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  • The Blurst of TimesThe Blurst of Times Posts: 2,410
    edited June 2019

     

    AllenArt said:

    Thanks.I'll give it a try :). Pretty renders too btw :)

    Laurie

     

    Thanks! These are fairly quick spot renders to show off the model, but I do try to keep them interesting.

     

    Habulin Dati said:
    DigitalSteam said:
    Malandar said:
    Cybersox said:

    ... the only really awful item is the Iron Warrio0r armopr... I mean, armor that covers everyplace EXCEPT the ones where a snjgle sword or arrow penetration can kill you?  Someone at DAZ must REALLY hate women. 

    ... But I agree with you about the armor, the armor is pretty much what made me decide not to get the pro bundle.

    There's a lot of armour in market that's not too strenuously realistic, but this set... Holy cow.  Not just no protection in vital areas, but what are those giant bizarre knee cops on her hips and shoulders? How does she _not_ slice her elbow open on the weird lames sticking out from the hip one? Why are there actual (dull, but actual) scythe blades poised to dig into her hip bones the first time she gets hit or bumped in any way there? Is that an ear horn over her sternum so she can whisper to her heart that she's sorry for not protecting it, as it catches every weapon coming her way? Why does she have six guide rails around her shoulders to guarantee no strike that comes at those areas accidentally glances off?

    I know not everyone knows everything about ancient armour, and I know sometimes creativity trumps realism, and that's cool too... But I don't honestly recall the last time a set of armour made me scratch my head and say "Dude, what the actual f**k." with such fervor, and in as many different ways. 

    The Iron Warrior for G8 females is actually created by a group of artists: Daz Originals, Bluebird, Moonscape Graphics, Ravenhair, and Sade. There is a lot of people involved in it's content creation. I don't know exactly know who the brainchild is but the final outcome speaks for itself.

    I am not sure what they are trying to do with this outfit, or want us to do with it. It looks fashionable though especially when another set of shaders is applied. But I wouldn't use it to defend a character from a formidable opponent or enemy.

     

    Iron Warrior does somewhat evoke the Lady of Pain from Dungeons & Dragons. I actually like that weird fantasy aspect.

    Impractical and weird armor is good if it's stupidly lingerie-ish enough. There just aren't enough Surfaces to zero out to make it more naughty. It would've been nice to fine tune the Bust cups, for instance, since the Daz store has a certain coverage requirement (not that I'm complaining - it's Daz's store. Some outfits are more able to get around those requirements than others, however).

    Losing the pants helps IMO. If you're going to go impractical, why not embrace it fully?

    I did remove the Bust cups and added back a tube top from another outfit just because.

    Why aren't the Wings dForce elements? I added dForce modifiers to the wing cloth in this image.

    EDIT: This is like 65% Ellithia and 35% Aiko, by the way, because I hardly ever use 100% of anything.

    EDIT 2: Ugh, now that I'm looking at it, the Wings separated from the iron bits during the dForce simulation. Maybe I'll just lose those cloth bits and add my own...

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  • P A Y A T PP A Y A T P Posts: 1,181
    The Blurst of Times said:

     

    AllenArt said:

    Thanks.I'll give it a try :). Pretty renders too btw :)

    Laurie

     

    Thanks! These are fairly quick spot renders to show off the model, but I do try to keep them interesting.

     

    Habulin Dati said:
    DigitalSteam said:
    Malandar said:
    Cybersox said:

    ... the only really awful item is the Iron Warrio0r armopr... I mean, armor that covers everyplace EXCEPT the ones where a snjgle sword or arrow penetration can kill you?  Someone at DAZ must REALLY hate women. 

    ... But I agree with you about the armor, the armor is pretty much what made me decide not to get the pro bundle.

    There's a lot of armour in market that's not too strenuously realistic, but this set... Holy cow.  Not just no protection in vital areas, but what are those giant bizarre knee cops on her hips and shoulders? How does she _not_ slice her elbow open on the weird lames sticking out from the hip one? Why are there actual (dull, but actual) scythe blades poised to dig into her hip bones the first time she gets hit or bumped in any way there? Is that an ear horn over her sternum so she can whisper to her heart that she's sorry for not protecting it, as it catches every weapon coming her way? Why does she have six guide rails around her shoulders to guarantee no strike that comes at those areas accidentally glances off?

