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Immortal Elegance

dannagiusy64dannagiusy64 Posts: 477
edited May 2019 in The Commons

I bought this car.
https://www.daz3d.com/immortal-elegance
with its materials
https://www.daz3d.com/immortal-elegance-upgrade-pack
I cannot apply the materials of the bodywork except those in the upholstery of the seats. If I try to apply them the car turns white and the initial red base is opaque. Even the chrome looks like plastic. Can anyone explain why? thank you

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  • dannagiusy64dannagiusy64 Posts: 477

    Here's what I mean. If I apply any material it becomes so

    Schermata 2019-05-03 alle 18.27.20.png
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  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 40,331

    If they are procedural 3Delight shaders they will only show when rendered with the 3Delight engine not in the viewport or with iray

    its old predating DS4 so certainly 3Delight and Poser matts

  • AllenArtAllenArt Posts: 7,175
    edited May 2019

    They aren't procedural - at least not all of them. Not sure how you made it all gray as I have this car and it shows with the red texture map (tho it looks pretty crappy in Iray, granted). You can use the chrome (nickel) in the iray uber shader for the bumpers and other chrome bits, and if you have RSSY's 3DL to Iray converter, this should help quite a bit. If not, you'll have to tweak each material by hand.

    The image was after only 5 minutes of material tweaking.

    Laurie

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  • dannagiusy64dannagiusy64 Posts: 477

    Thanks for the reply. As you can see in 3Delight, rendering is like this

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  • AllenArtAllenArt Posts: 7,175

    Hmm...how did you install it? I'd uninstall and reinstall before I tried anything else.

    Laurie

  • dannagiusy64dannagiusy64 Posts: 477

    Thank you. I saw that I was able to manually modify the body and the chromatic objects. I think I will buy the product you recommended. occhiolino 

    AllenArt said:

    They aren't procedural - at least not all of them. Not sure how you made it all gray as I have this car and it shows with the red texture map (tho it looks pretty crappy in Iray, granted). You can use the chrome (nickel) in the iray uber shader for the bumpers and other chrome bits, and if you have RSSY's 3DL to Iray converter, this should help quite a bit. If not, you'll have to tweak each material by hand.

    The image was after only 5 minutes of material tweaking.

    Laurie

     

  • dannagiusy64dannagiusy64 Posts: 477

    But the problem of the flames on the textures I purchased remains. They do not apply

  • Sven DullahSven Dullah Posts: 7,621
    edited May 2019

    Those are customshaders so will not show textures in the viewport. I just rendered it and it works fine for me. Did you add a skydome? If you just render the car with a transparent background there will be no reflections, so it will look weird. Did you use the camera headlight? This is what it would look like if you have turned it off? Or if you have a light loaded but turned off light visibility.

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  • Sven DullahSven Dullah Posts: 7,621
    edited May 2019

    With a skydome and a distant light:

    image

    With visibility off for the dome and light:

    image

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  • Sven DullahSven Dullah Posts: 7,621

    ...a little more serious attempt:

  • dannagiusy64dannagiusy64 Posts: 477

    Yes, the idea was to do it with the transparent background because I have one of my own to put on. So if I don't add the sky it doesn't work? 

    Sven Dullah said:

    Those are customshaders so will not show textures in the viewport. I just rendered it and it works fine for me. Did you add a skydome? If you just render the car with a transparent background there will be no reflections, so it will look weird. Did you use the camera headlight? This is what it would look like if you have turned it off? Or if you have a light loaded but turned off light visibility.

     

  • dannagiusy64dannagiusy64 Posts: 477

    My idea is this. I did a test by replacing the materials manually. I wanted to add a background of mine purchased on dephositphoto

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  • dannagiusy64dannagiusy64 Posts: 477

    Very beautiful. Congratulations

    Sven Dullah said:

    ...a little more serious attempt:

     

  • MisselthwaiteMisselthwaite Posts: 961
    Sven Dullah said:

    ...a little more serious attempt:

     

    That looks fantastic, Sven!  Is that standard 3Delight, or the Awe shaders in action?

  • Sven DullahSven Dullah Posts: 7,621
    edited May 2019
    dannagiusy64 said:

    Yes, the idea was to do it with the transparent background because I have one of my own to put on. So if I don't add the sky it doesn't work? 

    Sven Dullah said:

    Those are customshaders so will not show textures in the viewport. I just rendered it and it works fine for me. Did you add a skydome? If you just render the car with a transparent background there will be no reflections, so it will look weird. Did you use the camera headlight? This is what it would look like if you have turned it off? Or if you have a light loaded but turned off light visibility.

     

    Well that's in 3DL, it will work but will look kind of dull as there is nothing to reflect. However, you can add a dome and make it invisible while still producing raytraced reflections, you need to apply the OmUberSurface and turn on Fantom.

    dannagiusy64 said:

    My idea is this. I did a test by replacing the materials manually. I wanted to add a background of mine purchased on dephositphoto

    It sems you got it worked out then;) Happy rendering!

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  • Sven DullahSven Dullah Posts: 7,621
    Misselthwaite said:
    Sven Dullah said:

    ...a little more serious attempt:

     

    That looks fantastic, Sven!  Is that standard 3Delight, or the Awe shaders in action?

    Tks, aweSurface;)

  • diegodom81diegodom81 Posts: 2

    I have the same issue and cant follow your suggestions. How do you make it look good then, what would be the  procedure?

  • Sven DullahSven Dullah Posts: 7,621
    diegodom81 said:

    I have the same issue and cant follow your suggestions. How do you make it look good then, what would be the  procedure?

    So what did you try, and what rendering engine are you using?

  • HoroHoro Posts: 11,421
    edited January 2020

    Works even in Bryce Imortal Elegance and 1936 AM Sedan. Backdrop is a Garage Open HDRI from the Practical Bryce 7.1 Pro - Volume 1.

    Two cars

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