OT: The fires in California are really bad

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  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 42,209

    ...fires kicking up here in Oregon again.  Smoke form a nearby blaze currently darkening the skies over Portland this afternoon and evening.  90° - 100° temperatures in store for most of the coming week.

    Almost the entire Northwest from Northern California through Oregon Washington State, Idaho, Northern Nevada, and Western Montana is under an above normal wildfire risk for both August and September.

  • wizwiz Posts: 1,100
    Novica said:

    I had posted I was surprised the states who were helping had not been identified, and thought Florida would pitch in since everyone helped us when we got hit with the hurricane clobbering the Florida keys and the Florida peninsula.

    Hasn't Florida got uncontained wildfires of their own going on right now? Along with about 1/3 the state under a severe drought warning, and a general equipment shortage. Despite all that, they are on the list of six states sending gear and crews that haven't arrived yet. No matter when help comes, it's appreciated: some of the firefighters on scene have been working insane shifts for weeks in hell (and I don't mean the cute little town in Michigan with the famous ice cream parlor).

    Novica said:

    Well, our help is on the way. Go Florida and Georgia!  And kudos to Michigan, Wisconsin, and those East Coast states. That's a LONG way to travel to help.

    Yeah, but that's just how Michigan is. It's like an entire state full of superheros.

  • 3Diva3Diva Posts: 12,042

    I live in Cali and the air right now outside smells of smoke pretty badly. According to the maps I could find online it doesn't look like there are any fires near me, but it's hard to tell if they're up-to-date and current. It's pretty scary.

  • NovicaNovica Posts: 23,925
    wiz said:

    Hasn't Florida got uncontained wildfires of their own going on right now? Along with about 1/3 the state under a severe drought warning, and a general equipment shortage. Despite all that, they are on the list of six states sending gear and crews that haven't arrived yet.

    Hmmm, so far as I know (and I could be wrong)  the state isn't in drought at all. We've had so much rain most of the state is in the blue. The worst is in the light greenish area and that's not even halfway to drought. We've been getting rain several times a week or at least once a week, all summer. 

      We do have 3 fires that are worth mentioning, but two are 11,000 acres and 8,000, which are piddly in comparison to the third one. That one is indeed a biggie. But for a state so large as Florida, three fires in the summer (with all our thunderstorms, we are the number one state for lightning strikes) is fairly low. There may be more that I just didn't find when Googling it though. 

     

  • WonderlandWonderland Posts: 7,137
    MarcCCTx said:

    I'm reading that there's now something called a Firenado...

     

    Sounds like another bad TV show on the SYFY Channel...

  • grinch2901grinch2901 Posts: 1,247
    Novica said:

    I had posted I was surprised the states who were helping had not been identified, and thought Florida would pitch in since everyone helped us when we got hit with the hurricane clobbering the Florida keys and the Florida peninsula. Well, our help is on the way. Go Florida and Georgia!  And kudos to Michigan, Wisconsin, and those East Coast states. That's a LONG way to travel to help.

    There are people who are pros at fighting wildfires, specially trained and crazy courageous. They live all over the place, they go to the fires wherever they are. My company actually made a system for the government that kept track of all the stuff that the firefighters will need and where it is in the vicinity of the fire. So the firefighters arrive, they go to the databade to see where the closest trucks, sandbags, water, helicopters with giant water buckets, dynamite, whatever they need and order it released to them. They don't bring their own equipment and there is no local widfire fire department. It's all national.

    One of my secret desires is to write a book someday about a smokejumper who stumbles into something crazy while fighting a fire. These guys are nuts who skydive into the middle of forest fires to put them out. I've got a plot in mind but I have more excuses to stop me from sitting down and doing it than I have thus far been able to overcome. Someday ... someday ...

  • dracorndracorn Posts: 2,363
    Novica said:

    I had posted I was surprised the states who were helping had not been identified, and thought Florida would pitch in since everyone helped us when we got hit with the hurricane clobbering the Florida keys and the Florida peninsula. Well, our help is on the way. Go Florida and Georgia!  And kudos to Michigan, Wisconsin, and those East Coast states. That's a LONG way to travel to help.

