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  • 3Diva3Diva Posts: 11,970

    What exactly is Aiko 7 for Aiko 8? 

    It it a UV? A clone shape? Either? Both? Neither? The description is really lacking detail. 

    The description is really lacking everything. Doesn't anyone at DAZ look at these things to check they make sense? There have been way too many new items popping up in the store lately with just a few words of description.

    While the description is short, I think it makes it clear what the product is:

    • Aiko 7 for Aiko 8: (.DUF)
      • Aiko 7 for Aiko 8 Character Preset
      • Aiko 7 Full Body Shape
      • Aiko 7 Head Shape
    • Aiko 7 Material:
      • Aiko 7 All
      • 6 Make-up Options
      • 4 Eye Color Options

    So based on the description it's head and body shape morphs that combine with Aiko 8's morph to give you Aiko 7's head and body shapes. As well as Aiko 7 mats - all that can be used on Genesis 8 Figures.

  • HavosHavos Posts: 5,575

    What exactly is Aiko 7 for Aiko 8? 

    It it a UV? A clone shape? Either? Both? Neither? The description is really lacking detail. 

    The description is really lacking everything. Doesn't anyone at DAZ look at these things to check they make sense? There have been way too many new items popping up in the store lately with just a few words of description.

    While the description is short, I think it makes it clear what the product is:

    • Aiko 7 for Aiko 8: (.DUF)
      • Aiko 7 for Aiko 8 Character Preset
      • Aiko 7 Full Body Shape
      • Aiko 7 Head Shape
    • Aiko 7 Material:
      • Aiko 7 All
      • 6 Make-up Options
      • 4 Eye Color Options

    So based on the description it's head and body shape morphs that combine with Aiko 8's morph to give you Aiko 7's head and body shapes. As well as Aiko 7 mats - all that can be used on Genesis 8 Figures.

    I got this last night, and as you say, I am pretty sure that the Aiko 7 for Aiko 8 morph does need Aiko 8. She has massive arms and thighs when dialled in, and does not look much like A7, so I am guessing she needs the Aiko 8 morph to complete the A7 look. However, oddily no errors pop up saying it can not find the A8 morph.

    As stated it comes with Aiko's MATs, and it even comes with a UV, but bizzarely this is not used as the skins supplied use the Base Female UVs. I guess that makes the skin more flexible than the Aiko 7 UV skin that comes with the real Aiko 7.

    Basically at $3.30 this seemed an alright deal for anyone like me that did not have Aiko 7, a lot cheaper than $44.50 for the real thing! It has the added advantage (or disadvantage) of being on G8 instead of G3.

  • L'AdairL'Adair Posts: 9,479
    edited March 2018

    What exactly is Aiko 7 for Aiko 8? 

    It it a UV? A clone shape? Either? Both? Neither? The description is really lacking detail. 

    The description is really lacking everything. Doesn't anyone at DAZ look at these things to check they make sense? There have been way too many new items popping up in the store lately with just a few words of description.

    While the description is short, I think it makes it clear what the product is:

    • Aiko 7 for Aiko 8: (.DUF)
      • Aiko 7 for Aiko 8 Character Preset
      • Aiko 7 Full Body Shape
      • Aiko 7 Head Shape
    • Aiko 7 Material:
      • Aiko 7 All
      • 6 Make-up Options
      • 4 Eye Color Options

    So based on the description it's head and body shape morphs that combine with Aiko 8's morph to give you Aiko 7's head and body shapes. As well as Aiko 7 mats - all that can be used on Genesis 8 Figures.

    Love you, Diva, but I have to agree with @SpottedKitty on this one.


    Five words does not a description make. In fact, for the Aiko 7 for Aiko 8 product, @Divamakeup gave a better description above. Tweaked a tiny bit I get: Aiko 7 for Aiko 8 gives you full-character, head, and body shape morphs specifically made to work with Aiko 8 to give you the Aiko 7 shape you know and love. But that's not all. Aiko 7 materials, including makeup and eye color options, are ready to use on Aiko 8 or any of your Genesis 8 female characters.

    It took me about 5 minutes to come up with that, maybe a little more. I believe Daz should have someone on staff who can proof, and augment descriptions, especially for PAs who are unable to write these blurbs due to language barriers. A good description can and, usually, does mean more sales in the long run.

