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To those asking about the difference between Filter Forge 4 and Filter Forge 6 and why they are both available: we have sold version 4.0 here for over two years and planned to remove it from the store once Filter Forge 6 is approved. You should definitely not buy Filter Forge 4 now, as the sixth version is clearly superior.
Hi Jane. If you want to get rid of the alphbet spaghetti added to your username please pop over here https://www.daz3d.com/customer/account/edit/
That is added to avoid duplication of forum names
We have already requested the addition of info as to being Pro Edition on the store pages.
There is one more confusion on the Filter Forge product page here. There is a Mac version of Filter Forge but only the Windows one is offered on the DAZ store. Note that our license terms only allow you to use Filter Forge on a single computer.
If you've already bought Filter Forge from DAZ and want to use it on Mac, please contact our support team via https://www.filterforge.com/contact/ ; They're ready to soothe and comfort you AND swap your license key for a Mac-compatible one.
Look, I managed to do this.
And thank you for drawing my attention to this alphabet spaghetti.
Good, glad you got it worked out, I have now bookmarked this page so I can link others to it when they have questions, so don't run away. It's always nice to have someone from the company to answer questions.
@Jane from Filter Forge
Thanks for the update on the mac version. I've used the contact form to request a proper mac serial. Although the page here at DAZ needs still to be updated as the decription still states a mac version:
Also the "compatible software" part of the details does not have any entry. Either that should be corrected or you should provide a mac version and a fitting serial.
Thanks,
RWD
@Chohole Okay, I'll be here for sure until the Filter Forge product page raises so many questions.
We asked the guys at Daz3D to change the Filter Forge product page already, so we can now just wait. And meanwhile answer your questions here :)
Hi, Jane, and welcome to the forums. I finally caved in and have been playing with the program non-stop since Sunday morning--this thing is darn addictive--so most of my issues have already been proven completely trivial, but thanks for your answer, I am sure I'll be bugging you with equally trivial questions once I dare try the batch processing :)
Now, one more for the road: asides from copy-pasting, which features does the version 7 have that would make an upgrade desirable?
Off to submit a ticket to return, my computer installed filter force on is mostly always offline so if I can't download the filters then I guess it's kinda useless to keep and I can't buy another copy for my laptop just to download the filters
Hi Jane,
When will FF 7 be hitting?
Thanks Jane.. sent a letter to start the process.
@Uthgard, We are now on the Beta Stage 3 and here you can read about all the features added here https://www.filterforge.com/download/beta7/ The main feature for all users is copy and paste support, for filter authors we have instant component search and mappable lists and sliders in the Filter Editor. And of course. we worked hard to improve the speed of rendering.
In cases like yours we recomment to buy Filter Library Backup and Librarian (both for $69). You'll have all the filters available offline on your computer. All you need to download is one EXE file (200MB).
Learn more https://www.filterforge.com/buy/librarian.html
It is secret even for me.
Doubling the price just to use it offline? (and not get newer filters from the day you bought it?) Seems excessive. May I ask why you've gone this route?
Offline users also can't upload their own filters to share. (Not that I've got one yet - but within 5 minutes of playing around in the filter editor (using the demo version), I managed to create a half-decent distressed-brick wall texture - I'm sure I'll have some worth sharing in the future).
Seems my laptop can run FF6, just a bit slow.
I'm still contemplating getting it - just can't decide if it's worth the slower laptop just to use premade filters, or whether I can get the results I want with the faster offline machine.
You have to purchase another copy to use on another computer I have a laptop too but I can't afford to buy another copy let alone the optional route, If I was to upgrade as to 7 as well I'd have to fork over another $69 for filters for that version, I'd rather spend the money I don't technically have here
I'm aware of this workaround - but unfortunately, as dkgoose said, the license terms state that FF may only be installed to one machine per license. (and filters can't even be downloaded without FF installed on the download machine).
Since there is even a legal workaround (involving uninstalling from one machine, installing on another to download filters, keeping the library files backed up, uninstalling and reinstalling - just incredibly time-consuming), I'm wondering what the point of the terms are. Anyone not abiding by the license terms can do it easily, and this just restricts legitimate users. (also makes it seem more of a technicality than a necessary term).
