Not To Worry, Friend, "There's Always Another Sale™"

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  • 3Diva3Diva Posts: 11,970
    Orpheus13 said:
    NSFW said:

    Apparently it is this https://www.daz3d.com/h-c-business-suit-b-for-genesis-3-male-s as referenced here https://www.daz3d.com/gallery/#images/449636/

    Orpheus13 said:

    And what I want to know is : where does this wonderful-looking outfit come from ?!?

    Thanks. G3 though, guess I'll wait a bit to see what comes up in G8.

    Any G3 clothing can be worn on G8. For that matter Any G1 and G2 clothing can also be warn on G8. Genesis 8 comes with clones for past Genesis figures allowing G8 to wear the older clothing.

  • Orpheus13Orpheus13 Posts: 274

    Any G3 clothing can be worn on G8. For that matter Any G1 and G2 clothing can also be warn on G8. Genesis 8 comes with clones for past Genesis figures allowing G8 to wear the older clothing.

    Yes I know Diva, but the result is seldom satisfying and often troublesome, from my short experience...

  • jakibluejakiblue Posts: 7,281

    I kinda agree with Orpheus13. The autofit for G3 stuff on G8 can still be problematic. Sickleyield's tut gives better results usually, but not all G3 stuff fits well. 

    And don't ever raise G8F's arms..... 

    Orpheus13 said:

    Any G3 clothing can be worn on G8. For that matter Any G1 and G2 clothing can also be warn on G8. Genesis 8 comes with clones for past Genesis figures allowing G8 to wear the older clothing.

    Yes I know Diva, but the result is seldom satisfying and often troublesome, from my short experience...

     

  • 3Diva3Diva Posts: 11,970
    jakiblue said:

    I kinda agree with Orpheus13. The autofit for G3 stuff on G8 can still be problematic. Sickleyield's tut gives better results usually, but not all G3 stuff fits well. 

    And don't ever raise G8F's arms..... 

    Orpheus13 said:

    Any G3 clothing can be worn on G8. For that matter Any G1 and G2 clothing can also be warn on G8. Genesis 8 comes with clones for past Genesis figures allowing G8 to wear the older clothing.

    Yes I know Diva, but the result is seldom satisfying and often troublesome, from my short experience...

     

    What do you mean, don't raise her arms?

  • Orpheus13Orpheus13 Posts: 274
    jakiblue said:

    I kinda agree with Orpheus13. The autofit for G3 stuff on G8 can still be problematic. Sickleyield's tut gives better results usually, but not all G3 stuff fits well. 

    And don't ever raise G8F's arms..... 

    Orpheus13 said:

    Any G3 clothing can be worn on G8. For that matter Any G1 and G2 clothing can also be warn on G8. Genesis 8 comes with clones for past Genesis figures allowing G8 to wear the older clothing.

    Yes I know Diva, but the result is seldom satisfying and often troublesome, from my short experience...

     

    What do you mean, don't raise her arms?

    He must dislike arm hair. laugh

  • NovicaNovica Posts: 23,924

    With the discount (check your messages in your account, as usual, there's no orange banner yet), the PC+ discount, and then using the DO coupon from PC+, the Pro Bundle is a sweet deal. I'd hate NOT to be a PC member right now. If everyone who got slighted would use the Help and do "general feedback" I wonder if it would help. I think the main thing going in your favor is indeed that 50% off to non-members offer that happened,  while PC+ members don't get that option offered now.

  • NovicaNovica Posts: 23,924

    What do you mean, don't raise her arms?

    I am assuming distortion or poke through.

  • L'AdairL'Adair Posts: 9,479
    jakiblue said:

    I kinda agree with Orpheus13. The autofit for G3 stuff on G8 can still be problematic. Sickleyield's tut gives better results usually, but not all G3 stuff fits well. 

    And don't ever raise G8F's arms..... 

    Orpheus13 said:

    Any G3 clothing can be worn on G8. For that matter Any G1 and G2 clothing can also be warn on G8. Genesis 8 comes with clones for past Genesis figures allowing G8 to wear the older clothing.

    Yes I know Diva, but the result is seldom satisfying and often troublesome, from my short experience...

     

    What do you mean, don't raise her arms?

    I believe it's the T-Pose versus A-Pose issue, discussed at length in other threads. There are pros and cons to both. 

    Although I did rather like @Orpheus13's answer.
    laugh

  • InkuboInkubo Posts: 745

    Today's BOYB is working seemlessly for me: there is one product display box that appears after Quickening Decay for Parkside Point, but no product ever loads into it for me. I've tried several times on an iPhone and also on a Mac. I have reloaded the page, closed and reopened the page, killed and restarted my browser—nothing works. There's always just a box with a spinning circle in it.

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  • Inkubo said:

    Today's BOYB is working seemlessly for me: there is one product display box that appears after Quickening Decay for Parkside Point, but no product ever loads into it for me. I've tried several times on an iPhone and also on a Mac. I have reloaded the page, closed and reopened the page, killed and restarted my browser—nothing works. There's always just a box with a spinning circle in it.