    I know not everyone knows everything about ancient armour, and I know sometimes creativity trumps realism, and that's cool too... But I don't honestly recall the last time a set of armour made me scratch my head and say "Dude, what the actual f**k." with such fervor, and in as many different ways. 

    The Iron Warrior for G8 females is actually created by a group of artists: Daz Originals, Bluebird, Moonscape Graphics, Ravenhair, and Sade. There is a lot of people involved in it's content creation. I don't know exactly know who the brainchild is but the final outcome speaks for itself.

    I am not sure what they are trying to do with this outfit, or want us to do with it. It looks fashionable though especially when another set of shaders is applied. But I wouldn't use it to defend a character from a formidable opponent or enemy.

     

    Iron Warrior does somewhat evoke the Lady of Pain from Dungeons & Dragons. I actually like that weird fantasy aspect.

    Impractical and weird armor is good if it's stupidly lingerie-ish enough. There just aren't enough Surfaces to zero out to make it more naughty. It would've been nice to fine tune the Bust cups, for instance, since the Daz store has a certain coverage requirement (not that I'm complaining - it's Daz's store. Some outfits are more able to get around those requirements than others, however).

    Losing the pants helps IMO. If you're going to go impractical, why not embrace it fully?

    I did remove the Bust cups and added back a tube top from another outfit just because.

    Why aren't the Wings dForce elements? I added dForce modifiers to the wing cloth in this image.

    EDIT: This is like 65% Ellithia and 35% Aiko, by the way, because I hardly ever use 100% of anything.

    Nice render! She looks like wearing a "national costume" in a beauty pagent. Or a model in a catwalk. Definitely not battle ready lol 

  • The Blurst of TimesThe Blurst of Times Posts: 2,410
    Habulin Dati said:

    Nice render! She looks like wearing a "national costume" in a beauty pagent. Or a model in a catwalk. Definitely not battle ready lol 

     

    Ha, yes, it's an odd duck of a costume. I actually like it, but I wish they took a harder turn towards the naughty/weird rather than covering up so much. It does better with more skin showing.

    It does seem like something of a hodge podge of styles, although there are good ideas in there.

  • nicsttnicstt Posts: 11,715

    I was looking for a reason to purchase the bundle, but not bothered about the poses; don't like the style of clothes and have no interest in the hair - strand dforce hair would have tempted me.

    ... Ahh well, I get to keep my cash, which is always nice.

  • Gr00vusGr00vus Posts: 372

    She looks like Carice Van Houten.

  • OdaaOdaa Posts: 1,548
    edited June 2019

    I'm the reverse on Iron Warrior: with better chest coverage, no random skin show on the waist and hips, regular pants without the loincloth thing, shorter heels, and it would be a pleasantly baroque fantasy armor of a type we don't see that much of for women, and an active reason for buying the bundle. I think this is a case where trying to take a middle of the road approach on the design didn't work out.

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  • CybersoxCybersox Posts: 9,401

    I had the gift card banner/ victoria 20 bonus offer as well, so with a couple of the extra character packs (and a massive pile of other stuff) it was impossible to pass on the Pro bundle at an effective price of $29.03.  Haven't had a chance to use any of it yet, though, and only finally downloaded it last night... just way too much to do versus too little time. :/ 

  • AllenArtAllenArt Posts: 7,175
    Gr00vus said:

    She looks like Carice Van Houten.

    That's exactly what I thought. LOL

    Laurie

  • GafftheHorseGafftheHorse Posts: 567
    Gr00vus said:

    She looks like Carice Van Houten.

    Millhouses mom from The Simpsons?

  • P A Y A T PP A Y A T P Posts: 1,181

    I wonder how she would look with braids and Eleyna outfit. 

  • 3Diva3Diva Posts: 11,981
    edited June 2019

    She mixes nicely with others, I think. Here's mix of Ellithia 8 (dialled in at 50%) and Victoria 8 (dialled in at 50%) with the eye size increased a tiny bit.