    And here are some other things I'd like to know that could have answers in the details: Does this product include the Aiko 7 UVs for G8F, or have the materials been converted to Base Female? Have the materials been reworked to include Dual Lobe Specular Weight settings? I can see there is a difference between promo images with the two of each, but what am I seeing? Which render result is what I can expect if I use this product?

    As SpottedKitty said, this is becoming a trend:

    There have been way too many new items popping up in the store lately with just a few words of description.

    As a consumer, I expect more than the title of the product repeated in the "Details" section. I want a description. It doesn't have to be more than a few sentences, as long as it gives me the information I need to make a decision. If the information isn't there, my decision is usually going to be "no, I don't think I need that." Which means it doesn't make my wishlist, let alone my cart. That's just me, but I doubt I'm alone in this.

     

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  • 3Diva3Diva Posts: 11,970
    Havos said:

    What exactly is Aiko 7 for Aiko 8? 

    It it a UV? A clone shape? Either? Both? Neither? The description is really lacking detail. 

    The description is really lacking everything. Doesn't anyone at DAZ look at these things to check they make sense? There have been way too many new items popping up in the store lately with just a few words of description.

    While the description is short, I think it makes it clear what the product is:

    • Aiko 7 for Aiko 8: (.DUF)
      • Aiko 7 for Aiko 8 Character Preset
      • Aiko 7 Full Body Shape
      • Aiko 7 Head Shape
    • Aiko 7 Material:
      • Aiko 7 All
      • 6 Make-up Options
      • 4 Eye Color Options

    So based on the description it's head and body shape morphs that combine with Aiko 8's morph to give you Aiko 7's head and body shapes. As well as Aiko 7 mats - all that can be used on Genesis 8 Figures.

    I got this last night, and as you say, I am pretty sure that the Aiko 7 for Aiko 8 morph does need Aiko 8.

    Yeah, under "Required Products" it says Aiko 8 - so I'm sure she's needed to get the full Aiko 7 look. :)

  • 3Diva3Diva Posts: 11,970
    edited March 2018
    L'Adair said:

    What exactly is Aiko 7 for Aiko 8? 

    It it a UV? A clone shape? Either? Both? Neither? The description is really lacking detail. 

    The description is really lacking everything. Doesn't anyone at DAZ look at these things to check they make sense? There have been way too many new items popping up in the store lately with just a few words of description.

    While the description is short, I think it makes it clear what the product is:

    • Aiko 7 for Aiko 8: (.DUF)
      • Aiko 7 for Aiko 8 Character Preset
      • Aiko 7 Full Body Shape
      • Aiko 7 Head Shape
    • Aiko 7 Material:
      • Aiko 7 All
      • 6 Make-up Options
      • 4 Eye Color Options

    So based on the description it's head and body shape morphs that combine with Aiko 8's morph to give you Aiko 7's head and body shapes. As well as Aiko 7 mats - all that can be used on Genesis 8 Figures.

    Love you, Diva, but I have to agree with @SpottedKitty on this one.


    Five words does not a description make. In fact, for the Aiko 7 for Aiko 8 product, @Divamakeup gave a better description above. Tweaked a tiny bit I get: Aiko 7 for Aiko 8 gives you full-character, head, and body shape morphs specifically made to work with Aiko 8 to give you the Aiko 7 shape you know and love. But that's not all. Aiko 7 materials, including makeup and eye color options, are ready to use on Aiko 8 or any of your Genesis 8 female characters.

    It took me about 5 minutes to come up with that, maybe a little more. I believe Daz should have someone on staff who can proof, and augment descriptions, especially for PAs who are unable to write these blurbs due to language barriers. A good description can and, usually, does mean more sales in the long run.

    And here are some other things I'd like to know that could have answers in the details: Does this product include the Aiko 7 UVs for G8F, or have the materials been converted to Base Female? Have the materials been reworked to include Dual Lobe Specular Weight settings? I can see there is a difference between promo images with the two of each, but what am I seeing? Which render result is what I can expect if I use this product?

    As SpottedKitty said, this is becoming a trend:

    There have been way too many new items popping up in the store lately with just a few words of description.

    As a consumer, I expect more than the title of the product repeated in the "Details" section. I want a description. It doesn't have to be more than a few sentences, as long as it gives me the information I need to make a decision. If the information isn't there, my decision is usually going to be "no, I don't think I need that." Which means it doesn't make my wishlist, let alone my cart. That's just me, but I doubt I'm alone in this.