    There are people who are pros at fighting wildfires, specially trained and crazy courageous. They live all over the place, they go to the fires wherever they are. My company actually made a system for the government that kept track of all the stuff that the firefighters will need and where it is in the vicinity of the fire. So the firefighters arrive, they go to the databade to see where the closest trucks, sandbags, water, helicopters with giant water buckets, dynamite, whatever they need and order it released to them. They don't bring their own equipment and there is no local widfire fire department. It's all national.

    One of my secret desires is to write a book someday about a smokejumper who stumbles into something crazy while fighting a fire. These guys are nuts who skydive into the middle of forest fires to put them out. I've got a plot in mind but I have more excuses to stop me from sitting down and doing it than I have thus far been able to overcome. Someday ... someday ...

    I would read a story like that, grinch2901 .  Those fire jumpers ROCK!  

    The first hurdle to writing is just DO it.  Just sit down and start writing.  Don't even worry if you think it sucks.  Believe me, it will be written and re-written lots of times.  I'm a want-to-be published author myself, and nothing happened until I made the decision to sit down and start writing.  There's a whole slew of us Daz users who are also writers.  I also know of some good how-to-write books if you would like to know.

    Just go for it!

  • Sky is like hella yellow in the Bay Area.

    It's like living in the Los Angeles basin.

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 42,209

    ...been that way in Portland OR the last few days as well.

  • dracorndracorn Posts: 2,363
    Early this morning, the moon was orange - and I don't mean a cool harvest moon. My allergies have been going nuts lately.
  • dragotxdragotx Posts: 1,149
    Novica said:

    I had posted I was surprised the states who were helping had not been identified, and thought Florida would pitch in since everyone helped us when we got hit with the hurricane clobbering the Florida keys and the Florida peninsula. Well, our help is on the way. Go Florida and Georgia!  And kudos to Michigan, Wisconsin, and those East Coast states. That's a LONG way to travel to help.

    There are people who are pros at fighting wildfires, specially trained and crazy courageous. They live all over the place, they go to the fires wherever they are. My company actually made a system for the government that kept track of all the stuff that the firefighters will need and where it is in the vicinity of the fire. So the firefighters arrive, they go to the databade to see where the closest trucks, sandbags, water, helicopters with giant water buckets, dynamite, whatever they need and order it released to them. They don't bring their own equipment and there is no local widfire fire department. It's all national.

    One of my secret desires is to write a book someday about a smokejumper who stumbles into something crazy while fighting a fire. These guys are nuts who skydive into the middle of forest fires to put them out. I've got a plot in mind but I have more excuses to stop me from sitting down and doing it than I have thus far been able to overcome. Someday ... someday ...

    That would make for an awesome urban horror series, like the Dresden Files

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 42,209
    dracorn said:
    Early this morning, the moon was orange - and I don't mean a cool harvest moon. My allergies have been going nuts lately.

    ..beginning to have breathing issues and a scratchy throat.  Report says that the the air quality is "good", maybe if you are living somewhere on the coast.  Here in the city residual smoke is combining with low level pollution and temps heading to around 100°.

  • grinch2901grinch2901 Posts: 1,247
    dragotx said:
    Novica said:
    One of my secret desires is to write a book someday about a smokejumper who stumbles into something crazy while fighting a fire. These guys are nuts who skydive into the middle of forest fires to put them out. I've got a plot in mind but I have more excuses to stop me from sitting down and doing it than I have thus far been able to overcome. Someday ... someday ...

    That would make for an awesome urban horror series, like the Dresden Files

    surprise

    Now that is a direction I never considered! I was thinking some sort of conspiracy thriller, guy jumps into a fire only to find some nefarious goings on by people who presumably set said fire to cover their tracks, etc. But if they were a den of werewolves .... or vampires ... 

    Now my gears are turning!