     

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  • ALLIEKATBLUEALLIEKATBLUE Posts: 2,983

    Here's 2 quickies of Maya 

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  • EllessarrEllessarr Posts: 1,395

    going a little OT for the peoples which where complain over "non skimp armor here a new one practical armor

    https://www.daz3d.com/maid-at-arms-armor-for-genesis-8-females

     

    about the elithia skimp armor, if you want you can add a "cloth under the skimp part like some armors

    here a exemple:

    regular skimp armor:

     

    armor with a "undercloth" to remove the skimp

     

     

    is not tha hard to fix it, the real problem is to fixe the "annoying high heels that are a true pain.

  • The Blurst of TimesThe Blurst of Times Posts: 2,410
    edited June 2019
    GafftheHorse said:
    Gr00vus said:

    She looks like Carice Van Houten.

    Millhouses mom from The Simpsons?

    The night is dark and full of terrors.

    (Terrible palette swap, but I didn't want to waste time on it.)

    .......

    One more render out of the pro bundle. Lyssa, this time. I really need to make a few new background images...

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  • ALLIEKATBLUEALLIEKATBLUE Posts: 2,983

    She does mix nicely with others.   Here is a mix with Kala 8 and RY Tessa's skin

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  • sapatsapat Posts: 1,735
    ALLIEKATBLUE said:

    She does mix nicely with others.   Here is a mix with Kala 8 and RY Tessa's skin

    She looks really lovely.  

  • EJWorksEJWorks Posts: 483
    edited June 2019
    ALLIEKATBLUE said:

    She does mix nicely with others.   Here is a mix with Kala 8 and RY Tessa's skin

    She looks great. I've been picking up a lot of bundles and spending more money then I should lately, so I'm going to pass on her for now. But I did get the goddess braides and plan on getting her base and some of her character add-ons in the future.

    Maya and Dysis both stand out a lot more to me than Ellithia and the add-ons in her bundle. I don't dislike any of them, they just look too much like figures I already have to get super enthusistic about. I have enjoyed the renders posted so far and hope to see some more.

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  • ArtiniArtini Posts: 10,407
    edited June 2019

    Elitia - The Sprite Lady

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  • The Blurst of TimesThe Blurst of Times Posts: 2,410
    edited June 2019
    Artini said:

    Elitia - The Sprite Lady

    Nice! Lighting work is pretty.

    .......

    One more quickie. 50% Ellithia, 25% Charlotte, 25% Aiko, plus a couple quick dial turns.

    The Psy-Dagger stuff threw off too much blue light in this, so she's a little smurfy.

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  • SadeSade Posts: 883
    The Blurst of Times said:
     

    Iron Warrior does somewhat evoke the Lady of Pain from Dungeons & Dragons. I actually like that weird fantasy aspect.

    Impractical and weird armor is good if it's stupidly lingerie-ish enough. There just aren't enough Surfaces to zero out to make it more naughty. It would've been nice to fine tune the Bust cups, for instance, since the Daz store has a certain coverage requirement (not that I'm complaining - it's Daz's store. Some outfits are more able to get around those requirements than others, however).

    Losing the pants helps IMO. If you're going to go impractical, why not embrace it fully?

    I did remove the Bust cups and added back a tube top from another outfit just because.

    Why aren't the Wings dForce elements? I added dForce modifiers to the wing cloth in this image.

    EDIT: This is like 65% Ellithia and 35% Aiko, by the way, because I hardly ever use 100% of anything.

    EDIT 2: Ugh, now that I'm looking at it, the Wings separated from the iron bits during the dForce simulation. Maybe I'll just lose those cloth bits and add my own...

    hullo

    Blue was the modeller. I made the textures, and Moonscape Graphics made the daz implementatiotn. The idea was i think the Daz team, since it was commission (but im not sure in it)

    My version of the female armor is much more boring and simple (but practical): https://www.daz3d.com/maid-at-arms-armor-for-genesis-8-females. Hopwever i love worked on the iron warrior so much, so i hope you will find it useable. (the pants good itself too, its not visible, but i made pattern on them too)

  • EllessarrEllessarr Posts: 1,395
    sade said:
    The Blurst of Times said:
     

    Iron Warrior does somewhat evoke the Lady of Pain from Dungeons & Dragons. I actually like that weird fantasy aspect.

