ANSWERED: Applying G3 Expression Morph (ERC) Dials to G8?
xyer0
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Does anyone know of a way to get G3 expression morph dials to appear in the Parameters tab of G8? That is, short of making new ones.
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Nope!
Look, it's like this. These things are text files. The text files have pointers in them that point to a particular figure. So all things G3F point to G3F.
So far so good. Now, a morph also has vertex data which doesn't point to anything except the index number of the vertex. You would think this would be simple to swap between figures but different figure have different vertex indicies, so it doesn't work.
Expressions aren't always morphs, but are sometimes. So you have a very simple problem. The verticies are out of order, and the pointers don't point at the right figure. Now, there are many fairly simple methods for geting a pure morph (verts) from one figure to another, but they all involve making a "new" morph.
There exists no way, inside of Studio, to even access the "pointers" much less switch them between figures. It can be done, but it isn't simple (really freaking complex, actually) and you end up making a new morph, basically. There's no tool, as yet, that can do it. The fact that I know it can be done means there probably will be a tool some day (If I know, someone else will eventually, if not already. I'm not magic or anything), but right now, none is in the offing.
@Singular_Blues Thank you, once again, for your conversational and cogent reply.
I think you should be able to use Redz G3F to G8F morph transfer tutorial to transfer them and save them as a pose preset or a morph.
Thanks, divamakeup. I'll try that once I begin moving G3F morphs over. I'm hoping someone will automate the process (write a script) in the coming weeks so I can avoid the hassle.
If you didn't mind doing it the hard way, I explained it in the other question on this topic in this forum. You can save the morph (using Tranfer Utility, but otherwise per Redz tut. You have to use TU because the vertys in the face are just too close together for the dial method to work reliably) and then export the expression as a pose preset. But you need to take etra steps, as I outlined, using ERC bake or the pose preset will just be the expression dial that G8 doesn't have yet.
Sorry I didn't go into more detail, but I'm trying to cut back on infodumping.
I don't mind the extra info, but I didn't see this question in the G3 to G8 Morphs thread (although I cannot say that I did not gloss over it absentmindedly).
Not the morphs thread. This is the second thread to ask this sepcific question. Here's the first: https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/184951/transfer-expression-g3-g8
I didn't know if you'd seen that or not, but I also didn't go into it because what I described there is pretty much the opposite of easy.
It's not exactly rocket science, either, but it's fiddly and a bit tedious. Should work, though.