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Well said.
Still on Windows 7 Tried to upgrade to 10 but it always fails. After some investigating i asume it has to do with the fact my user folder is not on C: but C: holds a virtual link to E: where my user folder is created. This prevented me from reinstalling Windows when i got my SSD. Also My SSD is "only" 256GB so i moved my user folder (also to keep the read/write low). At this point the free space is lower then my user folder and i never botherd to change that or recreate a user folder for the upgrade. Also im perfectly happy with Windows 7 so for me no real motivation to change.
Maybe someday.... I expect a new OS to pop up before 2020 so i will worrie when that day comes, for now im happy with 7 and not to worried about the support.
If it happens, then it happens. I'll deal with it then.
But the software I use will always work on Win7. It's working now, it will work in the future.
The only thing that will change is that I won't be able to update to a newer version.
So what? As long as it does what I want it to do, it's fine.
If the motherboard hadn't died on my WinME computer, I'd still be using it.
No need to get rid of something that works.
Don't get me wrong, I'll go to Linux before I ever touch Windows 10. Don't want that abomination anywhere near any of my PCs lol. It's just that sticking to an old Windows OS doesn't futureproof one much. Maybe some magical day, someone will make a magic Linux software (NOT Wine) that will run Windows software without the hair pulling that Wine now presents. LOL.
I know, I know....I'm dreaming ;).
Laurie
It's not a might happen, MS always drops support for older software after a while, like every company.
For sure. It's unreasonable to expect any software company to support a product indefinitely, let alone forever. But the alternatives on offer have never looked this grim before.
I hated XP; it is, however, preferable to Windows 10 - if only just. I loathe W10.
I bought a pro version of windows 7; installing it friday/saturday as I have a week off work to get everything sorted. I expect that going forward, I'll be using linux more than I do. If Daz did a version of Studio that worked on it, I'd gladly dump Windows altogether.
XP? I have very fond memories of Windows 2000.
Cheers,
Alex.
I actually didn't mind XP, but I wasn't sure how well I would like Win7 after dealing (very briefly) with Vista. It cost me several hundred bucks to get Vista off my shiny new Dell--the last I will ever buy--and revert it to XP, and as far as I'm concerned it was worth every cent. So when my computer guy built my first Win7 box I got him to make it a dual-boot system, XP and 7. After a while I realized that 7 was enough like XP that I felt comfortable with it, so I ended up deleting the XP partition. All my older XP software ran just fine in 7, so with my latest build I didn't bother with dual-boot.
So if you learned to live with XP, you'll probably be OK with 7. Good luck, and have fun!
And I still reminisce fondly about DOS 5-point-whatever and Windows 3.1. Oh, for those simple, carefree days, when I didn't even have or need an Internet connection...
...the difference with W10 and previous versions of the OS is it is now being handled as a "service" (MS's term) rather than a defined OS product, so there is no more SP-1, SP-2, etc. Instead it is a constant flow of feature and security updates that is spoon fed to every user. whenever MS sees fit whether the user wants it or not. With Home Edition you are at the mercy of their update timetable, with Pro you can at least defer for a couple months. This is part of the "intrusiveness many don't like (aside from the telemetry which can be switched off...well to a point, as Cortana keeps running in background). True you can turn all updating off (I believe, not sure in the case of Home Edition anymore as there have been so many policy changes), but then you better have a hefty rock solid firewall and robust Malware utilities or keep that system offline.
https://www.howtogeek.com/271096/why-is-cortana-still-running-in-the-background-after-you-disable-it/
I liked how lean and mean Windows 98se was back in the day, but of course it isn't even an option these days, seeing all of the new types of components and such that have been added to computers since then. Plus drivers aren't happening...
I wish Microsoft would get away from feeling the need to use more memory and resources just because they can, and mandating what you should and shouldn't have in your own install. Skeletal framework is one thing, but I don't need Cortana (I deleted her via a hack, so far successfully although supposedly at the expense of some functionality, haven't noticed anything missing really), , and also a few other things bundled into 10. I use a 'classic' shell as well, although there are one or two new things I don't mind in 10.
The stupid high levels of VRAM being reserved from each of my dual 1080s really pisses me off though. No reason for this other than Windows designers being greedy with resoureces IMHO, as this wasn't an issue in 8...
There are people out there that do want 'Windows 10 ultra lite', I wish Microsoft would understand that and work toward that, for people like me that just dont need cloud drives, Cortana, tiles, etc... The number of processes currently running in my task manager is rather bloated, and most of them are OS specific...
