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  • Ralf1958Ralf1958 Posts: 688
    EcVh0 said:
    Ralf1958 said:

    I have a general question about dForce. I am trying to make a long dress work properly. The issue I am encountering is, that when the dress falls on the floor and shrinks back, a few points remain pinned on the floor and are causing major distortions. I did set the floor as statik object and then increased its collision offset to 1. This seems to work. My question is, are there some other "secret" settings to avoid the pinning on the floor?

    That's a very interesting question, tbh, I haven't yet found a definitive easy solution to avoid things like that... sometimes you could try unlimiting the friction and set it to 0, but sometimes it does not work either...

     

    Actually I tryed to reduce the friction but it did not really helped. For now, setting the floor collision offset to 1 was the best solution. I will go on with different settings. Maybe lowering the floor and increasing the offset even more...

  • OdaaOdaa Posts: 1,548
    Ralf1958 said:

    I have a general question about dForce. I am trying to make a long dress work properly. The issue I am encountering is, that when the dress falls on the floor and shrinks back, a few points remain pinned on the floor and are causing major distortions. I did set the floor as statik object and then increased its collision offset to 1. This seems to work. My question is, are there some other "secret" settings to avoid the pinning on the floor?

    Do an animated drape and start the figure/dress slightly above the floor at frame 0, then lower it to the position you want a few frames later.

  • maikdeckermaikdecker Posts: 3,037
    Ralf1958 said:

    Actually I tryed to reduce the friction but it did not really helped. For now, setting the floor collision offset to 1 was the best solution. I will go on with different settings. Maybe lowering the floor and increasing the offset even more...

    First thing I would try would be using a primitive instead of the floor for the figure to stand on and the cloth to collide with. Primitive plane a couple cm thick, raised above the floor with the figure standing on it.

    No, there's no qualified reason to do it this way... it's just what my gut instincts tell me to try wink

  • Ralf1958Ralf1958 Posts: 688
    edited February 2018

    Thanks for all the tipps! I just gave up on that dress. I think not all older clothes are compatible with dForce. Some do and some other do not. I just tryed another thing and it turned out very well. :-)

    "Bardot" Top and Skirt from G8 adapted to G2/V6 with "AutoFit Clones Part 2" Freebie by Catherine3678a. Added dForce settings from "dForce Master - Cloth Simulation Presets" by EcVh0. The skirt needed a few manual tweakings.

    I really wish EcVh0 is willing to invest a few (many) hours in creating a dForce product with material settings like "silk", "satin", "velvet", "canvas", "veils", "jeans", "leather" and many others, in a one click solution. :-) That would be awesome! For me it would be an instant buy! :-)

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  • KaribouKaribou Posts: 1,325
    edited February 2018

    This product is awesome.  In theory, I know I could figure out cloth presets.  (I've been doing simulations in Poser for eons and the principles are the same.)  In reality, I got tired of watching my clothes slide off and explode.  I am SO glad that this exists -- serious timesaver!! 

    I just ran this simulation on the Highlander Outfit for G3M flawlessly with like 4 clicks.  This is my uber-fast test render -- lighting is awful, but you get the idea. (And please ignore the fact that he seems to be holding an invisible basketball.  He's eventually going to be caressing G3F's face, but I haven't gotten that far yet.)  I'm so, so, SO excited to finally be able to POSE PEOPLE KNEELING IN SKIRTS!!

    THANK YOU!

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  • EcVh0EcVh0 Posts: 535
    Ralf1958 said:

    Thanks for all the tipps! I just gave up on that dress. I think not all older clothes are compatible with dForce. Some do and some other do not. I just tryed another thing and it turned out very well. :-)

    Yeah unfortunately some are just not perfect in design so it just crashes the whole DAZ when trying to simulate them sad, but I hope it is a minority!

    Ralf1958 said:

    I really wish EcVh0 is willing to invest a few (many) hours in creating a dForce product with material settings like "silk", "satin", "velvet", "canvas", "veils", "jeans", "leather" and many others, in a one click solution. :-) That would be awesome! For me it would be an instant buy! :-)

    To be honest, I started this product with the purpose of creating dforce preset with different materials, but then I swap to cloth based category instead because I realize I do not know well about how every single material behaves... (time to study more haha!) but if I do figure everything out, I will make one and it will be a general material presets wink

  • EcVh0EcVh0 Posts: 535
    Karibou said:

    This product is awesome.  In theory, I know I could figure out cloth presets.  (I've been doing simulations in Poser for eons and the principles are the same.)  In reality, I got tired of watching my clothes slide off and explode.  I am SO glad that this exists -- serious timesaver!! 

    I just ran this simulation on the Highlander Outfit for G3M flawlessly with like 4 clicks.  This is my uber-fast test render -- lighting is awful, but you get the idea. (And please ignore the fact that he seems to be holding an invisible basketball.  He's eventually going to be caressing G3F's face, but I haven't gotten that far yet.)  I'm so, so, SO excited to finally be able to POSE PEOPLE KNEELING IN SKIRTS!!

    THANK YOU!

    wooooo! Looking amazing! I'm glad it works well on male outfits as well! laugh

  • evilded777evilded777 Posts: 2,482

    Throwing in my two cents, this has been very helpful.

     

    The "Extra options" could be a little more clear.  I'm not always sure what the graphics are trying to tell me, and it seems like some of them go in order from least to most and others go from most to least (but that could just be me being confused).

    Some other, more obiouvs presets really should be included: Cape, Cloak, Hooded Cloak....but hey, there's quite a few here.

    Add a weight map here and there and look carefully at what materials are being dynamic and you can make most anything dynamic with these presets.

  • FenixPhoenixFenixPhoenix Posts: 3,181

    I just bought this products and had a chance to try it in a couple of tests... I LOVE IT! No issues for me so far and I'm excited to use the rest of the presets!

    I do echo what has been pointed out here, which is that the thumbnails don't really give me a proper indication of how one preset varies from another. For example, the thumbnail shows the same dress in all the "dress presets" but I don't see the difference between each one (in the thumbnails). If I have the time, I might just do a bunch of renders with the same clothing (using each preset) and compile it in a PDF for reference.

  • OdaaOdaa Posts: 1,548

    One of the dress presets just saved my bacon with an old Poser Dynamic I was trying to use on G3M (rosemaryr's M4 toga, scaled to avoid pokethrough.) When I tried it last night with base dForce settings, I got a simulation error, this morning with EchV0's preset it worked. :)

  • FenixPhoenixFenixPhoenix Posts: 3,181

    Just in case it's useful for anybody, I've been slowly using all the presets in different garments and rendering them to create an unofficial visual guide of sorts. You can find it here. 

  • fastbike1fastbike1 Posts: 4,078

    @Gigi_FenixPhoenix

    Thanks a bunch. I really appreciate the resource and the work involved. 

  • FenixPhoenixFenixPhoenix Posts: 3,181
    fastbike1 said:

    @Gigi_FenixPhoenix

    Thanks a bunch. I really appreciate the resource and the work involved. 

    You're welcome :). It is indeed a massive amount of work, so I'll take me a while to finish it, but I think it'll be worth it.

  • fastbike1fastbike1 Posts: 4,078

    @Gigi_FenixPhoenix "so I'll take me a while to finish it, but I think it'll be worth it"

    Wouldn't want to argue, but you're too modest here. It's already worth it! laugh

  • yangzyyangzy Posts: 0

    @EcVh0

    I tried the belle dress and princess Ensemble,there two are messed up.Cloud you provide some more detailed information about presets for each surface.

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