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Can this shader pack be converted to iray?

davesodaveso Posts: 7,803
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https://www.daz3d.com/sparkly-car-paint

I like this a lot, but, it is not iray ... if you add the uber shader will it become iray or not? 

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  • AllenArtAllenArt Posts: 7,175

    IF it's procedural (and I don't know if it is or not), then that would be impossible.

    Laurie

  • Charlie JudgeCharlie Judge Posts: 13,253

    Well, I did a quick test. Here is the red sparkly car paint applied to the "hull" and then iRay uber shader was applied  It is rendered in Iray with no other adjustments being made. It works but you may lose some of the "sparkly"; I'm not sure if you could restore that by playing around with the settings.

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  • davesodaveso Posts: 7,803
    Charlie Judge said:

    Well, I did a quick test. Here is the red sparkly car paint applied to the "hull" and then iRay uber shader was applied  It is rendered in Iray with no other adjustments being made. It works but you may lose some of the "sparkly"; I'm not sure if you could restore that by playing around with the settings.

    thanks for checking. It might be worth picking up anyway... pretty inexpensive, and then experiment a bit. it all contributes to my learning DS... a lot to learn. 
    There are a couple of other iray metal shaders that look pretty good without the sparkle, so I might go that route instead. 

    These look really interesting for car paint.. 
    https://www.daz3d.com/creative-metal-iray-shaders

  • NorthOf45NorthOf45 Posts: 5,692

    There are a few native Iray paint shaders that will give the desired effect, with fancy Iray tricks. Not all PC+ like this one, though.

    Paint and Suede Shaders (PC+)
    Paint! for DAZ Studio Iray
    MMX Car Paint Shaders for Iray

     

  • TaozTaoz Posts: 10,262

    Here's a test.

    1st from the left is Sparkly Car Paint with Iray Uber Base.

    2-3-4 are the 3 different styles from Paint! for DAZ Studio Iray

    5 is DAZ own Car Paint - Large Flakes (just changed color from red to green)

    I think 5 is closest to Sparkly Car Paint.

     

     

     

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  • SpottedKittySpottedKitty Posts: 7,232
    Charlie Judge said:

    It works but you may lose some of the "sparkly"; I'm not sure if you could restore that by playing around with the settings.

    Don't see why not, the Iray material top coat is something called "Metallic Flakes", so it should be possible — note I didn't say "easy" — to reverse-engineer a similar effect once you open the Metallic Flakes parameters.

  • AllenArtAllenArt Posts: 7,175
    edited December 2018
    SpottedKitty said:
    Charlie Judge said:

    It works but you may lose some of the "sparkly"; I'm not sure if you could restore that by playing around with the settings.

    Don't see why not, the Iray material top coat is something called "Metallic Flakes", so it should be possible — note I didn't say "easy" — to reverse-engineer a similar effect once you open the Metallic Flakes parameters.

    Yes, it's easy enough to make your own with the metallic flakes in the Iray shader, but if the OP is trying to directly transfer a 3Delight procedural to an Iray shader, it's not possible. The flakes would be lost if there's no direct Iray procedural node for them. In that case, the flakes would have to be added back in, in which case you may as well make your own or change one of an Iray shader like Taoz did above :).

    Laurie

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  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,729

    The product is just a bunch of color presets with a single noise map in a 3DL specular slot in the Surfaces. You'd convert to iRay & then use as stated above 'Metallic Flakes' to replicate the flakiness. As a not in the free DAZ UberIray presets are included a two or three sparkly type presets. I think of those modifying the 'Chameleon' car paint (sparkly green & purple) would be easiest. 

  • davesodaveso Posts: 7,803
    Taoz said:

    Here's a test.

    1st from the left is Sparkly Car Paint with Iray Uber Base.

    2-3-4 are the 3 different styles from Paint! for DAZ Studio Iray

    5 is DAZ own Car Paint - Large Flakes (just changed color from red to green)

    I think 5 is closest to Sparkly Car Paint.

     

     

     

    yes..5 metal flake for sure

     

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