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  • deathbycanondeathbycanon Posts: 1,227

    Also just in case you don't know if you right click on a pose you can select "show in folder" then you can copy and paste the folder address from the top of your window into the program. 

  • Geminii23Geminii23 Posts: 1,328
    deathbycanon said:

    Once you open the pose converter you select the file folder where the original poses are, then select a destination folder for the new files to load to and run the script.  It will convert the whole folder of poses.  

    Ok, so then I do need to locate all the pose folders in my library first.  I was afraid of that.  LOL

  • gitika1gitika1 Posts: 948
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    Males can already use female poses and vice versa though.

    Heres the thing though about pose builder. Say that you have a full pose that hasnt been divided into partials. You really like the left arm pose and you want to apply it to your figure. And then hey, maybe you want to use the right leg pose from another pose completely. Thats when pose builder comes in really handy. It can segment all of those poses and apply only those partiels that you want to take from complete poses. Then all you do is save as a pose preset and you constructed a new pose. You cant sell or share that pose because you used another artists pose in creating your new pose, but now you have a brand new pose.

    That doesn't help converting male to female though (because it doesn't even need to be done), and I already do this now by simply selecting the base joint of the part I want affected and Ctrl-clicking the pose. This functionality is built into Studio.

    Sure it is. All you have to do is make minor changes to any pose and your done. Pose builder is more about creating new poses than converting.

    Yes, by "allowing" you to apply full poses as partials. But like I just said, this is part of the base Studio with no purchase at all...

    Very true. You can take the time to lock every body part that you dont want to  move and then apply each pose, repeat for every other body part over and over until youve got the pose you want.

    LMAO

    No.

    You Ctrl-click the pose like I said, to bring up options. I have mine set up to default to Selected Recursive when I Ctrl-click so all I have to do to apply a pose to the left arm is select the left shoulder and Ctrl-click and OK.

    And unlike scripts, I can also apply that pose just to the lower arm by selecting the forearm. Or just the hand by selecting that hand! Or one. single. finger. should I feel it necessary.

    I know, old school, right?

    Cool, you learn something new every day. So now, everyone who reads this discussion will know how to do this. How did you figure this out? It couldnt have been in any daz documentation.

    Oh boy I have no idea. I can't remember not knowing it though there was undoubtedly a time when I didn't. I am as willing to bet as you are that it was not from DAZ documentation though.

    AnotherUserName said:

    Still Zev0's system is faster.

    After you set up your preferred options, it is only one click to select joint and one shift-click to apply partial pose. I don't think it's even possible to be faster.

    AnotherUserName said:

    You can alos make torso adjustments and zeros while you are still in pose builder as well as general x,y,z and rotation adjustments.

    That's kind of useful I guess, not really to me though because I can already do that outside pose builder.

    AnotherUserName said:

    And, if youre like me, and dont let daz remember changes (why im not sure :)) thats even more mouse clicks that you have to make in daz.

    I don't like changing defaults either, but I guarantee if you like mixing poses you won't regret changing your preferred pose load options to Selected Recursive. wink

    Thanks for this information.  As a new user, I am happy to come across time saving tips!

  • Geminii23Geminii23 Posts: 1,328
    edited April 2018

    So, can anyone confirm that I can simply load up My Library/Runtime/Libraries/Pose and then convert.  I see that this folder has a lot of the V4 pose files, but it also has more than just poses.  Is this a problem?

    *** So I am running the batch right now.  I chose to Turn Off all Limits.  So hopefully the end results will work correctly.  

    Thanks

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  • SpottedKittySpottedKitty Posts: 7,232

    I got a full set of the converters just a few weeks back, that lets me convert everything from Generation 4 all the way up to Genesis 8. Massively useful, and I don't think I've come across a pose it won't work on yet.

    Just one IMHO small gotcha; the buttons to select source pose location are at the bottom of the dialog, and the buttons for destination are at the top — the opposite to the way I think. I figured it out quickly, though.

  • Geminii23Geminii23 Posts: 1,328

    So I ran my first test and converted V4/M4 poses that were in the /Runtime/Libraries/Pose directory.  Everything seemed to go ok and now all of these have been converted to G1.  I think everything went ok from a few quick tests though some poses see to have some oddities with hands.  I did set it to Turn Limits Off.  Not sure if I was supposed to do that though.  I actually also went through and deleted folders from the output that didn't seem to be worthwhile such as Emotiguy.

    Now what I want to know is how to convert G1 to G2/G3.  Is this possible?  Also, I do have the G3 to G8 and G2 to G3 Pose Converters as well but I am not sure what Zforearm unlocker is.  Can anyone explain this?  Is there a missing manual somewhere for all of these products?

    Thanks 

  • Serene NightSerene Night Posts: 17,704
    edited April 2018

    I convert like this:

    V4-Genesis 2 female pose converter: https://www.daz3d.com/v4-pose-converter-for-genesis-and-genesis-2-female-s

    I then take it to Genesis 3 female using:

    Genesis 2 female to Genesis 3 female: https://www.daz3d.com/pose-converter-genesis-2-female-s-to-genesis-3-female-s

    Then Genesis 3 female to Genesis 8 Female: https://www.daz3d.com/genesis-3-to-genesis-8-pose-converter

    I prefer pose converters I do not need to unlock arms and legs when converting. It saves time.

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  • Serene NightSerene Night Posts: 17,704

    I should state I use this to convert male poses. I have no use for female poses.... So I convert M4 poses using the v4 conversion tool.