    Impractical and weird armor is good if it's stupidly lingerie-ish enough. There just aren't enough Surfaces to zero out to make it more naughty. It would've been nice to fine tune the Bust cups, for instance, since the Daz store has a certain coverage requirement (not that I'm complaining - it's Daz's store. Some outfits are more able to get around those requirements than others, however).

    Losing the pants helps IMO. If you're going to go impractical, why not embrace it fully?

    I did remove the Bust cups and added back a tube top from another outfit just because.

    Why aren't the Wings dForce elements? I added dForce modifiers to the wing cloth in this image.

    EDIT: This is like 65% Ellithia and 35% Aiko, by the way, because I hardly ever use 100% of anything.

    EDIT 2: Ugh, now that I'm looking at it, the Wings separated from the iron bits during the dForce simulation. Maybe I'll just lose those cloth bits and add my own...

    hullo

    Blue was the modeller. I made the textures, and Moonscape Graphics made the daz implementatiotn. The idea was i think the Daz team, since it was commission (but im not sure in it)

    My version of the female armor is much more boring and simple (but practical): https://www.daz3d.com/maid-at-arms-armor-for-genesis-8-females. Hopwever i love worked on the iron warrior so much, so i hope you will find it useable. (the pants good itself too, its not visible, but i made pattern on them too)

    to be fair i'm not really that big against "non-practical armors, as long it don't look too "weird" i have my limites, for exemple in this armor iron armor case, the only real isseu for me are that things around her hip, if they where just plains, or just the "bottom" then they could be fine, but the top make it looks too weird as a armor, because the user can really hut himself with it and also the famous "high heels,, well, they speak for themselfs how much troublesome can be fight using a plate armor in a high heels, while for "regular cloths it could be fine for a warrior is really weird, specially the "really hig heels", the skimp part for me is not that a big issue cuz you can use some "undercloths to hide the revealing parts and turn it in a very practical armor whe comes to "skimp", the only real thing which really looks weird is really that hip protector on it, but is a fantasy armor then ok we get it for some "pose render can be fine" but for a fantasy action web comic or something like that it can really look distracting(not talking about games),

    overal the armor looks good it would need just some tweaks to turn it more "practical".

  • ArtiniArtini Posts: 10,407

    Thanks a lot, The Blurst of Times.

    Your image looks nicely.

     

  • The Blurst of TimesThe Blurst of Times Posts: 2,410
    edited June 2019
    sade said:
    The Blurst of Times said:
     

    Iron Warrior does somewhat evoke the Lady of Pain from Dungeons & Dragons. I actually like that weird fantasy aspect.

    Impractical and weird armor is good if it's stupidly lingerie-ish enough. There just aren't enough Surfaces to zero out to make it more naughty. It would've been nice to fine tune the Bust cups, for instance, since the Daz store has a certain coverage requirement (not that I'm complaining - it's Daz's store. Some outfits are more able to get around those requirements than others, however).

    Losing the pants helps IMO. If you're going to go impractical, why not embrace it fully?

    I did remove the Bust cups and added back a tube top from another outfit just because.

    Why aren't the Wings dForce elements? I added dForce modifiers to the wing cloth in this image.

    EDIT: This is like 65% Ellithia and 35% Aiko, by the way, because I hardly ever use 100% of anything.

    EDIT 2: Ugh, now that I'm looking at it, the Wings separated from the iron bits during the dForce simulation. Maybe I'll just lose those cloth bits and add my own...

     

    hullo

    Blue was the modeller. I made the textures, and Moonscape Graphics made the daz implementatiotn. The idea was i think the Daz team, since it was commission (but im not sure in it)

    My version of the female armor is much more boring and simple (but practical): https://www.daz3d.com/maid-at-arms-armor-for-genesis-8-females. Hopwever i love worked on the iron warrior so much, so i hope you will find it useable. (the pants good itself too, its not visible, but i made pattern on them too)

    I do like this armor set... but I am more of a fan of impractical armor sets. I like silly armor a lot, and sexy armor most of all. So, I don't quite want to use the pants!
    I liked this armor enough to buy the texture set, and I'm sure I'm not the only one who liked this one. The additional textures are quite nice.

