picked up a replica of William Wallace's claymore - I could barely lift the thing. 

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  • BeeMKayBeeMKay Posts: 7,019

    Perhaps not practical, but for certain type of artwork, they look extremely cool - they do need the exaggeration to 'pop'. No pun intended. wink

  • alexhcowleyalexhcowley Posts: 2,403

    Larry Niven, the American mathematician turned science fiction writer, once pointed out that fantasy can be as wildly unrealistic as you like as long as it is internally consistent - it must obey a set of internal rules.

    Realism jumps out of the window, screaming in terror, the moment fantasy walks in through the door.

    Cheers,

    Alex.

  • cherpenbeckcherpenbeck Posts: 1,416

    Okay, flying dragons aren't realistic as well. It's not about realism with books (and covers). It's about keeping your reader in a plausible world. The moment he notices something is off, that's the moment he leaves the story. And if that happens too often, the reader is lost, the author won't sell another book to him.

  • DripDrip Posts: 1,237

    Okay, flying dragons aren't realistic as well. It's not about realism with books (and covers). It's about keeping your reader in a plausible world. The moment he notices something is off, that's the moment he leaves the story. And if that happens too often, the reader is lost, the author won't sell another book to him.

    See Alexhcowley's reference from Larry Niven: as long as the implausible is consistent within the setting, it doesn't matter, and the readers' interest in the book only relies on the readers' interest in the genre as a whole. It's when things become inconsistent in plausibility that readers leave the story. You can't have flying pigs one moment and for no apparent reason not allow them to fly anymore in the next chapter.

  • ANGELREAPER1972ANGELREAPER1972 Posts: 4,555

    still pretty common to wear spikes, chains and nails

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  • chris-2599934chris-2599934 Posts: 1,904
    edited July 2019

    I do like the heavy barbarian outfit.

    Picture the scene: Our band of noble warriors are in the great hall, kneeling to swear fealty to the High King of Dazheim. Then, when it's time to get up and go fight the evil hordes of the Rendo orc city, the barbarian pipes up "Err... guys, does anyone have a crowbar? My knees have become nailed to the floor..."

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  • cherpenbeckcherpenbeck Posts: 1,416

    The heavier the barbarian, the deeper the nails go   laugh

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  • LeanaLeana Posts: 12,759
    Picture the scene: Our band of noble warriors are in the great hall, kneeling to swear fealty to the High King of Dazheim. Then, when it's time to get up and go fight the evil hordes of the Rendo orc city, the barbarian pipes up "Err... guys, does anyone have a crowbar? My knees have become nailed to the floor..."

    laughlaugh

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