  • Geminii23Geminii23 Posts: 1,328
    Serene Night said:

    I convert like this:

    V4-Genesis 2 female pose converter: https://www.daz3d.com/v4-pose-converter-for-genesis-and-genesis-2-female-s

    I then take it to Genesis 3 female using:

    Genesis 2 female to Genesis 3 female: https://www.daz3d.com/pose-converter-genesis-2-female-s-to-genesis-3-female-s

    Then Genesis 3 female to Genesis 8 Female: https://www.daz3d.com/genesis-3-to-genesis-8-pose-converter

    I prefer pose converters I do not need to unlock arms and legs when converting. It saves time.

    Well, the point of my query is not how to go straight from V4 - G2/3.  What I am after is mass compatibility.  So convert my V4 to G1, G2 and G3 but also convert other G1 pose sets to G2 and G3 as well.  (not to mention G8).  So it seems like the only piece missing here with the pose converters I have is a G1 to G2/G3 option.  And also I don't understnad this whole Forearm Unlocking.  I am not clear on what to do with it.  Do I load up a G2 character, then load the Unlocker and then run the conversion?   

  • Serene NightSerene Night Posts: 17,704

    For genesis you need a product like handy dandy to bring them to gen 2 https://www.daz3d.com/handy-dandy  then you convert as usual

    The unlocker has to be applied to each pose which is why its kind of frustrating. Its not a tool like the converter which does them all at once. You have to use it one at a time. Thats why I don't use scripts that need it.

  • Geminii23Geminii23 Posts: 1,328
    Serene Night said:

    For genesis you need a product like handy dandy to bring them to gen 2 https://www.daz3d.com/handy-dandy  then you convert as usual

    The unlocker has to be applied to each pose which is why its kind of frustrating. Its not a tool like the converter which does them all at once. You have to use it one at a time. Thats why I don't use scripts that need it.

    Wait so Handy Dandy converts entire pose?  Not just hands?

    So the G2 pose converter by Zev0 doesn't work like the V4 one?  You can't batch the whole folder?  Does it prompt you to use the unlocker each time or something?

  • Serene NightSerene Night Posts: 17,704
    edited April 2018

    Sorry. Its late. And I don't intend to confuse you.

    The poses for earlier figures apply to the later figures but require adjustments. Its been a while since I've used handy dandy but basically you can click and apply say an genesis pose to genesis 2 and then use handy dandy to reset the hands and feet. It doesn't convert anything per se. It adjusts it. You can save it if you want as a pose though. For a long while handy dandy was the only way to use poses from previous generations.

    All the pose converters do batches. Its just whether you have to unlock the limbs after... The V4-to genesis 2 does not. Neither do the other two I listed. I am not sure about the ones you have. IT should say if a foreamr unlocker is included... In the docs.

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  • Geminii23Geminii23 Posts: 1,328

    Thanks.  Yeah the whole problem is that there are no docs for these products from what I can tell.  And no one seems to know how the Unlocker is supposed to be applied.  I see also a Pose Corrector for the G3 to G8 pose converter, but again I can find no info on when you run this in the process.

  • deathbycanondeathbycanon Posts: 1,227

    Use the gen 2 to 3 converter the same way you did all the others. If I remember correctly the arm unlock says something like use the arm unlock before using the converted poses, or maybe it says that after conversionI don't remember. Anyway after your poses are converted and you want to add one of those poses to a G3 you click the arm unlock, then click the pose. Honestly I forget about half the time and the pose still looks fine. I only ever unlock the arms once per figure even if I'm trying multiple poses with it.

  • Serene NightSerene Night Posts: 17,704

    V4 to genesis and genesis 2 requires no arm unlock. So you are fine using that to conver v4 to genesis. you need to unlock nothing

    Pose Converter Genesis 2 Female(s) to Genesis 3 Female(s) also does not rquire unlocking.

    Genesis 3 to genesis 8 does not require the arm unlock. It does however include the 'corrector' option. This is for users who want to apply gen 3 poses to gen 8 but not convert them. You would apply the gen 3 pose to gen 8 and use the corrector. If you run the mass conversion though, this is not required.

     

  • Cris PalominoCris Palomino Posts: 12,480

    Looks like you found the official support thread. It's a good idea to look for those. You will normally find them as they should be marked Commercial.

    https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/51586/pose-builder-pose-converter-support-thread-commercial/p16

  • AnotherUserNameAnotherUserName Posts: 2,727
    Geminii23 said:

    Thanks.  Yeah the whole problem is that there are no docs for these products from what I can tell.  And no one seems to know how the Unlocker is supposed to be applied.  I see also a Pose Corrector for the G3 to G8 pose converter, but again I can find no info on when you run this in the process.

    I think that if you turned limits off, you dont need to use the forearm unlocker. I seem to remember using it only once to see what it did and then never touched it again.

  • Geminii23Geminii23 Posts: 1,328

    Jeez this is taking forever.  Batch has been running for nearly 24 hours.  And that is just converting V4 to Genesis.  And I am on an 8-Core Mac Pro.  Yikes.

  • Serene NightSerene Night Posts: 17,704
    edited April 2018

    The v4 conversion process does take a long time. The other scripts are much faster.

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  • Geminii23Geminii23 Posts: 1,328
    Serene Night said:

    The v4 conversion process does take a long time. The other scripts are much faster.

    So running the G2 to G3 script and noticed that it is not loading the character and pose in DAZ Scene.  So it is doing this one behind the scenes?  Definitely moving fast.  Hope it is working correctly.

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