    Here's the Gold set with some additional kit-bashing elements (the Fantasy Barbarian shin guards & boots, plus Minerva sword). Really nice details on the Thigh armor! The metallic pieces have a really good, worn look to them.
    IMO, the worst part of this armor would be the Wing cloths. They don't really move at all, and the cloth elements should ahve been dForce in my opinion.

    (The figure is my own dial spins, and not Ellithia at all. This was just for the armor. I could have done more with the hair, but I'm just testing how this looks anyway.)

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  • EllessarrEllessarr Posts: 1,395

    one questions for peoples which have bought it, how it is armor poly count??? in its "base" no high definition", its above 100k quad????, if possible i would love to have a number for each piece, because it can help me decide if i will buy it or no.

  • DripDrip Posts: 1,243

    Must be fair though: medieval knights DID wear boots with high heels, though they were not stiletto's, but block heels. Supposedly to allow them to safely stand up in the styrups.

    On the other hand, medieval knights did NOT wear shiny metallic armor. They died their armor to protect it from rain and dirt. The shiny metal became vogue in the 18th century, to put them on display. Many armors were scrubbed thoroughly and lost their original paint job in the process. Many armors dug up later lost the little paint that was left on them because excavators were unfamiliar with the practice of painted armors, and mistook the paint for dirt.

  • nelsonsmithnelsonsmith Posts: 1,337

    I didn't necessarily find myself wowed by her bundle, but the figure itself is very impressive and rates a buy.  Especially when I think back to the time when you couldn't get PA's to attempt  any mature figures and the only time they did resulted in models that looked one of the Weird Sister's from Macbeth.

  • The Blurst of TimesThe Blurst of Times Posts: 2,410

    One more item from the bundle (this is not Ellithia... one of my dial spins). This is the dForce Harmonia outfit.

    It uses dForce very nicely. There are the arm loopies along with the dress! Very pretty! (I wish the Wings in the Iron Warrior outfit were like those arm loopies! I'll have to make my own...)

     

    .

  • EllessarrEllessarr Posts: 1,395
    edited June 2019
    Drip said:

    Must be fair though: medieval knights DID wear boots with high heels, though they were not stiletto's, but block heels. Supposedly to allow them to safely stand up in the styrups.

    On the other hand, medieval knights did NOT wear shiny metallic armor. They died their armor to protect it from rain and dirt. The shiny metal became vogue in the 18th century, to put them on display. Many armors were scrubbed thoroughly and lost their original paint job in the process. Many armors dug up later lost the little paint that was left on them because excavators were unfamiliar with the practice of painted armors, and mistook the paint for dirt.

    well the majority of medieval armors don't had the high heels only some of then and the ones which had is you told where like that:

     

    in most of the cases where like that:

     

    that forms are fine for combat and mount

     

    but the problem are that "fantasy styles" which really are terrible impractical

    or that

    it's really become hard to see someone running or fighting in a "medieval fantasy settings" with it at last for me, i don't have too much problem with skimp armors(most of the times, sometimes when basically almost every armor is a skimp one then it's really start to get weird for me) because with the right tweaks it can be fixed the problem for me comes really to the high heels.

     

    They are only "good" if the woman is trying to use it to "stab the enemie while kicking him.

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  • GylandGyland Posts: 55

    Hi, In My Daz 3d Library folder in folder data/DAZ 3D/Genesis 8/Female/Morphs/DAZ 3D/Ellithia 8 there are many morphs that are dedicated to Ellithia but I can’t find them when I open up Daz3d and load Ellithia. Has anybody found them I am on a Mac?

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  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 108,777

    Those are hidden morphs - they are triggered when the morph is set and (for most of those) an expression is applied so that the expression works with the Elithia shape. They do their stuff in the background, they aren't something you need to set. There are a lot of hidden morphs adjusting for posing and the interaction of two shapes - if you enable Show Hidden Properties in the Parameters pane option menu (the lined button in the top corner, or right-click the tab) you will be ablet o see them.

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