..this is part of my complaint in that Cortana is integrated in rather than layers on the OS There have been reports that after an update it is fully up and running again and thus needs to be disabled (which as I understand can now only bed done in the pro version). The Cortana Assistant is and should be a "fluff" add on like any other "app" and not an integrated part of the OS. MS should have just stuck with the tried and true Windows Explorer.
...I am one of those people and have made my statement about this in several tech journals. It should be designed to allow the user to say yea or nay at the point of installation rather than having it all active and forcing us to hunt down where to turn off all the "crapware" we don't want (including having to root around in the registry).
I'd gladly trade Cortana for Explorer and the old Media Player any day.
Oh, and I liked 98 as well, pity.
I recently used for a few minutes a version of an older Windows than Windows 10 and that just confirmed how much better Windows 10 is in everyway to the older versions of Windows. It was like riding in a 75 year old school bus on a bumpy road using the older version of Windows compared to a Mercedes Benz on newly paved roads with Windows 10.
I'm not one of these people that think Windows 10/Microsoft is outdoing Google with regards to collection of private data though, not by a long shot.
Yes, the first stable consumer friendly Windows version. Took me months to get used to a system that didn't crash or had to be rebooted regularly because of running out of system resources.
...well if you don't mind the mechanic showing up at random times, like when you are on your way to work, to service that Mercedes.
I'll take that old school bus any day as like an older car it was simpler to maintain, had only the features I needed, and I could take care of it myself.
Only had features it needed as in missing seatbelts and prone to gasoline explosions? I'll take the modern Mecedes.
Never saw Cortana return. I am on Pro though so maybe that's why, no idea. Windows Explorer is of course still alive and well. I use it every day.
I will say, if you google "Windows 10 sucks" you're gonna get those results where people tell you what they think is bad about it. Have you ever googled "Windows 10 is pretty good"?
Me: Hey Google, "Windows 10 is pretty good"
Google: https://www.computerworld.com/article/3221369/microsoft-windows/its-time-to-move-to-win10-creators-update-for-all-the-wrong-reasons.html
Haha, got me
You... did cherry pick the bad result though? I think my point stands. Also you googled. Google collected that data and is hoarding, analyzing it, and profiling you up and down. That kind of information is power, and a million times worse than the little OS telemetry data Microsoft is trying to get from you. While in Windows 10 you can completely disable it, you cannot control in any way what Google does with the info you just gave them.
The bad result? There's also a video about how Windows 10 is terrible for gaming. I'm just pointing out, tongue in cheek, that googling for reasons why W10 is great turns up specific reasons why it isn't on the very first page.
A lot of the positive results that I looked through were just "the interface is so much better than Windows 8," which good lord, I would hope so, and "wow, a lot of people are using Windows 10," which after the massive push from Microsoft to download it for free, no surprise.
Alright, alright
At least give me credit for "pretty good". I mean, try "Windows 10 is amazing" instead.
http://bgr.com/2015/07/31/windows-10-upgrade-spying-how-to-opt-out/
To be fair, the article is pretty flattering about everything but the spying.
Also I do actually think Windows 10 looks incredible. Like Microsoft did about everything right they could to learn from all the previous versions of Windows. Automatic updates and opting out of data gathering instead of opting in just makes me crazy. The first thing I've always done on all of my Windows installations has always been turning off all the automatic stuff, and the fact that Windows 10 tries to make it hard is disconcerting to me.
Here's how to opt out. So what't the problem? I saw no such option when I just googled "Windows 10 is amazing", which gave me 39 million hits. Whereas "Windows 7 is amazing" gave me only 17 million. Clearly Windows 10 is way more amazlinger!
...actually not so much the free offer (MS didn't even get half way to their touted goal of W10 on1 billion systems during the free upgrade period of 2015 - 2016) but more by attrition as over the last year or so. Pretty much every new system and notebook being sold is bundled with W10 (usually Home Edition) as well as like I mentioned the new Intel and AMD multi core CPUs don't support any other version of the Windows OS.
A few custom shops still offer a W7 Pro "downgrade" (mostly for Xeon based workstations) but even that is becoming harder to find.
The holdouts are primarily those of us who still have older systems that are running just fine under 7 or 8.1.
RIght, sure. Would I wish it to be all disabled by default? Yes. It is nearly as big a deal as people make it out to be? No. In today's world even less so, as I cannot opt out of a whole lot of things and I'm being sold in the form of data for all kinds of purposes. One need only turn on the news today.