A lot of other software allows for a program to be installed on more than one machine, but only used by a single user on one machine at a time.
Yes it's very weird to me that FF still comes with only a single, single-machine license instead of at least allowing two machines so people can work on a desktop and while mobile. It discourages from using FF to the full extent.
I like when Filter Forge is offered here on Daz cause I can save up store credit throughout the year to buy it. Kinda like a savings account. It's a bit harder to do it through them cause money is always questionable. In the past I just upgraded every so many years. I need to learn how to do filters better so I can put them up for download on their site so I can earn free or lifetime updates.
HAHAHA... okey dokey then!
So as I can see you have 4 workarounds:
1. You buy one Filter Forge license and use it on your laptop. Pros: the cheapest variant, you can download filters when you wish and can submit your filters to the library. Con: Filter Forge works slower than on desktop.
2. You buy one Filter Forge license, Filter Library Backup and Librarian and use it on your desktop. Pros: Filter Forge works fast, you don't need internet connection, you can create your own filters (the second part of this sentence see in "cons" section). Cons: this varian is more expensive, you can't submit your filters, you need to refresh your Filter Library Backup zip-file once a month or two.
3. You buy two Filter Forge licenses and use them on both laptop and desktop. Pros: Filter Forge works fast, you have internet connection to download and submit filters. Cons: this variant is as expensive as the previous one (now, later it will be more expensive).
4. You download a free 30-day fully-functional trial and create as many wonderful filters as you can. Three of your filters get High usage rank and we give you a free Filter Forge license. Read more about this here https://www.filterforge.com/more/freecopy.html
I hope this helps to make the right decision.
Well...FINAL FANTASY 7 REMAKE has not been given a release date yet, sorry. (FF7 was released in 1997.) I still have my Final Fantasy 7 t-shirt from its launch back then, though it is worse for wear.
On the topic of FILTER FORGE, I offer one more option for using a single license on multiple machines...streaming the master machine to the laptop through a remote app. You can still be offline if you use a local WIFI network. As a bonus, since the laptop is only streaming, the software performance will be that of your desktop, streaming doesn't hurt performance on the desktop much (unless it is a really weak machine.) All you need is decent WIFI.
One thing to bear in mind with Filter Forge, on their site it is almost continuously on sale for 80% off. It will say "only 1 day left" and it may go up to merely 40% or 50% off for a little while but it will be back to 80% off very shortly. So what I'm saying is: if it's not at least 80% off then it's not the time to buy, give it a few days and then go for it. Just something I noticed because I waffled for a long while on getting it and would visit their site a lot and saw the pattern.
And sure enough, it's 80% off today but only 1 day left.
I have really been wanting to grab filter forge while it's on sale yet when I try to go to their website to view all the specs, features, etc, their website will not load for me....not in firefox, chrome or edge. It's been like that for four straight days. If I can't connect to the website then how would it register my product much less access the library files? Anyone else having this problem or know how I can fix it? I would love to use it to make some normal maps for iray use. I may just end up having to install the normal map plug-in for Gimp.
no problems using the site here (running Waterfox 54 - same as Firefox 54).
If all you want is to make normal maps, then AwesomeBump can convert height maps (and is free) or the Gimp plugin works okay. Both would be easier to use than filter forge (which is more versatile and can produce a lot more varied results).
One thing to keep in mind is that just running an image through a normal map generator or filter will more often then not produce a less than desirable effect... More often it is better to manually make a template image for the normal map based on the original photo... Or use an image generating software like Filter Forge that is capable of generating a normal map in addition to the diffuse (and or full color image).
This is a pretty good tutorial/explaination of what I mean: https://www.katsbits.com/tutorials/textures/how-not-to-make-normal-maps-from-photos-or-images.php
Is it just me, or are the normal maps from Filter Forge coming out backwards to the ones DS uses? (In other words, inverting the green channel is needed - easy enough). Is there a way in program to reverse that or do I need to use GIMP?
Tools>Options>Rendering>Normal map generation>OpenGL