     

    Oh, yeah, I totally agree that a better description would be very helpful, I'm just saying I think that what IS given does tell you what you get. :) I do think that a better description would be good though. I thought the question was whether or not it was confusing as to what the product is - but just reading what's included tells you. However I agree that most customers want a better description of what they're getting and not including at least a quick rundown of what the product is in the "Details" area can probably affect sales. Customers want as much information as possible when deciding whether or not they want to take a chance on a product so just copying the product name into the "details" section is not something I'd recommend. lol

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  • WonderlandWonderland Posts: 7,133

    So does anyone know what Aiko 7 for Aiko 8 looks like without Aiko 8? We can make our own G3 for G8 characters if needed or wanted, I'm wondering what this new character brings to the gene pool if you don't dial in A8...

  • 3Diva3Diva Posts: 11,970

    So does anyone know what Aiko 7 for Aiko 8 looks like without Aiko 8? We can make our own G3 for G8 characters if needed or wanted, I'm wondering what this new character brings to the gene pool if you don't dial in A8...

    If you bought something over the past couple of days I think the product is like $3 or so in the cart. :) I might nab it and try it out - need to finish up some promo renders first though. :)

  • HavosHavos Posts: 5,575
    edited March 2018

    Since I have Aiko 7 for Aiko 8, but not Aiko 8, then I am in a good position to show you. Basically she is not that pretty (in my opinion), unless you like your females with huge thighs. Does not really look like Aiko 7 at all, so I guess in this case she is adding something different.

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  • WonderlandWonderland Posts: 7,133
    edited March 2018
    Havos said:

    Since I have Aiko 7 for Aiko 8, but not Aiko 8, then I am in a good position to show you. Basically she is not that pretty (in my opinion), unless you like your females with huge thighs. Does not really look like Aiko 7 at all, so I guess in this case she is adding something different.

    I thought her eyes would be bigger to compensate for A8's smaller eyes, but they look weird, like she's on drugs LOL!  Her mouth is kind of interesting though...

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  • y3kmany3kman Posts: 825

    Are we getting new sales one hour before DAZ midnight now?

  • AlmightyQUESTAlmightyQUEST Posts: 2,006

    No, but (most of) North America has entered daylight savings time, so DAZ midnight may have shifted relative to your time.

  • Cris PalominoCris Palomino Posts: 12,450
    Havos said:

    Since I have Aiko 7 for Aiko 8, but not Aiko 8, then I am in a good position to show you. Basically she is not that pretty (in my opinion), unless you like your females with huge thighs. Does not really look like Aiko 7 at all, so I guess in this case she is adding something different.

    I thought her eyes would be bigger to compensate for A8's smaller eyes, but they look weird, like she's on drugs LOL!  Her mouth is kind of interesting though...

    Well, makes sense since it's is supposed to be a morph that shapes Aiko 8 to Aiko 7.

  • tj_1ca9500btj_1ca9500b Posts: 2,057
    edited March 2018

    No, but (most of) North America has entered daylight savings time, so DAZ midnight may have shifted relative to your time.

    Arizona doesn't do Daylight savings time (go AZ!), as well as a few US territories, but the rest of the country does.  Florida is considering ditching 'Standard Time' in favor of Daylight savings year round currently, and a few other states are looking into ditching Daylight Savings...  I like to joke that Arizona changes time zones, as they are essentially on Pacific time half of the year, and Mountain time the other half...

    I'm not a fan of Daylight Savings time, so I'm hoping that the efforts to repeal Daylight Savings gain more traction.

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  • NathNath Posts: 2,941

    I'm getting DAZ Midnight (though it's really more DAZ half past twelve at the moment) an hour earlier for two weeks, until Europe goes to DST as well.

  • DeathKnightDeathKnight Posts: 98
    edited March 2018

    Looks like I'm finally hopping on the Platinum Club bandwagon, at least for a few months. With the Aiko 8 pro bundle plus 4 add-on items the quarterly membership is peanuts. Also the pro bundle with PC+ quarterly plus six additonal items winds up being the same price as just the pro bundle plus the quarterly membership. In total I'm getting everything in the list below for just under $76. For anyone on the fence about PC+, now might be the time to get a membership.

    [edit] Just realized I screwed up, lol. The Capsces poses are already part of the pro bundle. Looks like I'll have to get a refund on that. The store system really shouldn't allow you to buy an individual item that's already in a bundle in your cart.

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  • WandWWandW Posts: 2,891

    Is there a new bonus item today?