    Yep - I think everyone's got that - apparently it's an item that was removed rom the store so it's causing swirliness

  • Pack58Pack58 Posts: 750
    Inkubo said:

    . . there is one product display box that appears after Quickening Decay for Parkside Point, but no product ever loads into it for me. . .

    Same.

  • WandWWandW Posts: 2,891
    edited October 2017

    According to the Lucas 8 product page, nothing is included:

    What's Included and Features

    na


    There is no readme up yet, either...

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  • dreamfarmerdreamfarmer Posts: 2,128
    edited October 2017

    I can’t help but find it hilarious that people are already snubbing G3 stuff. I mean, I don’t blame them. I was uneasy about G2 stuff when I started. I just feel very much... on the other side of where I was 14 months ago.

     

    eta: I will say this is the sale where I learned to love the older stuff too and I hope that happens for other newer folks. 

    Post edited by dreamfarmer on
  • Orpheus13Orpheus13 Posts: 274

    I can’t help but find it hilarious that people are already snubbing G3 stuff. I mean, I don’t blame them. I was uneasy about G2 stuff when I started. I just feel very much... on the other side of where I was 14 months ago.

     

    eta: I will say this is the sale where I learned to love the older stuff too and I hope that happens for other newer folks. 

    Well, my reasons for it are simple and numerous :

    • on average the G8 is much more realistic, and it's what I'm looking for ; at first I mixed both generations in a scene and you could always tell the G3.
    • on average the clothes, hair and others are better for G8 (or to be more precise are getting better over time so those made for G8 are better)
    • you can't use many items (poses, some clothes and accessories) made for one generation in another one, at least not without buying and using additional ressources. And those you can are often troublesome.

    So, as I come at the exact right time to get into G8, yeah, I snub G3. :)

  • FSMCDesignsFSMCDesigns Posts: 12,843

    I can’t help but find it hilarious that people are already snubbing G3 stuff. I mean, I don’t blame them. I was uneasy about G2 stuff when I started. I just feel very much... on the other side of where I was 14 months ago.

     

    eta: I will say this is the sale where I learned to love the older stuff too and I hope that happens for other newer folks. 

    Agreed. been here 11+ years and have learned to get the most out of my addons and the program so I don't have to rely on plug and play..

    I am all about realism, but I haven't seen much to make me jump on the G8 bandwagon yet, but to each their own.

  • LlynaraLlynara Posts: 4,772

    I think Wear Them All for G8 will be a game changer. The autofit will hopefully work a lot better. It certainly was a godsend for G3. I love G8 but if a character is offered in both, I tend to use G3 simply because I have more tools and options at this point and the fitting is so much easier. That may change as I continue to invest in G8 tools. Very excited to see what's coming next! 

  • TooncesToonces Posts: 919

    Dual lobe has the potential of increasing G8 realism, since most new skins using it will be for G8. However, I'm holding out for the next Anagenessis or V3D product. I imagine they'll incorporate dual lobe and anything that works on G8 skins has a high probability of working on G3 skins.

  • LlynaraLlynara Posts: 4,772
    edited October 2017
    L'Adair said:
    "Hey, let's attract some non-PC members who wouldn't pay the regular price to the PC+"

    Yes, I believe it was an attempt to attract the people who really don't like subscriptions of any kind.. the real hard-line sceptics.

    Fair enough.

    And what does Daz plan on doing for existing members who now feel marginalized by the several discounted membership offers last summer that members couldn't take advantage of?

    That's really for marketing for decide.  I do my best to make the PC as attractive as possible, to justify even the full price of admission.    Currently the annual memberships, even at 20% off, works out at $4.67 a month.. which is less than the cost of the coupons and freebies etc.

    And you do a fine job of it, Jack. yes I paid full price for my first year and didn't regret it. I extend it whenever there's a good sale. I'm renewed through 2019. laugh

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  • firewardenfirewarden Posts: 1,486
    Agreed. been here 11+ years and have learned to get the most out of my addons and the program so I don't have to rely on plug and play..

    I am all about realism, but I haven't seen much to make me jump on the G8 bandwagon yet, but to each their own.

    Strangely enough, I think G3 is more realistic looking. G8 tends to look more like plastic dolls, imo. Very weird faces also. Sticking w/G3 for the time being.

  • LlynaraLlynara Posts: 4,772
    Toonces said:

    Dual lobe has the potential of increasing G8 realism, since most new skins using it will be for G8. However, I'm holding out for the next Anagenessis or V3D product. I imagine they'll incorporate dual lobe and anything that works on G8 skins has a high probability of working on G3 skins.

    That should be fairly soon. DimensionZ mentioned on his DeviantArt posts that he's submitted it. Can't wait! NGS Anagenessis 3, dForce and Wear Them All are fantastic tools.

