Caprice and V8 Thank You Discount
Tynkere
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Early as I get into my morning coffee, but not sure the following adds up.
“Exclusive Offer for Vicky Owners - get 20% off”
Product is 30% off. It retails for $44.95
30% + 20% = 50%
50% of $44.95 = $22.475 (round up to $22.46 or so.)
Why does cart say 44% and $25.17 ?
Where did the 6% go? Sorry if I seem picky. I’ve always enjoyed math, so just curious if I’m missing something.
I didn't see anything about 'save up to 20% or 'total discount may not exceed.." So just curious. What am I missing?
thanks
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DAZ discounts don't work that way ... the percent off does not add together. Take 30% off the 44.95 = 31.47 then take the 20% from that
31.47 with 20% off = 25.18
While we're on the subject of Caprice: Whom does she resemble? I know the face, but I can't place the name.
bit of Kourtney Kardashian maybe?
I suck at faces
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Laughs. Well that's an interesting way of doing it. Have to keep that in mind. They seem to have it down to a science. Just getting character + hair (hair for around 25 and I get a free character) Add those two and of course it's more...
@Wendy_Carrara suggestion as good as any. Maybe the hairstyle?
Yeah, guys do get short thrift. Don't see any "Thanks for supporting Mike Pro" or "We Noticed you have Lee 7" -- If I got a banner for Lee 8 -- don't remember it.
Anyway, thanks for replies. Still on the fence. Had a lot of fun with "Leony V8" but hair getting more expensive. Basically hair + free character (or how I might rationalize it when I'm fully awake!)
thanks!
--Bruce
If you add up the %s, DAZ would have to worry about scenarios where you get 100% off. Like in the December sale you could have a base 25% loyalty discount. I'm pretty sure there were scenarios where two or more discounts were also in play (like PC DAZ original discount plus new release plus discount for buying multiple new releases). Not hard to hit 100% that way [well, not impossible anyway].
You can convert it into a math formula by multiplying the percentages that you pay. 70% * 80% = 56% paid, 44% off.
As we have pointed out on numerous previous occasions, the way the store combines separate discounts - in this case 20% and 30% - is the correct way to combine them. If other places have added the 30 and the 20 to get 50 then they have done it wrong. If the discounts should combine that way the fomal description would be adding another 20 percentage points, though Daz would usually say replace the 30% discount with a 50% discount for such a promotion.
Well I didn't know it. Sorry. Now that I understand, if you think the question is just cluttering up the forum, I've no problem with it being deleted. Learned how discounts works, so no biggie. : )
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Agreed.
Sometimes the wording isn't quite right, but that happens rarely; although, I would prefer the term 'further' and not 'extra'. Why? Because when I buy a product with 50% extra; content it is added to the original amount in the same container.
Further suggests it happens at some later time; extra suggests at the same time.
I was taking issue with the oft-repeated assertion that this is some kind of special "Daz maths", being puzzled and asking for an explanation is fine.
Agreed. While this is the default way DAZ looks at it, I work in retail and have seen it both ways in our stores and usually the wording is the key to it.
Despite getting a deal at a sporting goods place the other day when it was originally 40% off and they added another 20% (sign said an extra 20% off) off which did bring it to 60% off at the register, I now know what to expect with DAZ percentages off despite other experiences elsewhere.
i cant add anything else to the conversation, but the text box keeps popping up with a quote and I cant get rid of it without posting something.
That happens to me all the time. You can go to the little gear at the top of your window (on the blue bar), then to "drafts," then delete the drafts. That should clear it.
Agreed, There are so many names PAs can pick. There should only be one character with that name, at least within a generation. It can get very confusing in parameters.
Seems a bit capricious.
I have to respectfully disagree. There is absolutely no way that the way DAZ combines percentages is the right way. When you use the word "extra", you're implying adding to an original amount. That original amount would be the "20%", so the total should be 50%, period. Any other interpretation will lead to confusion as proven time and again. Also, saying others are doing it incorrectly when it's the proper way to do it is quite the overreach.