  • AtiAti Posts: 9,182
    WandW said:

    Is there a new bonus item today?

    The Bonus Madness Offer has this at an extra 70% off: https://www.daz3d.com/kincaid-for-genesis-8-male

  • NovicaNovica Posts: 23,924
    edited March 2018

    No, but (most of) North America has entered daylight savings time, so DAZ midnight may have shifted relative to your time.

    Arizona doesn't do Daylight savings time (go AZ!), as well as a few US territories, but the rest of the country does.  Florida is considering ditching 'Standard Time' in favor of Daylight savings year round currently,

    You're behind the times. :)  That passed our legislature, I believe it was last week. Takes Congressional approval (what a crock) to be implemented so we're probably talking YEARS before it happens. 

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  • AtiAti Posts: 9,182
    Novica said:

    No, but (most of) North America has entered daylight savings time, so DAZ midnight may have shifted relative to your time.

    Arizona doesn't do Daylight savings time (go AZ!), as well as a few US territories, but the rest of the country does.  Florida is considering ditching 'Standard Time' in favor of Daylight savings year round currently,

    You're behind the times. :)  That passed our legislature, I believe it was last week. Takes Congressional approval (what a crock) to be implemented so we're probably talking YEARS before it happens. 

    The EU is writing lengthy studies on the effects of not having DST. "People would be a lot happier." There. :D Done. :D Seriously, though, we've had DST for what, a hundred years? People somehow managed to survive before that, so I'm pretty sure we would again survive without it... :D

  • maikdeckermaikdecker Posts: 3,037
    Ati said:
    WandW said:

    Is there a new bonus item today?

    The Bonus Madness Offer has this at an extra 70% off: https://www.daz3d.com/kincaid-for-genesis-8-male

    Got him for $ 2.79 and I really like him. The scars are a bit over the top maybe, especially the one on his back, but all in all he's a bargain.

  • HavosHavos Posts: 5,575
    Ati said:
    Novica said:

    No, but (most of) North America has entered daylight savings time, so DAZ midnight may have shifted relative to your time.

    Arizona doesn't do Daylight savings time (go AZ!), as well as a few US territories, but the rest of the country does.  Florida is considering ditching 'Standard Time' in favor of Daylight savings year round currently,

    You're behind the times. :)  That passed our legislature, I believe it was last week. Takes Congressional approval (what a crock) to be implemented so we're probably talking YEARS before it happens. 

    The EU is writing lengthy studies on the effects of not having DST. "People would be a lot happier." There. :D Done. :D Seriously, though, we've had DST for what, a hundred years? People somehow managed to survive before that, so I'm pretty sure we would again survive without it... :D

    Given I am more a go to bed late, get up late sort of a person, I would prefer to have DST all year round rather than scrapping it. I mean, why should I care if it is dark at 7am?

  • Robert FreiseRobert Freise Posts: 4,573

    Being retired I just wish they would pick one time and stay with it

  • 3Diva3Diva Posts: 11,970

    It's dumb and needs to go. The original reasons behind the move are no longer valid and it hurts more than helps. https://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2015/03/time-to-kill-daylight-saving/387175/

  • dreamfarmerdreamfarmer Posts: 2,128

    So, this 'Shadow Thief' outfit that was just added to my Runtime, apparently as part of the basic Daz bundle. Thank you?

  • er...thanks daz for the manually added stuff??

  • Charlie JudgeCharlie Judge Posts: 13,242
    edited March 2018

    So, this 'Shadow Thief' outfit that was just added to my Runtime, apparently as part of the basic Daz bundle. Thank you?

    Rocker Outfit apparently was also added as part of the DAZ Studio 4 bundle

    Thanks for all the goodies, DAZ

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  • AtiAti Posts: 9,182
    edited March 2018

    I'm seeing four manually added items. I would not have noticed, LOL. :D Thank you! :)

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  • 3Diva3Diva Posts: 11,970
    Ati said:

    I'm seeing four manually added items. I would not have noticed, LOL. :D Thank you! :)

    Wow! They added 7 items to my DIM! NICE!! Thank you, DAZ!! laughyes

  • FSMCDesignsFSMCDesigns Posts: 12,843

    Yeah, just saw 5 new items added to my product list, thanks Daz!

  • SpottedKittySpottedKitty Posts: 7,232

    Just noticed this a couple of hours ago. It looks like they're additions to the D|S4.10 free content bundle.

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