  • ButchButch Posts: 800
    Taoz said:

    It is sad how routine these fires have become, and horrible weather in general. Over here where I am, aside from a couple of decent rain free days, it has rained every day for two weeks straight. I wish I could send some of that water your way. There has been flooding, on and off. Where I am located, I am elevated enough that it would need a biblical flood to reach. But in areas around me, there have been swift water rescues in places that have never needed that sort of thing before. Two people were swept away by flash flooding, and sadly they were not found until over two weeks later.

    Wish it was here. Drought for 2 months now, and they say it may last for another 6 weeks. Farmers are desperate - expecting the worst harvest in 100 years.

    2 months, huh?  I'm in north western New South Wales (Australia) and we haven't had decent rainfall for close to 18 months.  I'm on town water and the water supply is down to roughly 20% of capacity, may be below that now.  Substantial rain's not predicted until early next year, if I heard correctly.  No one can agree on when "it's the worst drought since" - it ranges from 16 years to 800 years.  

    Most farmers around here are pretty smart, though.  They sold their stock when they realised the severity of the drought and stockpiled feed for their remaining stock.  Anything left in the ground is being eaten by kangaroos.  Except for my backyard, which is now a dustbowl - I have photos of it, back when it had grass. 

    Summer's going to be hot and dry, too.  With a national park down that road and a state forest up that road, I feel it'll be interesting times ahead.

  • At least for San Francisco itself, it's now the month of Fogust... so Karl cleans the air in the City, where I work.

  • dragotxdragotx Posts: 1,149
    dragotx said:
    Novica said:
    One of my secret desires is to write a book someday about a smokejumper who stumbles into something crazy while fighting a fire. These guys are nuts who skydive into the middle of forest fires to put them out. I've got a plot in mind but I have more excuses to stop me from sitting down and doing it than I have thus far been able to overcome. Someday ... someday ...

    That would make for an awesome urban horror series, like the Dresden Files

    surprise

    Now that is a direction I never considered! I was thinking some sort of conspiracy thriller, guy jumps into a fire only to find some nefarious goings on by people who presumably set said fire to cover their tracks, etc. But if they were a den of werewolves .... or vampires ... 

    Now my gears are turning!

    heh, happy t be of service

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 42,209
    edited August 2018

    ..the sunrise here in Portland OR this morning..

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  • LeatherGryphonLeatherGryphon Posts: 12,291
    edited August 2018
    kyoto kid said:

    ..the sunrise here in Portland OR this morning..

    Which planet?  Are you sure you're not orbiting Betelgeuse?

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  • Sven DullahSven Dullah Posts: 7,621
    kyoto kid said:

    ..the sunrise here in Portland OR this morning..

     

    Which planet?  Are you sure you're not orbiting Betelgeuse?

    Exactly my thoughtsurprise

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 42,209

    ...yes this is normally cloudy wet Portland OR, not Betelgeuse-5a.  That's how thick the smoke is here and it is no longer just in the upper atmosphere liek last week, but down to street level.  Need to head to the chemist's for some eye drops in a bit.

  • dracorndracorn Posts: 2,363
    Anybody else having serious sinus trouble besides me? The smoke is making it impossible to breathe at night without allergy spray, decongestant soray, AND a nose strip. At least my sinuses aren't cracking and bleeding... yet. I used to sleep with the window open at night but I can't do that right now. So my choices are open windows when it's cool and breathe crappy air or have a sky-high electricity bill (in CA).
  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 42,209
    edited August 2018

    ..yep.  stuffy nose, sinuses were aching last night, eyes irritated/watering (even after eyedrops) and throat congested.

    For myself it's a choice of windows open and get some air while breathing the rubbish, or windows closed and not get any sleep because it gets too hot and stuffy (even with a fan) as I don't have AC.

    The bad air quality alert where I am has been extended through Friday now. as fires in Washington state are spreading a thick plume of smoke over Portland today it almost looks like a layer of Altostratus clouds hanging low over the city Even at zenith the sky is very hazy whereas yesterday I could still see a bit of blue.

    Below are pics I took of the early sunrise this morning and light coming through the blinds.

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  • Serene NightSerene Night Posts: 17,705

    I use a nasal strip, cool mist humidifier and the Neil med nasal gel. Gel keeps the nose wetter longer than saline. I avoid decongestants due to rebound.

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