Having said that, DAZ can do whatever discounts however they like. But their wording is not correct in the least.
Extra (definition):
added to an existing or usual amount or number
Note how the definition does not say multiplied. It says "added".
To further add to the confusion, here's the definition of discount:
The noun discount refers to an amount or percentage deducted from the normal selling price of something
From the "normal selling price".
No, it is how math works. If a store offers you an extra 50% off of items already marked down 50%, they are not giving you the items for free.
It was Reby Sky that Caprice reminded me of.
Since both products were released fairly shortly from each other, they were both in production at the same time and likely both were submitted before either of them even hit the store. Different people test the products so they might have not even known that two characters with the same name were being processed and tested. A very unusual occurrence for sure and not likely to happen again anytime soon.
To change the name of a character after it's been created is crazy difficult and hugely time-consuming. Every single texture, makeup, and file has to be renamed, every morph has to be remade and renamed, if you have made JCMs or MCMs those have to be redone too, shape presets and character preset has to be remade, every material preset has to be reset up and remade, icons and tip files changed/renamed, if promo images have the name of the character on them that has to be redone, etc etc. It's nearly like starting over from scratch to set up a character again if you have to rename everything. Then you have to resubmit the character and go through the lengthy submission process again and the testing period again (which can sometimes take weeks depending on how busy the testers are), etc.
Forcing one of the PAs to, essentially, start over again would have been a pretty unreasonable request, imo.
I’m pretty sure that at one a point, one character I had rewrote over another so maybe the first thing PAs should do before they even start is ask if that name is already taken...
I'm not sure what you mean by "one character I had rewrote over another". I don't know how that could happen.
And again, they were released only four days from each other - the submission and testing process can take weeks, so when they were submitted and put through the process that name was not taken at the time. As I said, I'm sure this is a very unusual occurrence and coincidence that two characters with the same name were submitted at the same time. The odds of that happening are very slim, so this is likely just an odd and very rare occurrence.
There was a situation where one character rewrote over another in parameters because they had the exact same name. Can’t remember which one it was though. What I meant is, the PA could contact their Daz rep and ask if there’s a character named whatever already in production before they even name their character and the rep could check. So if all names were checked before the PA even started, then you wouldn’t have this problem and confusion...
You may be thinking of Ryker? He was released with Vladimir 8, then a PC+ character called Ryker was released which overwrote it in the content library - that one was renamed to "FWSA Ryker" so that they could co-exist.
Hmm I just tried saving a G8F character with the exact same name as an existing G8F character, loaded them both onto a scene and neither of them "rewrote over" the other one, so I'm not sure how that's possible how one of your characters got wrote over with another one? Maybe if they were saved in the exact same location in the exact same file? But the PAs save their characters in their own individual character files. So I'm not sure how one would be able to overwrite another one. *shrug*
Considering how many different people are working on testing products and their workload it's pretty unrealistic to expect them all to keep in constant contact with each other with the names of the products currently being tested - considering how rare it must be to have two products submitted at the same time with the exact same name. And technically, one is just Caprice and the other is RY Caprice for Victoria 8. I'm not sure that it's an issue enough to warrant the added workload of having the testers being in constant contact with all the other testers over the currently being tested products names and PAs having to check with Daz testers to see if there are any products currently being tested with the exact name they want to use each time they make a new character. Most (all?) PAs check the store to see if something is released that has a name they want to use, the odds that a product is in the testing/pre-release stage with the exact same name is undoubtedly very rare. And I'm sure if the names where EXACTLY the same Daz would make one PA change it, but again, it's probably extremely rare for two products with the exact same name to get submitted at the same time. :) Not enough to warrant the added work and back and forth between all the testers as well as all the PAs and the testers. :)
The character dooesn't over write another in a scene, it overwrites in the Daz file structure. I can't think of the character either but what got overridden was the thumbnail image that appears in the "character" folder. 2 files with the same name, only the first file's picture shows up.
This is not about the discount but the character. Great skin, but painted genital hair? That doesn't make sense when there is a no-brow option.