  • dragotxdragotx Posts: 1,147
    Toonces said:

    Dual lobe has the potential of increasing G8 realism, since most new skins using it will be for G8. However, I'm holding out for the next Anagenessis or V3D product. I imagine they'll incorporate dual lobe and anything that works on G8 skins has a high probability of working on G3 skins.

    Check out his Deviant Art page, the next Anagensis is very far through production already, and the renders he's been showing are astounding.

  • Pack58 said:
    Inkubo said:

    . . there is one product display box that appears after Quickening Decay for Parkside Point, but no product ever loads into it for me. . .

    Same.

    I'm having this problem too.

  • mtl1mtl1 Posts: 1,508
    edited October 2017

    So... the Wynter Hair bundle just lost the add to cart button, but it's still there on the promo page??

     

    Also, I'm really enjoying this sale :) Nice job, Jack yes

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  • I'm not opposed to any version 8 stuff, but nothing has caught my eye yet except Honey.  And I only got her for the antenna.  The problem I have now is if I try to put them on G3F, they loose their bone parameters.  Is there a way to transfer my G3F character morphs to G8F?  And skins, and...

  • mtl1mtl1 Posts: 1,508

    I'm not opposed to any version 8 stuff, but nothing has caught my eye yet except Honey.  And I only got her for the antenna.  The problem I have now is if I try to put them on G3F, they loose their bone parameters.  Is there a way to transfer my G3F character morphs to G8F?  And skins, and...

    You could try parenting, or use the Transfer Utility with Merge Hierarchies? Then again, they're probably geografts, so you may have to do some additional tweaking.

  • scorpioscorpio Posts: 8,533
    L'Adair said:
    "Hey, let's attract some non-PC members who wouldn't pay the regular price to the PC+"

    Yes, I believe it was an attempt to attract the people who really don't like subscriptions of any kind.. the real hard-line sceptics.

    Fair enough.

    And what does Daz plan on doing for existing members who now feel marginalized by the several discounted membership offers last summer that members couldn't take advantage of?

    That's really for marketing for decide.  I do my best to make the PC as attractive as possible, to justify even the full price of admission.    Currently the annual memberships, even at 20% off, works out at $4.67 a month.. which is less than the cost of the coupons and freebies etc.

    In my case its not so much about the value of the PC but about the slap in the face to PC members, I had less than a week, I think, left in my membership when they offered non PC members 50% off, I've been a member for years and often paid full price, it just seemed to me that they really don't care whether people rejoin or not, they are much more interested in new members than showing any appreciation to long term members.

  • dreamfarmerdreamfarmer Posts: 2,128

    Think of it this way: the goal is to sign people up _and then convince them it's worth full price (or only a mild discount) to renew_. If they haven't done that for you, the failure is on them and you can simply not renew. If you DO think it's worth the money, then the more people who sign up, the better. Yeah? And if you HAVE been a member for years, well, there's tons of products you got for free that I am jealous of because now they're DOs and DO priced (not even PC+ priced) and I have to pay for them if I want them.

  • agent unawaresagent unawares Posts: 3,513
    edited October 2017

    I'm not opposed to any version 8 stuff, but nothing has caught my eye yet except Honey.  And I only got her for the antenna.  The problem I have now is if I try to put them on G3F, they loose their bone parameters.  Is there a way to transfer my G3F character morphs to G8F?  And skins, and...

    Yes. All G3F skins that use the base UVs already work on G8F. You can transfer character morphs using Singular Blues' script. You can use the plethora of bizarro G7 base UVs with Redz' product. You can change clothes through autofit or by using Sickleyield's method (which is much better). Hair and other things that only involve the torso or face can be easily switched over just by changing scene identification to G8F, since the head and torso geometry and rigging stayed the same.

    -cough-and i have pose fixes here-cough-

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  • Jackson’s Field and the Medieval Hall are now PC+ items which makes them super cheap for some large, versatile sets. 

    BOTH were on my WL...Yay!  Nice thing about just a large groundscape like Jackson's Field, is that you can use it to place other props and houses.  Add a ring of billboard trees and you've got an instant clearing in the woods.  I consider the farm buildings and props to be some nice extras.  The Apple Orchard is another good set for that.

  • scorpioscorpio Posts: 8,533

    Think of it this way: the goal is to sign people up _and then convince them it's worth full price (or only a mild discount) to renew_. If they haven't done that for you, the failure is on them and you can simply not renew. If you DO think it's worth the money, then the more people who sign up, the better. Yeah? And if you HAVE been a member for years, well, there's tons of products you got for free that I am jealous of because now they're DOs and DO priced (not even PC+ priced) and I have to pay for them if I want them.

    I've not renewed and have also not bought a DO since my membership ran out, I would most likely buy the new male figure pro bundle but won't because its a DO.

    I'm not quite sure what you mean by things I got free, if you mean the weekly and monthly freebies then they often get used as free things in other promotions, where you can get them free with a purchase, I got them free because I had paid for my membership if you had been a paid up member at the time then you would have got them free as well.

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