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Those are under Windows Accessories or Windows Administrative Tools in the Start menu.
Well no wonder I couldn't find Notepad under "N" for example...
Thanks Richard; I couldn't think of where they were, just that I knew they didn't require Cortana.
a friend who has been in computers since 8 bit octal and commodore 64s..
says that if you go on line and get the info about the extra crap (calling home etc) to disable... that functionally it is the best windows yet... way ahead of eight.
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I still use 7pro 64 but I have a huge assortment of programs that still work together and will avoid up-grading
because Adobe does stuff like drop support for the kindle plug-in in Indesign (now there's a phrase.
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but I will keep a back up machine as necessary as the time comes...
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regarding whether windows will support current processors etc..
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either you are spending thousands and doing huge renders in seven seconds and want to do it in 3 secords
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or you are getting over the counter machines which leave you as the mercy of the company that made it
instead of researching what you need and finding a friendly nerd who likss to build.
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asus motherboard 64 gig ddr4 dual xeon 2630 v3 (used processors) 980ti with 6 g of ram... $2000 built it myself...
(truthfully , if you really understand figure rigging and morphing and that stuff... (me, not yet)
then you have the smarts (and determination) to figure out what you need and how to screw and plug the pieces together... it's simple compared to building a figure, it's just another skill set
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I can shove 32 gig daz scenes around and the render varies by the video card either the ti 1050 or the 980ti
but evga has the 1090 or whatever that top one is with 11g for $650...
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don't buy a machime....
figure out what you need...
this replaced my 18g machince because the scenes were too big ... but I can still render on that machine with the card.
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this board will hold 256g of 16g rams sticks or a terbyte of 64s... outside of upgrading the processors.. I figure this will render for a long time... as long as Daz doesn't orphan 4.9 or later versions so they don't work on win 7....
Here is a table you will find interesting.. As you can see Windows 10 Home 64 bit can use up to 128 Gig of ram, while Windows 10 Pro 64 bit can use up to 2 Terabytes of ram.. This is what was different about Windows 10 and for that matter Windows 8.1 you did not have to buy the 64 bit pro version to be able to use more ram..
Though in the case of Windows 10 Pro x64 bit and up you can access way, way more ram..
https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/aa366778
Physical Memory Limits: Windows 10
The following table specifies the limits on physical memory for Windows 10.
4 GB
2TB
4 GB
2TB
4 GB
2TB
4 GB
128GB
...you have to mess with the registry even in in the Pro Edition? That is very low on the list of things I feel confident in doing.
To loosely paraphrase Uncle Owen from the original Star Wars film: " I have no use for a digital assistant, what I need is an OS that doesn't get in the way of my work.".
...yeah, but even 1 TB of memory will easily run you into five digits pricewise. 128GB is the most practical upper end limit for a total beast of a workstation especially if you still do raytrace rendering like for animation, and that still costs over a grand.
Honestly, its one of the reason I really dislike windows. You shouldn't have to update and install a lot of stuff after any update. The things that work and are installed should still work and be installed. Its ridiculous. I have Win7 on my home PC and my laptop and intend to keep it for as long as I possibly can. My computer guy will install it on anything new I buy if necessary. I also really dislike the fact that Microsoft feels that it can dictate anything it wants to it users. I paid for the PC and it now belongs to me. I should be able to not load an update if I don't want to. And I usually don't want to.
Yeah 1 Terabyte is overkill, but it would be nice to have that amount of ram imagine what you could do that amount of ram installed.. :)
If you see my other thread https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/184046/ot-psa-microsoft-drop-win7-win8-1-support-for-latest-gen-cpu-s#latest MS is stopping Win7 & Win 8.1 update support for Intel KabyLake and up as well as AMD Ryzen and up based systems, to get people to adopt Win 10..
...that's why I am drawing the line at Broadwell Xeons.
Hopefully as the newer generations CPUs make their inroads, the prices of older high core CPUs (10, 12, 16, etc) will drop like they did for older generations. Wouldn't mind running dual 22 core E5 2699 V4s for a total of 88 threads and 80 PCI lanes. Wouldn't be "Epyc" (pun intended), but pretty darn close.
I have windows 10 Pro on two PC's and you don't have to disable via the registry. You can use Group Policy to disable pretty will anything. Especially location trackers which windows 10 is famous for and logging all your searches etc. Humming this is how you do it ... do it.
edit: oops only uploaded 2 jpgs . Here's the other 3. Forgive my crude writing but I learned it from Dreamlight's tutorials ;D
They can certainly try to force me but I will run 7 until I can't anymore and then I may just switch to a Mac, or maybe Linux. I dislike anyone who basically has a monopoly and tries to force me to use something I don't want to use. I have windows 10 at work and honestly, if it wasn't for the mass intrusiveness and crap on it, as well as forced updates I could probably live with it. I will be bookmarking this page for future reference and will give the above a try on the work pc. Microsoft may be king now but just like anything else, if you irritate people badly enough for a long enough time, eventually, people will look for other ways to do things.
If anyone gets windows 10 get the prox64 version because you can control everything via group policy including Microsoft edge and permanently stopping updates or making them ask permission before they download disabling one drive, selecting programs to stay offline etc. Re: memory, I have 64 gb of ripjaws memory and find it more than enough.
Aging myself her. My first pc was a radio shack tandyand there was no gui just dos.
I personally hate windows 10. I prefer my os stripped of extras. I'd be still using XP if I could. All I want my computer to do is run my programs. I don't need Microsoft spywear, I don't want apps, I don't want cortana, I just want all my processing power to go to my programs. Just running 10 alone takes too much procesisng power. I'd rather save it for my apps.
My new machine came with OS 10, and there are obvious bugs. It is clear this is a machine designed to run 8, that they put windows 10 on. The trackpad is a nightmare, it swims around and when I type in makes the cursor jump around. I had the same experience when I upgraded my last notebook from 8- it was a driver issue. The manufacturer also used generic drivers, and so good luck getting a fiix for that. 10's generic drivers are not always updated and can be pretty crummy.
The first thing I did when I got 10 was optimize it so it runs smooth and lean. But I still hate it. I absolutely don't want or need bells and whistles and if I could downgrade even to 8 I would prefer it.
...thanks that makes it a lot easier. So what happens if you keep the system offline?
...I used to work in command line on Unix systems as well as with punched cards and punched tape. DOS on an early PC seemed like childsplay in comparison. Ever use a Sage II Micro? Creating documents on one was loads of fun....NOT, as you had to manually embed printer format codes in the document back then to get paragraph breaks/indents, page breaks, type styles, lines, etc. For "high quality" final printouts, the file had to be submitted to the queue for one of the daisy wheel impact printers. For drafts we just used the the standard line printers.
They don't get windows updates and crash. I have two new custom builds, one I keep offline and the other I am using right now. I own over a dozen pcs ranging from xps, vista, windows and two are Linux/Apache servers. No One day during a windows system update update, three systems (with older versions of windows) turned into zombies with the black screen of death. One had to be tossed the other two had to have new harddrives etc and cost me more than Sams Club pc to fix. One of the towers, an old sony vaio (2002) I used exclusively as a web development machine and the motherboard finally went bad last year but it's sister, the laptop still works.. I hate windows so much I just bought a new MacBook Pro (am dreading the learning curve) because supposedly that type of crap doesn't happen with Macs. The main reason I keep most PC's offline is because when they auto update some programs become obsolute obsolete or have hicups. I just wish I had installed picasso on one of the offline pc's.
Can't remember anything about Sage II and I can't imagine embedding printer codes in MS-DOS. I remember staying up all night coding hundreds of GO TO lines just to have it freak out my employees, by knowing their names based on answers to certain questions. The printer was dot matrix and the external drives were floppies.
edit. obsolute == obsolete
https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_7-update/windows-7-frozen-during-update-at-please-do-not/8a5e7375-ae2b-4f7a-ac8e-6e2a819d18c2
Windows 10S first went live with the new Surface laptops. As far as I know, there is a long window for users to upgrade 10S to either 10 Home or Pro for free. After the long window expires, it can be upgraded for a cost.
Win 10 pro updates easy to disable, Task manager, services tab, open services, windows update right click chose properties start up type disabled, manual, automatic, cortana has been disabled as well thing was just annoying,
I have Win7 on a standalone system.
It works well, does everything I need it to do, and does it well.
Why do I need W10, again?
Disabled is only valid if the computer is not connected to any form of networking. Otherwise, set it for notification only and let me choose when to download and install.